swilow
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Ole uns here- sorry, didn't quite get to the 800 IGNVS :D
Blather away....
Blather away....
We Worship The Sun- All Hail Dionysius- PD Lodge Ov Kaos
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o_o
bluelight. you have failed me.
drug bingE?
Haircut?
i dont know what kind of rediculous irrational things i might do now!
i mean, what eles in someones life could make you so distraught as internet
things?
hmm?
oh dear, where is the archived thread. ive never gone this far. never been this baffled!
i dont even know how to utfse.
i know the picture posting thing is out of style, but, you seriously need to see what this has done to me...
i just grew five grey hairs
no, SIX!
this blather could go on all night. in fact, i might just compose 800 posts, or, edits rather, right here. right now.
edit# first time that i let you know im editing this post.
what do you all think of this idea, i got bored this afternoon and started imagining things:
a crowd of people spectate a vat of mud spanning the stage..
it bubbles under the blue lights
a figure!
a hand slowly emerges before another figures back, then head curl up out of the mud...
four figures, dripping chunks, flying sloth of grey, their hair matted in this matter, now stand before the audience.
large blobs of goo decend; fingers from the heavens undulate slowly. something is in them, and soon it be comes clear.
a mud man pulls out a guitar!
another a bass!
one assembles a set of drums
the mud hardens around their feet and the lights bake the mud, which as the notes begin to rise slowly crusts off their bodies...
oh and the night has just begun!
bluelight. you have failed me.
drug bingE?
Haircut?
i dont know what kind of rediculous irrational things i might do now!
i mean, what eles in someones life could make you so distraught as internet
things?
hmm?
oh dear, where is the archived thread. ive never gone this far. never been this baffled!
i dont even know how to utfse.
i know the picture posting thing is out of style, but, you seriously need to see what this has done to me...
i just grew five grey hairs
no, SIX!
this blather could go on all night. in fact, i might just compose 800 posts, or, edits rather, right here. right now.
edit# first time that i let you know im editing this post.
what do you all think of this idea, i got bored this afternoon and started imagining things:
a crowd of people spectate a vat of mud spanning the stage..
it bubbles under the blue lights
a figure!
a hand slowly emerges before another figures back, then head curl up out of the mud...
four figures, dripping chunks, flying sloth of grey, their hair matted in this matter, now stand before the audience.
large blobs of goo decend; fingers from the heavens undulate slowly. something is in them, and soon it be comes clear.
a mud man pulls out a guitar!
another a bass!
one assembles a set of drums
the mud hardens around their feet and the lights bake the mud, which as the notes begin to rise slowly crusts off their bodies...
oh and the night has just begun!
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PepperSocks
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Boooo 
Reposting my last post that got stuck at the end of the last thread:
Yeah, I tend to get into the psychedelic side of MDMA. MDA would be right up my alley. I swear one time I had MDMA/MDA combo pills. Wowzas, best trip ever. I wish I could go back 5 years and buy a shitload of those.
It was like MDMA but deeper, more ecstatic, more stimulation, and awesome CEVs. It had MDxx written all over it but it was definitely different and more intense than just MDMA. I was absolutely wrecked for a few days afterwards but it was worth it.
If I had both materials I'd totally make up my own combo pills.
Reposting my last post that got stuck at the end of the last thread:
Yeah, I tend to get into the psychedelic side of MDMA. MDA would be right up my alley. I swear one time I had MDMA/MDA combo pills. Wowzas, best trip ever. I wish I could go back 5 years and buy a shitload of those.
It was like MDMA but deeper, more ecstatic, more stimulation, and awesome CEVs. It had MDxx written all over it but it was definitely different and more intense than just MDMA. I was absolutely wrecked for a few days afterwards but it was worth it.
If I had both materials I'd totally make up my own combo pills.
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aparently a freind of mine has a connect for MMDA, anyone know anytihng about this?
oauh time to go to the pub pceouttt
oauh time to go to the pub pceouttt
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Flarestar89
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I wish we had lucy here. I'm sure it's around SOMEWHERE.
Ever feel that way? Like, all these drugs are probably within a 50 mile radius, but WHERE?!
