*J*A*G*
Bluelighter
Disclaimer:.......Before i begin, i am not implying that i or anyone from this board has used drugs or has in the past this is just an article to imform the public, my information was derived from other articles, if anything here in is not correct i apologize, there were some areas that were my inturpretation and i also began with *in laymans terms* i used a lot of examples so others would get a better idea and understand easier
Had a bad trip lately? Hallucinating on your rolls? Get ahold of some really visual acid? Well, i may have figured out why and i would like to share it in layman’s terms. I have gathered information upon information about this and it is very scary. Some of the sentences or paragraphs I have added are not my own. Btw I am not a writer, ok? I am just trying to help. I wanted to make sure all the most important info was in this post. If you need more, do a search online.
Almost all of us have heard of PCP and special k. Not alot of us know what it is. PCP is an anesthetic, basically an older version of special k (ketamine) for example k is for cats (used on smaller animals, pcp is for elephants(used on larger animals).. Both are used on animals. K is used on small children. That might make you think that it is therefore ok for you. NO!!!! on the contrary.
PCP also known as angel dust, embalming fluid, formaldehyde, wet hog, squeeze, supergrass, killer weed, rocket fuel. wack, and space base (when mixed with crack).
Many things are laced with pcp to make it appear more potent, including but not limited to , weed, roll, acid, pcp may be sold as special k, or elephant k.
Insert……………..PCP and ketamine affect the cortex and the limbic system. Application rapidly brings on analgesia and amnesia. Lack of consciousness lasts 10 to 15 minutes after intravenous application, analgesia lasts 40 minutes, and amnesia can last 1 to 2 hours. Coming round again can take hours, and is sometimes accompanied by unpleasant dreams and hallucinations. Almost 50~ of the persons above 30 experience excitation/delirium or are bothered by visual hallucinations. This is much less common among children and young adults, which is why it is mainly used in child surgery.
in other words the older you are the worse your trip may be, so if your friends seem to get off a lot better they may be older, if your friends say it didn’t affect me that way, it again may be your age, and if you have never felt these effects that does not mean you havent taken the drug
Ketamine and PCP are being found in rolls, weed, and acid, it can be in a liquid form or powder, so it is easily put into anything. From what I understand as many as 50 % of pills, and the best ones, the ones that kick you ass, the ones everyone wants, those are most likely laced my friend.
We all know that mdma intensifies whatever you are on, like you never drink when you roll or you just superdrunk, same with acid you trip balls, but imagine intensifying the pcp or k by 10 times
Mdma uses up your seritonin well pcp an k prevent you from absorbing or making more seritonin. Notice you don’t roll anymore? This could be the problem.
Insert…………………Intracerebral pressure, intraocular pressure and cerebral circulation increase. The pharyngeal and laryngeal reflexes remain intact. The coughing reflex is repressed, bronchial resistance is reduced, bronchial spasms are suspended. There is little relaxation of the muscles, and muscular tension may increase, sometimes accompanied by purposeless movements. Metabolism increases. It has many sideeffects: bizarre and violent behavior, hallucinations, agitation, catatonic rigidity, disorientation, lack of coordination, nystagmus, hypersalivation, vomiting, convulsions, numbness, hypertension, tachycardia, cardiovascular depression is rare. Malign hyperpyrexia with rhabdomolysis resulting in collapse of the kidneys can occur.
Any of these things happen to you, what about days after you roll get a bad kidney infection??? Well that is a sure sign your rolls were laced
Article………….. PCP users usually start to feel the effects of the drug in 2 to 5 minutes when it is smoked, and 30 to 60 minutes when taken orally. The user usually peaks 15 to 30 minutes after smoking (one and a half - two and a half hours if taken orally) and stays high for 4 to 6 hours (smoking} 6 to 24 hours (oral). Effects are usually gone in 24 to 48 hours.
Sensation is dissociated, some people lose track of their bodies and do not feel pain. Illusions and delusions are common.
Anxiety and, sometimes, outright hostility may be present (especially if the person doesn't know that they have taken PCP). Disrobing in public is seen in a small percentage of people.
PCP intoxication may give the user feelings of superhuman strength and invulnerability resulting from the dissociative properties of the drug.
Phencyclidine users sometimes experience flashbacks, but unlike LSD flashbacks, which are psychological in origin, PCP after shocks are physically-based and involve actual drug effects. They can be brought on by drugs, stress, or fatigue and have been known to occur weeks or months after last use.
You can feel the flashbacks for weeks after taking pcp. Sometimes described as an electric feeling, a dizziness, you are fucked up all over again, this wave only lasts for a few moments but it can be quite scary.
