Stimulants Want to clean my house! Advice on whether or not to split up an Adderall XR capsule?

[Larry Million]

Hey guys! Long time reader, first time poster.

I'm prescribed Adderall XR 30mg, and it's my second month of testing it out to determine my dosage. Normally, the only time the 30mg has any effect is when I take it on a completely empty stomach, otherwise it's as if nothing happens. Last weekend, I accidentally (really, accidentally) took a second capsule halfway through the day, and the effect was very noticeable. Felt like the Adderall actually worked for once--you know, a slight sense of euphoria, some chattiness, all that stuff.

I mentioned this to my therapist last week, who suggested I call my pdoc to let him know since I'm not scheduled to see him until later next month. No response yet, so I'll try again tomorrow. The end goal for me would be to switch to IR for more flexibility.

Today, I took 30mg in the morning on a mostly empty stomach with not much of an effect. I took another 30mg around 11:30 AM. Effect was somewhat noticeable at first, but nothing extraordinary. No big deal. Seems to have petered out a bit.

But now, it's a boring Sunday afternoon (2:30 PM now), I'm bored as hell, and I really want to clean my apartment. I've got no motivation to do so. I've never had that "CLEAN ALL THE THINGS" experience on Adderall, and I kinda want to have it now! Honestly, I'm not one for abusing my prescription, but I'm curious and have nothing better to do, so I'm considering opening a capsule and taking half of it. (I figure an entire third 30mg capsule would be asking for trouble.)

Any significant downside to doing this? Should I just enjoy what few effects are still working?

 

[Larry Million]

I went ahead with it. It's only 4 PM, but I was concerned I'd lose sleep if I took it any later. Sorry, guys, I know I asked for advice, but I didn't consider the timing at all.

I intended to just swallow half the beads, but I was reading the forum while I waited for replies, and ultimately decided that crushing them might work better for me. I crushed half of the beads and took those, and I'm leaving the other half for another time. This was maybe fifteen minutes ago. Let's see what happens!

 

[Cuhpcakes]

Sorry to respond so late, seems like you already dosed..

Many would argue and say it's better to take amphetamines when you need to get work done, but I disagree.

I recommend taking any drug recreationally only when you're in a calm and worry free state. Basically after all your burdens are lifted, after you've finished cleaning your apartment. That way you can fully appreciate the experience.

Do you know the dangers of abusing amphetamines? Tolerance and addiction are the least of your worries.

 

[coelophysis]

Do you know the dangers of abusing amphetamines?

But do you know the wonders of cleaning while on amphetamines?

 

[Larry Million]

So, this is Adderall when it works, eh? This is really quite lovely.

My mind feels clear, and I've got a comfortable amount of energy. I haven't even tried to clean my apartment, but I'm getting everything else done and then some. I'm even planning for my morning tomorrow. This is the kind of thing I always plan to do and try to do, but it never happens and I lose track. Naturally, this is rather nice.

Is this all because I crushed the beads? I just can't imagine a redose of XR having this kind of effect.

I recommend taking any drug recreationally only when you're in a calm and worry free state. Basically after all your burdens are lifted, after you've finished cleaning your apartment. That way you can fully appreciate the experience.

One of the pains of ADHD is having a million of those burdens, but no way to tackle them. That's why this feels so great! A weight is lifted and I can do what I need to do without the guilt and shame of all of those burdens still being untouched.

Still, I can appreciate the sentiment! I'll have to give it a shot sometime.

But do you know the wonders of cleaning with on amphetamines?

Or paying bills!

Only downside is I've spent way, way too long typing and re-typing this post...

 

[Cuhpcakes]

But do you know the wonders of cleaning with on amphetamines?

Nope, the only amphetamines I've tried are MDMA and cocaine if you even consider them to fall under that catagory. They were taken with friends, not to do chores.

Not sure I would use any amphetamines again, the adverse effects aren't worth it. I'm also against psyche meds, they just prolong the problem and create new ones. Only you can delete your psychological complications.

If you take them at pharmaceutical doses you should be fine. Overdosing is a different story.

Enjoy your serotonin burst Larry.

 

[coelophysis]

Amphetamines are a lot different from MDMA and other stimulant party drugs. They're much more functional.
And it would be more like dopamine bursts than serotonin bursts...

 

[Cuhpcakes]

Amphetamines are a lot different from MDMA and other stimulant party drugs. They're much more functional.
And it would be more like dopamine bursts than serotonin bursts...

Were the dots really necessary? I'll admit I'm ignorant of amphetamines.

I know MDMA releases excessive amounts of serotonin.

Do amphetamines release any serotonin at all? It just seems to make sense because serotonin is our "motivation and accomplishment" neuron. While dopamine is our "fight or flight" chemical.

 

[Larry Million]

The feeling is actually beginning to go away. I'm going to guess it'll fade completely in about an hour. So, four hours of noticeable effects on about 15mg? That seems pretty reasonable. Honestly, I felt that more than any dose of XR I've ever had. It actually affected me in a very obvious way.

I don't want to jump to conclusions about this, so I'd really like to know: Is this all because I crushed the beads?

I really don't think 15mg would have affected me like this if it was extended release. But remember, tonight was technically a re-dose. I'm not sure if that changes things or not.

 

[Cuhpcakes]

Jist keep your doses low so your tolerance won't suffer too much.

Drugs are random some times, unique to everyone. Just appreciate you felt euphoric on such a low dose, don't question it. :D

 

[coelophysis]

Were the dots really necessary?



Do amphetamines release any serotonin at all? It just seems to make sense because serotonin is our "motivation and accomplishment" neuron. While dopamine is our "fight or flight" chemical.

a) Sure, why not?

b) Indeed amphet works a wee bit on our serotonin receptors. But serotonin is not a neuron, it's a neurotransmitter. Dopamine is more of the motivation and accomplishment or reward chemical. Serotonin functions on a whole slew of things.

 

[Larry Million]

Jist keep your doses low so your tolerance won't suffer too much.

Drugs are random some times, unique to everyone. Just appreciate you felt euphoric on such a low dose, don't question it. :D

Oh, I'm actually asking for a functional reason! Earlier I mentioned that I was going to see about switching to IR. If crushing an XR capsule really does make it behave like IR, that could help me figure out if I really do need to switch. Or better yet, it may NOT work and it'll save me time deciding to try something else entirely.

I'll try this again tomorrow, only I won't exceed my prescribed dose. So, instead of my ineffective 30mg in the morning, I'll split it into two crushed 15mg doses. One for the morning, one for the afternoon. Seems reasonable to me.

 

[piller97]

But do you know the wonders of cleaning while on amphetamines?

Had to "LOL" at the relatability(don't think thats a word) of this statement.


As far as XR vs IR id have to say that in my experience(been prescribed adderall{in multiple forms} for many years) that as a general rule XRs tend to have more of an impact on me when taken alone. However the most effective thing I've found was to take an XR in the morning, then an IR(or 2) later during the day, i find this method to deliver the most noticeable impact with the least dosage

 

[Cuhpcakes]

Caffeine also gives a boost of energy and motivation.