Vicious Combinations

Specterchild

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Ill keep it deadly simple - Im on Suboxone, Wellbutrin, Vyvance, Diphenhydramine, and Clonidine. Im a recovering (iv)heroin(tar) user(2yrs).

The problem is that every afternoon im compelled too have some alcohol. And at this point i can drink three bottles of wine without even loosing my cool. Im not trying to brag in any shape or form..... it really sux having to drink 15 beers to get a good buzz.

lemme know what you think
 
Well as of lately my doc is pretty much leaving that up to me... If i listened to The AA tribe, I'd be in recovery for the rest of my life....
 
having been through a year long AA rehab program i chose not to believe that part of the doctrine. There are some good things to it though...step 4 and just being able to talk to someone are just a few of the good things that come off the top of my head.

So back to what your doctor says. You can just be on suboxone and all that other crap untill you feel you want to get off it?
 
i really don't think OD is the place for this. i'm going to leave it in the hands of the TDS folks. you'll get some support over there.

Other Drugs is designed for discussion on drugs.
 
So what do you do when you drink? How many hours/day is effected by Alcohol ?

Sometimes a simple rational approach is best. I've experienced AA, and (IMHO) is good for 2 things:

a) something to DO
b) catch phrases i.e.) "move a muscle change a thought."

LMK what you think
 
What is your goal here...do you want to eliminate your drinking? Reduce it to more moderate levels?

There is a group Moderation Management at http://www.moderation.org/ that deals with reducing drinking to less harmful levels, maybe that will be of interest to you.

And good job on getting off the heroin, just be cautious of replacing it with alcohol.
 
I can relate to you in the sense that I used to take a ton of different drugs at the same time, daily, or semi-daily if we're talking about larger doses. For me it was marijuana, alcohol, zopiclone, lorazepam, diphenhydramine, tobacco, dexedrine and 5-htp. When I took 5-HTP I would go easy on the alcohol, and when I took dexedrine I would try to get fucked up afterward rather than all day. But if I didn't mess myself up in the daytime, it would just come back in the evening, I'd cram every downer in there until hallucinations and blackout.

I also agree (with) and relate to your beer problem. I have had mild tolerance issues with alcohol, but zopiclone and lorazepam were terrible. I could take 5 of each and feel almost nothing, 10 of each and just get a mild benzo stone. I had actually weened off them, to no zopiclone and just 1-3 lorazepam a night. Then last night I took 3 lorazepams and 9 zopiclones, thought I might black out or something... not even close...

Fuck what people think. You and I may or may not be bragging. All of this bragging BS doesn't matter anymore, first of all some of us need to brag. It can be a good thing, as long as we do it in a relatively calm and polite way. Secondly, soooo many people assume that you are obviously bragging when you really aren't. It tends to get on my nerves. So I say, brag all you want just keep it civilized and on-topic.

It just goes downhill... even if you pop some benzos or drink alcohol to cover the problems, you are doing it in a barbarous fashion, and it will only end up getting worse. Drugs are crude in the first place, so using them crudely (as we do) is just a recipe for failure and damage.
 
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