You can lose all touch with reality for hours, remember mdma will intensify this affect along with your age, you will get amnesia, you may have psychotic behavior. You will feel an impending doom, ie think you are gonna get caught, or worse, think you are dying. It causes numbness throughout the limbs and may cause chest pains, making you believe you are having a heartattack.
Short-term Effects
Effects last 3 to 18 hours. It can produce a state of pleasurable intoxication, sense of separation from surroundings, perceptual distortions, difficulty in concentrating and communicating. Users may become highly confused, paranoid, terrified, aggressive, passive. Bad trips more common with PCP than with other drugs. Overdose can cause convulsions, coma, and death. Accidental death can result from drug-induced confusion.
Long-term Effects
Flashback may occur (see LSD). Persistent speech problems, depression, anxiety, or more severe psychological consequences.
If it sounds like this is something you got ahold of and are still feeling the aftereffects please relax you will get better, these affects usually last up to a week
i derived most of this information from the following resources......
these aree some of my resources:
pcp as a recreational drug
us dept. of justice/pcp
erowid.org/pcp vault
pcp and ketamine
END OF ARTICLE thank you
Stories and accounts………..
Ride on white train
I examined the pill in my hand. It was a small capsule filled with white powder. I had been told they were speed, but my source was very unreliable. He had found a bag of hundreds of these pills hid in the ceiling of his apartment. They had not been tested. I considered myself test subject number one. As I swallowed the pill, I wondered what was in store for me. I am a well-experimented drug user. I have eaten more than eight tabs of acid in one sitting and am not a lightweight. Yet throughout my numerous drug experiences, I have never stumbled upon a high like the one I received from PCP.
After a half hour to forty minutes, I began to something. As I walked down the hall and the stairs, I felt as if I were in a K hole. The stairs were my tunnel and I was burrowing through like a mole. I stumbled out the door and went into my neighbors house. He too took some and we stayed in his basement for a long time. In that basement, I felt a number of different feelings. I lost control of my body, almost as if I were on DXM, a drunk trippy sort of feeling. Yet at the same time, I was feeling a longing for affection. I wanted to be touched but I didn't want anyone to touch me. I went out to eat, yet found myself staring at a spot on the wall with my mouth hanging open. I was still there, but I didn't really have any control.
The following day, I decided to experiment again. This time, I took one orally and snorted another one. The kick was almost immediate. I was walking down a road, yet had no idea where I was going. I would find something familiar, but forget about it the moment I looked away. My two friends who were with me, one also on the drug and the other one sober, walked along with me, yet I didn't even know they were there. We stopped in a small bar that we had never been in and sat down on a couch near a pool table. The television was on. As I tried to watch I noticed that I couldn't see things clearly. My eyes felt lopsided on my face; one on my forehead, the other near my mouth. A big bowl of popcorn was sitting on the table. As I put a handful in my mouth, I felt my teeth crumble away. I couldn't remember how to swallow. After a few attempts, I finally choked the popcorn down. I turned to the television and as I watched the Simpsons, I floated around the room. I looked at anyone who entered the bar or walked by, my mouth hanging open, my head dangling from my neck. I went into the bathroom and looked in the mirror for a long time. I couldn't quite make out my face. I remembered that I had to pee. I sat down and stayed there for god knows how long. I couldn't remember what to do. I kept looking at the toilet paper in confusion. Finally I left the bathroom, although to this day I can't remember if I ever figured out what I was in there for.
I walked back to the couch, trying to find my way to comfort with my friends. I kept asking if we had been caught, if I was in trouble. I was so paranoid that we had been caught, that we were really in jail or that I was a teenager again getting caught by my parents. Every cigarette I smoked made me feel higher. I didn't dare take a bong hit. After we left the bar I went back to my house. I sat in my room alone, contemplating all the things I could do. I kept feeling that I was free, while at the same time I felt that I was caught. Outrageous thoughts would cross my mind. I kept talking myself in and out of them. Finally I think I fell asleep, although I may have been awake and unaware of reality. I woke up feeling like shit and wondering what the hell the mystery drug was. Even though I had hated every moment of it while on it, I had the urge to try it again. I had never been as high as I was on the mystery drug and I don't think I ever want to be again. We had nicknamed it 'white train' because it was white and it hit you like a train. Later, when my friend had been busted for dealing, we found out that it was PCP--- a drug I will never touch again.