One of my friends thinks I have a drug problem. I don't, she's just... not a drug user, and doesn't understand that using drugs doesn't mean you have a problem. I told her that yeah, sometimes I use tripping to help me sort through things... and she's like "YOU'RE USING DRUGS TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS!"Sigh.
Another friend thinks I trip too much. I trip maybe once a week or two, probably a week and a half on average. It's not TOO too much, but I've been meaning to cut back anyway.
Too many people lecturing me.
Ever feel that way? Like, all these drugs are probably within a 50 mile radius, but WHERE?!
One of my friends thinks I have a drug problem. I don't, she's just... not a drug user, and doesn't understand that using drugs doesn't mean you have a problem. I told her that yeah, sometimes I use tripping to help me sort through things... and she's like "YOU'RE USING DRUGS TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS!"Sigh.
Another friend thinks I trip too much. I trip maybe once a week or two, probably a week and a half on average. It's not TOO too much, but I've been meaning to cut back anyway.
Too many people lecturing me.
PepperSocks
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Chyeah man, MMDA is supposed to be really nice. Relaxing and reflective. Is known for producing those "brain movies". If I were you I'd jump on that find. It's a really rare one, you'll probably never get access to it again.
There's a PIHKAL entry on it and a few academic papers I've read on it's use in therapy before the mass schedulings of 1970. Do some searching; there's some good info floating around on it. Also F&B's had the priviledge to experience that one, might try asking him about it.
PepperSocks
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I wish we had lucy here. I'm sure it's around SOMEWHERE.
Ever feel that way? Like, all these drugs are probably within a 50 mile radius, but WHERE?!
One of my friends thinks I have a drug problem. I don't, she's just... not a drug user, and doesn't understand that using drugs doesn't mean you have a problem. I told her that yeah, sometimes I use tripping to help me sort through things... and she's like "YOU'RE USING DRUGS TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS!"Sigh.
Another friend thinks I trip too much. I trip maybe once a week or two, probably a week and a half on average. It's not TOO too much, but I've been meaning to cut back anyway.
Too many people lecturing me.
Yeah, I get that too. People think I'm "crazy" for doing the things that I do.
Some of my friends are of the mentality that any drug use is too much. I trip pretty much every weekend, sometimes I take breaks for a few weeks or so if I feel strung out and just don't feel like tripping. I NEVER EVER trip during the week, I can't imagine how people do this and go to work the next day. When I trip I'm up all night and going to work for 9am the next day is out of the question. I guess some people can though, I dunno.
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Flarestar89
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I know, that's the thing. I NEVER trip during the week, once and a while I'll trip on Sunday, but I'll start by noon.
One of my friends quite literally thinks I'm going to go crazy. I think some people have trouble realizing that not everyone is like them... it might be hard on HIM to trip as much as I do, but it's not hard on me.
Haha, the same friend who doesn't do drugs at all tripped with me ONCE. She's never done ANY other substance. I told her that she doesn't understand, because she got nothing out of her trip. (She has a strong and blinding faith in the Christian God, so... has nothing to question, to think about. very odd to trip with.), and she said, "Yeah, I got something out of it. I got that I should never do these drugs again!"
One of my friends quite literally thinks I'm going to go crazy. I think some people have trouble realizing that not everyone is like them... it might be hard on HIM to trip as much as I do, but it's not hard on me.
Haha, the same friend who doesn't do drugs at all tripped with me ONCE. She's never done ANY other substance. I told her that she doesn't understand, because she got nothing out of her trip. (She has a strong and blinding faith in the Christian God, so... has nothing to question, to think about. very odd to trip with.), and she said, "Yeah, I got something out of it. I got that I should never do these drugs again!"
