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Stimulants Vyvanse/Precscription stimulants causing depersonalization

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Lemme apologize in advance if this topic has discussed before. I couldn't find any alternative resources for more information on this matter, and I'm very desperate. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Background info:
For the past two years, I've been taking amphetamines to help me concentrate with school work. The first year was recreational, with no noticeable signs of mental/psychological deterioration. During this time, I was enrolled in college but with no real direction or major. Following the first couple uses, the amps seemed to "stimulate" me in the right direction. I finally chose a major, and got A's and B's in courses that I flunked before. Following this, I decided to visit a psych doc for the possibility of obtaining my own prescription. I didn't intend on conning the doc or over-exaggerate my symptoms. I simply gave him a brief overview of my academic history, which actually do resemble behaviors associated with legitimate Adult ADD. The possibility of obtaining a prescription stimulant was a hit/miss thing for me, but within six months I finally received a script for adderall.

From this point on, the only positive impact was on academics, which is why its so difficult to stop. It seems as though when I crossed the line from recreational user to frequent user, I stopped feeling like myself even after short-term abstinence's. I never had severe issues with anxiety or OCD, but they now seem to be out of control and worse than ever. The most I would take is 60mg Vyvanse, sometimes 90mg, but not everyday. Also, this doesn't just occur during the come-down, these symptoms persist for days.

Is there way to counteract this? The only benzo I have is temazepam, would that eliminate the side effects while maintaining the positive effects, even though its a hypnotic?

Another route I was considering is a long-term abstinence. If anyone has experience on kickin the habit, is full recovery possible? How long will it take to feel normal again?
 
My stimulant-experienced pet llama snuck into my bedroom and read this post. Feeling sympathy for the poster, he proceeded to type the following message:

"I know the feeling. Stimulants really tend to do that, especially in the long-term scenario. There's really no telling exactly how long you will be feeling depersonalization or that "out of body" feeling, however, there is one certainty in this situation: The more stimulants you ingest, the longer the mental recovery and the more intense the depersonalization.

From a personal standpoint, I learned to embrace derealization/depersonalization. I honestly don't mind that "third person camera" viewpoint, and I don't consider it necessarily a problem; just a different state of mind. I am 99% sure that it is not, nor ever be, a permanent state. So if that's a worry, I would say focus on the embracing of this new state of consciousness and keep up those nice grades. If you cannot, then I would strongly consider taking an extended break from drugs in general. No pot even, that shit can be equally dissociating when abused (if you're a true tweaker, you probably don't like the herb anyway ;D)

How have you been sleeping over the course of the last couple years? Any different than before you got the prescription? How about more recently? Lack of sleep, not even necessarily "deprivation", can really exacerbate depersonalization.

As for the benzo, I wouldn't use it for general anxiety and depersonalization. It's too habit forming. I'd limit it to severe panic and anxiety attacks as well as the end of bigger-than-average binges with insomnia. But that's just me.

Good luck, and if you have any other questions or just want to talk, shoot me a PM.
Irony's Llama"
 
Don't get hooked on benzos. You will end up getting far worse depersonalization and derealization from them when they stop working.

Check into the use of various nootropics (ask around and do your own research). Piracetam and phenibut come to mind. Watch it with the phenibut though, as you're not supposed to use it more than once or twice every couple of weeks, due to worse tolerance issues than with benzos even, but I find it actually greatly improves cognition, as well as chills you out, UNLIKE benzos, which just chill you out.

Aside from that, possibly look into Strattera instead of using amps so often. If Strattera works on the daily for you, you will not even desire to take amps as often.
 
Thanx for the replies so far. I've decided to take a long-term break from amps. The only concern I have is whether Vyvanse or any other regular amphetamine causes the same extent of neurotoxicity as methamphetamine. I've done a lot of research on meth, as well as memoirs written by former addicts, and I found that meth causes permanent changes in brain chemistry that can take up to 18 months to reverse. I told myself I would never go down that road of stimulant addiction, however, I justified my use of amps from the excuse that since prescription stimulants are given to children as young as 6, it can't be all that bad. If anyone has any experience with both regular amp and methamp, are the effects on brain chemistry the same?
 
Are you saying that you actually see your body from another viewpoint?
I get super irritated/depressed after vyvanse/adderall. If that's what you mean. it's awful. It's the worst side effect of any drug I've ever had.
 
If you feel like you are having a lot of bad side effects from the drugs you should stop using them. I recently started taking piracetam and it works wonders for me. I don't know how it will be for you since everyone is different, but give piracetam a try. *snip* I started out taking 3 grams at a time 2 times a day and now I lowered down to 2 grams at a time 2 times per day. My mind feels sharp again kind of like it used to be and I just feel better. I like being clear headed and I feel more motivated now.
 
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