*Don’t*
After a few drinks, I went downtown to the dance clubs with friends. An hour was enough for me... I've never been into the dance club scene... so I decided to walk home. My town is a hippy town, and I decided to buy a joint to entertain me for the walk home. I approached the nearest cluster of hippie-kids to buy a joint, and a girl offered me some PCP. Stupid mistake number one. The only thing I'd heard about PCP was from an aquaintance who was a jail-guard in the Canadian prairies... told me of a guy who was on PCP in one of the cells and said he'd rip his eye-ball out if someone didn't give him a smoke... nobody gave him a smoke... enough said...
So I bought a dose... it was cheap enough... and I walked a few blocks to a 19th century graveyard. I settled down against an old tombstone, and tried to figure out how to do the chunky white powder. I didn't have any rollies, so I sniffed it. Mistake number two.
Everything after that is a blur. I have only two recollections from there on. The first was a car stopping and two guys getting out asking, 'Dude, are you alright'. I seem to remember they were cops, but if they were, I would have been hauled into the station. My second memory is being in a grove of trees, and thoroughly believing they were people. It was quite a paradox, knowing they were trees but believing they were entities.. I think I was talking to them... How I got to those two locations is a mystery. How I got home safely is even more of a mystery.
I remember a severe dissociative state, and that's about it. I guess you could call it a black-out. My only advice is to avoid PCP like the plague. I could have done anything on that drug, and not remember it. It robbed me of my judgement,memory, and free will. It is, therefore, a very dangerous drug.
*Crazy PCP*
It was a friday night I was at a friends house and we were all smoking weed and I had about three bowls before a friend arrived with some pcp. I was the only one who bought some. Later that night we were smoking more weed and I threw the pcp in my pipe with some weed and smoked it.
when I was done maybe 20 minutes later I began to yell very loud at every one for no reason then I uncontrollably began to swing my arms. then my friend began to complain that if I did not calm down I would have to leave and at about this point I dont remember anything. after the experience was over my friends reported that I had lost my mind, they said that I was punching holes in the doors around his house which I later saw and that I was trying to rip a toilet from the ground wich unbeilevably I did almost succeed before I began to calm down a little bit.After it was all over I could not beileve what I had done my knuckles were scabed and very sore the next day and I never in my life had been this violent or careless and I remember that I could not control what I was doing nor could anyone else cause they had been too scared. All that I know is that I will never do pcp again for me it was too scarey yet weird of an experience to enjoy.
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*J*A*G*- Just A Girl
[This message has been edited by *J*A*G* (edited 22 May 2001).]
Had a bad trip lately? Hallucinating on your rolls? Get ahold of some really visual acid? Well, i may have figured out why and i would like to share it in layman’s terms. I have gathered information upon information about this and it is very scary. Some of the sentences or paragraphs I have added are not my own. Btw I am not a writer, ok? I am just trying to help. I wanted to make sure all the most important info was in this post. If you need more, do a search online.
Almost all of us have heard of PCP and special k. Not alot of us know what it is. PCP is an anesthetic, basically an older version of special k (ketamine) for example k is for cats (used on smaller animals, pcp is for elephants(used on larger animals).. Both are used on animals. K is used on small children. That might make you think that it is therefore ok for you. NO!!!! on the contrary.
PCP also known as angel dust, embalming fluid, formaldehyde, wet hog, squeeze, supergrass, killer weed, rocket fuel. wack, and space base (when mixed with crack).
Many things are laced with pcp to make it appear more potent, including but not limited to , weed, roll, acid, pcp may be sold as special k, or elephant k.
Insert……………..PCP and ketamine affect the cortex and the limbic system. Application rapidly brings on analgesia and amnesia. Lack of consciousness lasts 10 to 15 minutes after intravenous application, analgesia lasts 40 minutes, and amnesia can last 1 to 2 hours. Coming round again can take hours, and is sometimes accompanied by unpleasant dreams and hallucinations. Almost 50~ of the persons above 30 experience excitation/delirium or are bothered by visual hallucinations. This is much less common among children and young adults, which is why it is mainly used in child surgery.
in other words the older you are the worse your trip may be, so if your friends seem to get off a lot better they may be older, if your friends say it didn’t affect me that way, it again may be your age, and if you have never felt these effects that does not mean you havent taken the drug
Ketamine and PCP are being found in rolls, weed, and acid, it can be in a liquid form or powder, so it is easily put into anything. From what I understand as many as 50 % of pills, and the best ones, the ones that kick you ass, the ones everyone wants, those are most likely laced my friend.
