Volunteers take speed to test drug-driving devices

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Volunteers take speed to test drug-driving devices

By Susan Brown
July 18, 2004

Researchers at Swinburne University are paying volunteers to take methamphetamine, or speed, to test roadside drug-testing equipment that police hope to be using by the end of the year.

Trials are being held to determine the accuracy of four different brands of drug-testing machines. Cannabis trials started last year.

Victoria Police have had the power to randomly test motorists for drugs since the start of the month, but tests will not begin until perhaps the end of the year because of a delay in finding suitable technology.

Katherine Papafotiou, co-ordinator of the drugs and driving unit at Swinburne University, said last week that up to 10 devices were being tested.

The devices all test for active metabolytes, or recent drug use, using a saliva sample, but there are differences with some, including a "chewing" option designed to counter dry mouth, a side-effect of recreational drug use.

Dr Papafotiou has sent preliminary data to Professor Philip Swan at VicRoads, and expects to have a "concrete" recommendation for at least one device within two months.

Between 20 and 40 people are paid an average of $50 a session to take speed or cannabis. Potential volunteers are screened for psychiatric illnesses, and "individuals have to have consumed amphetamines before so we are not introducing them to a new substance".

Drugs are purchased in their purest form and inserted into capsules. "Initially we started with quite low doses," Dr Papafotiou said, but participants were not sure they felt much different. Doses were increased and "we are very confident at this stage we are administering doses that would be consumed recreationally".

Participants provide saliva and blood, and in some cases complete driving simulation tests. They leave after five hours. Some are checked again the next day. Human testing of illegal drugs would not have been allowed a decade ago, says Professor Olaf Drummer, of the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine based at Monash University.

He said the Swinburne research was important because "we now know what a certain dose can do". It was also needed to ensure the police testing devices worked accurately, thus reducing potential arguments in court.

Motorists will not be prosecuted for a positive result at the roadside unless a laboratory confirms the sample result. The new law is the first in the world to allow random drug testing - now limited to speed and cannabis - without cause

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hmm.. it sounds like they are administering the cannabis orally.. is it just thc they are giving? if so they arent doing very good research imo. and i doubt many speed users take their shit orally too
 
fruitfly said:
They're PAYING people to take speed or smoke pot? Shit, where do I sign up?




Yeah definetly sign me up for that. I would love to get paid to smoke pot.=D :D ;)
 
hashish2020 said:
I would think tweak would make ppl drive better.

It does seem extremely hypocritical to me that you can get a DUI for driving around on speed, yet the military has no problem giving it to pilots to fly aircraft around blowing shit up for 24 hr periods.
 
Those doses sound way off a recreational one imo, 5mg d-amphetamine is a lot different to 100mg methamphetamine. When I applied for my Provisional license, I mentioned I had ADD and took dex (I wouldnt have mentioned it if I knew all the fuck around it would cause me) and they denied me my P's, saying I had to get a note from my doctor saying it was ok for me to drive on the medication. So I went and got this, and then eventually got my P's. My doctor didnt seem to think dex would affect my driving ... and with my dose being 6 x 5mg throughout the day (a relatively high dose) I dont find I get any tunnel vision, or tendencies to risk death by running red lights ... and its 50km from my house to my school so I've got to be concentrating for a fairly long time. It seems to me like the government just wants to fuck over as many drug users as they can by setting their standard dose that impaires your driving ability extremely low. This does make me wonder though, if you are actually prescribed amphetmines will you be allowed to drive on them?
 
pa.. said:
It does seem extremely hypocritical to me that you can get a DUI for driving around on speed, yet the military has no problem giving it to pilots to fly aircraft around blowing shit up for 24 hr periods.

Good point!!
 
You got to remember though... the tweakers that are causing the real danger on the roads are the ones having 200 - 300mg+ hits at a time, up to half a gram sometimes...

Fast foward a few days and 15 - 20 hits and you're a threat to a lot of people.

If somebody is driving dangerously because they've ingested too much drugs, then their driving behavior ought to be enough to arrest and convict them! Instead of testing people roadside, I believe law enforcement should be looking for people driving erratically! One person with good driving skills on a moderate dose of some recreational substance may be 10x safer than another person has poor driving skills and is straight but. This is all just part of the irrational prohibition on recreational drugs. It's got very little to do with making the roads safer.
 
pa.. said:
It does seem extremely hypocritical to me that you can get a DUI for driving around on speed, yet the military has no problem giving it to pilots to fly aircraft around blowing shit up for 24 hr periods.


The military has no problems giving people rocket launchers to blow shit up with, but I doubt you could get away with that in civillian society.
 
Jimity said:
The military has no problems giving people rocket launchers to blow shit up with, but I doubt you could get away with that in civillian society.

The point, which you missed completely, isn't the fact that they are given weapons while on speed, (by speed I'm refering to amphetamines chubba75, it's the fact that I could pop a dexedrine tablet and get a DUI driving a car, and the same government will give the same pill to someone to fly a jet.
 
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