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Hey Ya'll
Im in Ashville, NC headed out to Colorado tomorrow. Hope you all are well and keepin it funky
Rothbury should be fun. Who all i s going from PD again? Love and Lite to you all. Wont be around a computer for quite some time after this so any responses will probably not get read lolz so actually dont answer me MUAH! HI ALEX and Shamy and Xorky and Swillow and Roger and Ignvs and Leo and SKL and everyone! xoxox
Im in Ashville, NC headed out to Colorado tomorrow. Hope you all are well and keepin it funky
Rothbury should be fun. Who all i s going from PD again? Love and Lite to you all. Wont be around a computer for quite some time after this so any responses will probably not get read lolz so actually dont answer me MUAH! HI ALEX and Shamy and Xorky and Swillow and Roger and Ignvs and Leo and SKL and everyone! xoxox
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^ I know a few people who are not, shall we say, "drug-oriented", who had a singular psychedelic experience and didn't really know where to place it in any sort of a context, more so than "nothing to question." Being from a spiritual tradition that may emphasize received wisdom rather than immediate experience, the "radical-experience" nature of the psychedelic experience seems epistemologically invalid. To someone who operates from a different perspective, recieved revelation is the same. This isn't really a question of an "open mind", but rather, what your mind is open to ... but to a really hardened proponent of one or another view of how we construct "wisdom", experience, or epistemologically valid information, it might sound crazy...
But one doesn't need the drugs to experience the experience.
There was a young woman with whom I had a passing involvement who wasn't "drug oriented" in the least, she saw them all as bad, and needless to say, my involvement with them as problematic; actually, it was this involvement that lead to the dissolution of our involvement, if you will ... but I digress ... bottom line, she was very very very "turned on" in terms of the questioning mindset that says "who am I? what am I doing here in this body that is only temporal, with this consciousness that feels eternal and self-perpetuating" and so on, the same questions that I dissolved in lysergide, she used to paralyze herself with a certain existential anxiety ... so fast forward two or three years, and it was 9 AM, and I was on the phone with her on the tail end of an LSD experience and feeling the first tingles of the amphetamines I'd just taken to greet the sun and start in on my schoolwork. I'm talking about death, it's inevitability, and the fact that it's the only thing that can validate life. She's interested in more than a passing way, and somehow, she's not dismissive of it as all this acid-casualty drivel, and actually, she's totally on the same page. Anyhow, she's a philosophy major, and to make a long story short, apparently it wound up in her thesis or something. Or so I'm told. Tripping with her is on my agenda for things to do before I die, really ...
TL;DR - I dated this chick who didn't do LSD, but she might as well have. Blah blah blah epistemological validity. Diazepam and marijuana lead to TL;DR posts.
But one doesn't need the drugs to experience the experience.
There was a young woman with whom I had a passing involvement who wasn't "drug oriented" in the least, she saw them all as bad, and needless to say, my involvement with them as problematic; actually, it was this involvement that lead to the dissolution of our involvement, if you will ... but I digress ... bottom line, she was very very very "turned on" in terms of the questioning mindset that says "who am I? what am I doing here in this body that is only temporal, with this consciousness that feels eternal and self-perpetuating" and so on, the same questions that I dissolved in lysergide, she used to paralyze herself with a certain existential anxiety ... so fast forward two or three years, and it was 9 AM, and I was on the phone with her on the tail end of an LSD experience and feeling the first tingles of the amphetamines I'd just taken to greet the sun and start in on my schoolwork. I'm talking about death, it's inevitability, and the fact that it's the only thing that can validate life. She's interested in more than a passing way, and somehow, she's not dismissive of it as all this acid-casualty drivel, and actually, she's totally on the same page. Anyhow, she's a philosophy major, and to make a long story short, apparently it wound up in her thesis or something. Or so I'm told. Tripping with her is on my agenda for things to do before I die, really ...
TL;DR - I dated this chick who didn't do LSD, but she might as well have. Blah blah blah epistemological validity. Diazepam and marijuana lead to TL;DR posts.
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PepperSocks
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The people I know don't view alcohol as a drug and it's their main one. Some people smoke pot and do coke but that's where it ends.
I've tried tripping with people but they don't let it come. The can't let go of control so as soon as it starts to hit they start drinking to numb it out and just ride it out waiting for it to end and then they never touch it again. They'd rather get drunk than expand their conscioussness and get in touch with the finer things in life. Kinda sad.
I'm trying something new tonight. I've been dosing piracetam all day and just took a 3 gram dose 45 minutes ago and just now took 135mg of bk-MDMA. I'm trying to see if the piracetam gives it more empathogenic magic and makes its less dirty and jittery.