We all know that mdma intensifies whatever you are on, like you never drink when you roll or you just superdrunk, same with acid you trip balls, but imagine intensifying the pcp or k by 10 times
Mdma uses up your seritonin well pcp an k prevent you from absorbing or making more seritonin. Notice you don’t roll anymore? This could be the problem.
Insert…………………Intracerebral pressure, intraocular pressure and cerebral circulation increase. The pharyngeal and laryngeal reflexes remain intact. The coughing reflex is repressed, bronchial resistance is reduced, bronchial spasms are suspended. There is little relaxation of the muscles, and muscular tension may increase, sometimes accompanied by purposeless movements. Metabolism increases. It has many sideeffects: bizarre and violent behavior, hallucinations, agitation, catatonic rigidity, disorientation, lack of coordination, nystagmus, hypersalivation, vomiting, convulsions, numbness, hypertension, tachycardia, cardiovascular depression is rare. Malign hyperpyrexia with rhabdomolysis resulting in collapse of the kidneys can occur.
Any of these things happen to you, what about days after you roll get a bad kidney infection??? Well that is a sure sign your rolls were laced
Article………….. PCP users usually start to feel the effects of the drug in 2 to 5 minutes when it is smoked, and 30 to 60 minutes when taken orally. The user usually peaks 15 to 30 minutes after smoking (one and a half - two and a half hours if taken orally) and stays high for 4 to 6 hours (smoking} 6 to 24 hours (oral). Effects are usually gone in 24 to 48 hours.
Sensation is dissociated, some people lose track of their bodies and do not feel pain. Illusions and delusions are common.
Anxiety and, sometimes, outright hostility may be present (especially if the person doesn't know that they have taken PCP). Disrobing in public is seen in a small percentage of people.
PCP intoxication may give the user feelings of superhuman strength and invulnerability resulting from the dissociative properties of the drug.
Phencyclidine users sometimes experience flashbacks, but unlike LSD flashbacks, which are psychological in origin, PCP after shocks are physically-based and involve actual drug effects. They can be brought on by drugs, stress, or fatigue and have been known to occur weeks or months after last use.
You can feel the flashbacks for weeks after taking pcp. Sometimes described as an electric feeling, a dizziness, you are fucked up all over again, this wave only lasts for a few moments but it can be quite scary.
You can lose all touch with reality for hours, remember mdma will intensify this affect along with your age, you will get amnesia, you may have psychotic behavior. You will feel an impending doom, ie think you are gonna get caught, or worse, think you are dying. It causes numbness throughout the limbs and may cause chest pains, making you believe you are having a heartattack.
Short-term Effects
Effects last 3 to 18 hours. It can produce a state of pleasurable intoxication, sense of separation from surroundings, perceptual distortions, difficulty in concentrating and communicating. Users may become highly confused, paranoid, terrified, aggressive, passive. Bad trips more common with PCP than with other drugs. Overdose can cause convulsions, coma, and death. Accidental death can result from drug-induced confusion.
Long-term Effects
Flashback may occur (see LSD). Persistent speech problems, depression, anxiety, or more severe psychological consequences.
If it sounds like this is something you got ahold of and are still feeling the aftereffects please relax you will get better, these affects usually last up to a week
i derived most of this information from the following resources......
these aree some of my resources:
pcp as a recreational drug
us dept. of justice/pcp
erowid.org/pcp vault
pcp and ketamine
END OF ARTICLE thank you
Stories and accounts………..
Ride on white train
I examined the pill in my hand. It was a small capsule filled with white powder. I had been told they were speed, but my source was very unreliable. He had found a bag of hundreds of these pills hid in the ceiling of his apartment. They had not been tested. I considered myself test subject number one. As I swallowed the pill, I wondered what was in store for me. I am a well-experimented drug user. I have eaten more than eight tabs of acid in one sitting and am not a lightweight. Yet throughout my numerous drug experiences, I have never stumbled upon a high like the one I received from PCP.
After a half hour to forty minutes, I began to something. As I walked down the hall and the stairs, I felt as if I were in a K hole. The stairs were my tunnel and I was burrowing through like a mole. I stumbled out the door and went into my neighbors house. He too took some and we stayed in his basement for a long time. In that basement, I felt a number of different feelings. I lost control of my body, almost as if I were on DXM, a drunk trippy sort of feeling. Yet at the same time, I was feeling a longing for affection. I wanted to be touched but I didn't want anyone to touch me. I went out to eat, yet found myself staring at a spot on the wall with my mouth hanging open. I was still there, but I didn't really have any control.
The following day, I decided to experiment again. This time, I took one orally and snorted another one. The kick was almost immediate. I was walking down a road, yet had no idea where I was going. I would find something familiar, but forget about it the moment I looked away. My two friends who were with me, one also on the drug and the other one sober, walked along with me, yet I didn't even know they were there. We stopped in a small bar that we had never been in and sat down on a couch near a pool table. The television was on. As I tried to watch I noticed that I couldn't see things clearly. My eyes felt lopsided on my face; one on my forehead, the other near my mouth. A big bowl of popcorn was sitting on the table. As I put a handful in my mouth, I felt my teeth crumble away. I couldn't remember how to swallow. After a few attempts, I finally choked the popcorn down. I turned to the television and as I watched the Simpsons, I floated around the room. I looked at anyone who entered the bar or walked by, my mouth hanging open, my head dangling from my neck. I went into the bathroom and looked in the mirror for a long time. I couldn't quite make out my face. I remembered that I had to pee. I sat down and stayed there for god knows how long. I couldn't remember what to do. I kept looking at the toilet paper in confusion. Finally I left the bathroom, although to this day I can't remember if I ever figured out what I was in there for.
I walked back to the couch, trying to find my way to comfort with my friends. I kept asking if we had been caught, if I was in trouble. I was so paranoid that we had been caught, that we were really in jail or that I was a teenager again getting caught by my parents. Every cigarette I smoked made me feel higher. I didn't dare take a bong hit. After we left the bar I went back to my house. I sat in my room alone, contemplating all the things I could do. I kept feeling that I was free, while at the same time I felt that I was caught. Outrageous thoughts would cross my mind. I kept talking myself in and out of them. Finally I think I fell asleep, although I may have been awake and unaware of reality. I woke up feeling like shit and wondering what the hell the mystery drug was. Even though I had hated every moment of it while on it, I had the urge to try it again. I had never been as high as I was on the mystery drug and I don't think I ever want to be again. We had nicknamed it 'white train' because it was white and it hit you like a train. Later, when my friend had been busted for dealing, we found out that it was PCP--- a drug I will never touch again.
*Don’t*
After a few drinks, I went downtown to the dance clubs with friends. An hour was enough for me... I've never been into the dance club scene... so I decided to walk home. My town is a hippy town, and I decided to buy a joint to entertain me for the walk home. I approached the nearest cluster of hippie-kids to buy a joint, and a girl offered me some PCP. Stupid mistake number one. The only thing I'd heard about PCP was from an aquaintance who was a jail-guard in the Canadian prairies... told me of a guy who was on PCP in one of the cells and said he'd rip his eye-ball out if someone didn't give him a smoke... nobody gave him a smoke... enough said...
So I bought a dose... it was cheap enough... and I walked a few blocks to a 19th century graveyard. I settled down against an old tombstone, and tried to figure out how to do the chunky white powder. I didn't have any rollies, so I sniffed it. Mistake number two.
Everything after that is a blur. I have only two recollections from there on. The first was a car stopping and two guys getting out asking, 'Dude, are you alright'. I seem to remember they were cops, but if they were, I would have been hauled into the station. My second memory is being in a grove of trees, and thoroughly believing they were people. It was quite a paradox, knowing they were trees but believing they were entities.. I think I was talking to them... How I got to those two locations is a mystery. How I got home safely is even more of a mystery.
I remember a severe dissociative state, and that's about it. I guess you could call it a black-out. My only advice is to avoid PCP like the plague. I could have done anything on that drug, and not remember it. It robbed me of my judgement,memory, and free will. It is, therefore, a very dangerous drug.
*Crazy PCP*
It was a friday night I was at a friends house and we were all smoking weed and I had about three bowls before a friend arrived with some pcp. I was the only one who bought some. Later that night we were smoking more weed and I threw the pcp in my pipe with some weed and smoked it.
when I was done maybe 20 minutes later I began to yell very loud at every one for no reason then I uncontrollably began to swing my arms. then my friend began to complain that if I did not calm down I would have to leave and at about this point I dont remember anything. after the experience was over my friends reported that I had lost my mind, they said that I was punching holes in the doors around his house which I later saw and that I was trying to rip a toilet from the ground wich unbeilevably I did almost succeed before I began to calm down a little bit.After it was all over I could not beileve what I had done my knuckles were scabed and very sore the next day and I never in my life had been this violent or careless and I remember that I could not control what I was doing nor could anyone else cause they had been too scared. All that I know is that I will never do pcp again for me it was too scarey yet weird of an experience to enjoy.
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*J*A*G*- Just A Girl
[This message has been edited by *J*A*G* (edited 22 May 2001).]