I've been tired and not feeling a 100% today. That 2C-B last night put me through my paces and I took some kratom during the comedown which makes me feel crappy the next day. Don't think I'll be doing that anymore. This tripping 2 days in a row is rough on me, but I wanted to try this out.
I've tried tripping with people but they don't let it come. The can't let go of control so as soon as it starts to hit they start drinking to numb it out and just ride it out waiting for it to end and then they never touch it again. They'd rather get drunk than expand their conscioussness and get in touch with the finer things in life. Kinda sad.
I'm trying something new tonight. I've been dosing piracetam all day and just took a 3 gram dose 45 minutes ago and just now took 135mg of bk-MDMA. I'm trying to see if the piracetam gives it more empathogenic magic and makes its less dirty and jittery.
I've been tired and not feeling a 100% today. That 2C-B last night put me through my paces and I took some kratom during the comedown which makes me feel crappy the next day. Don't think I'll be doing that anymore. This tripping 2 days in a row is rough on me, but I wanted to try this out.
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A friend smoked up a guy who had no psychedelic experience on a large dose of DMT, and apparently the other guy was clearly buggin', staring into space, eyes darting around, breathing heavily, etc., and kept saying "I dunno if I feel it ..."
something like that would be hard to understand even in the moment without any context or past experience. Makes me wonder what it was like for Hofmann on bicycle day, or the first MK-ULTRA experimentees (in a whorehouse no less!) or even or Leary & co. in the heyday of their original experiments. that's one of the reasons i dig The Psychedelic Experirence. although that effort owes more o Metzner than to Leary. it's one of the first serious looks at it's subject from what has become the prevailing perspective that the movement takes, i mean look at the idea of dose/set/setting ... this is totally forced into the paradigm in which we take in our experience, especially given that we can now communicate on the subject with others on the internet and have developed an entire vocabulary to do so as well as the dissemination of "trip reports" ... so you have to wonder, how much of the psychedelic experience really is context? cultural and otherwise?
something like that would be hard to understand even in the moment without any context or past experience. Makes me wonder what it was like for Hofmann on bicycle day, or the first MK-ULTRA experimentees (in a whorehouse no less!) or even or Leary & co. in the heyday of their original experiments. that's one of the reasons i dig The Psychedelic Experirence. although that effort owes more o Metzner than to Leary. it's one of the first serious looks at it's subject from what has become the prevailing perspective that the movement takes, i mean look at the idea of dose/set/setting ... this is totally forced into the paradigm in which we take in our experience, especially given that we can now communicate on the subject with others on the internet and have developed an entire vocabulary to do so as well as the dissemination of "trip reports" ... so you have to wonder, how much of the psychedelic experience really is context? cultural and otherwise?
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some notes on the past few months:
1. 5-meo-DMT is the most powerful psychedelic because it really doesn't do anything, but what it does in not-doing-anything is to open you up to what is already there, and wow. if psychedelics are to be seen as technology 5-MeO is the killer app. nature's killer app.
2. fuck you: alex gray, daniel pinchbeck, neurosoup, etc., all of the people who are fucking up the movement, fuck you scientology, fuck this strategy-of-tension war on drugs, fuck the media, fuck war, fuck politics, fuck it, fuck it, FUCK.
3. why are does my silver cold on the astral plane always get entangled with the same archetypical drama bomb of a woman and why do I always see it as different?
4. i'm comfortable at work these days. almost feel like a normal person. and when i do get out and chill with friends, i feel ... i dunno ... it's strange. i have to wonder about all this stuff they say about he who lives two lives is half a man and all that.
5. i don't even have the time or the inclination to trip anymore. but altered states of consciousness, like love, are always around you. for good or for ill. to explore my mind all i have to do is start with a single thought as a point of reference.
6. working 40+ at a regular person's job is awfully taxing. i remember when some of my friends joined the work force i used to wonder why they were hard to get in ouch with and never wanted to hang out. now i understand. and my friends are probably wondering the same thing.
1. 5-meo-DMT is the most powerful psychedelic because it really doesn't do anything, but what it does in not-doing-anything is to open you up to what is already there, and wow. if psychedelics are to be seen as technology 5-MeO is the killer app. nature's killer app.
2. fuck you: alex gray, daniel pinchbeck, neurosoup, etc., all of the people who are fucking up the movement, fuck you scientology, fuck this strategy-of-tension war on drugs, fuck the media, fuck war, fuck politics, fuck it, fuck it, FUCK.
3. why are does my silver cold on the astral plane always get entangled with the same archetypical drama bomb of a woman and why do I always see it as different?
4. i'm comfortable at work these days. almost feel like a normal person. and when i do get out and chill with friends, i feel ... i dunno ... it's strange. i have to wonder about all this stuff they say about he who lives two lives is half a man and all that.
5. i don't even have the time or the inclination to trip anymore. but altered states of consciousness, like love, are always around you. for good or for ill. to explore my mind all i have to do is start with a single thought as a point of reference.
6. working 40+ at a regular person's job is awfully taxing. i remember when some of my friends joined the work force i used to wonder why they were hard to get in ouch with and never wanted to hang out. now i understand. and my friends are probably wondering the same thing.
PepperSocks
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I concur. Well said. I haven't gone high dose because of a disconcerting effect I feel in my chest. I've been using at as a meditation aid at low smoked doses and the incredible things it doesn't do is hard to explain. Whole new level of lucidity.
Yup.
I feel that. I've gotten very into my work lately also. This 2 lives thing is getting weird for me. I feel I have to integrate my 2 halves to be true, otherwise I'm living a lie to either half I'm interacting with. My IRL social life is toast. I get along great with the people I work with while I'm at work but I could never "hang out" with them. At the same time the people i used to hang out with and drink with are stagnant in their ways and I don't like drinking and giving into the whole social conformity superficiality BS. My osychedleic consumption has also gone way up. I'm on cusp here, somethings going to happen over the next year or 2. It feel like it's going in positive direction though, just the middle ground can be a pain.
After work I just want to relax. I don't have much energy anymore to do the things i used to do. Kind of sucks. I spend my weekend nights tripping and I feel it helps me integrate the things I accumulate during the week. Unfortunately tripping takes a lot out of me and I spend sunday recouperating and go in Monday still quite drained and then the energy level starts to pick back up.
T+1 on this methylone. Hitting well. Kinda jittery as you can probably tell. Feels good in a way. Still no MDMA though. I feel like I'm really processing my thoughts, even moreso than the 2C-B last night. Going to listen to some music and maybe go outside for a bit
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What did Alex Grey do?
Yeah SKL, I'm a completely believer that you don't need drugs to think. I was tripped out before my drug use. More so, it was her mind, I suppose. But really, god was the answer to everything. (I think your post was in reference to mine, it didn't really reference the post it pointed to)
Shit. My shift key feels funny to press now. I'm debating plugging some 2ce... mmm..
Yeah SKL, I'm a completely believer that you don't need drugs to think. I was tripped out before my drug use. More so, it was her mind, I suppose. But really, god was the answer to everything. (I think your post was in reference to mine, it didn't really reference the post it pointed to)
Shit. My shift key feels funny to press now. I'm debating plugging some 2ce... mmm..
PepperSocks
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Going outside to smoke a bowl on my balcony and feel the wind and look at the stars.
Hoping the pot mellows out the jitter and brings on more mental euphoria.
Hoping the pot mellows out the jitter and brings on more mental euphoria.
The Winner!!
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Hi guys, bye guys
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Made a few interesting, pretty, and tripped out pictures, made probably one iconic, beautiful, and deeply meaningful picture, made a shitton of mediocre, banal, cliched, and overly structured although highly technically proficient "psychedelic art", threw a few cool parties, then proceeded to throw a bunch of sketchy parties that were the intersection of the worst of the worst of the detritus of the psychedelic movement in the northeast and the airiest and most banal of the new age movement in the same geographic area, until said parties drew excessive attention from law enforccement, whereupon he closed his studio slash "chapel" slash rave venue in favor of opening some sort of psychedelic Waco compound on a bunch of land upstate while simultaneously increasingly pushing himself and his wife as some sort of spiritual leaders rather than "merely" artists. To mix my Cult metaphors, break out the Kool Aid and cyanide, kids. In all seriousness though, he's another Tim Leary, in other words, a huge fucking liability.
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