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Heroin Very strange new heroin

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Chromatictuner

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Hello everyone. I have been an on again, off again heroin snorter in New York City since the early nineties. Twenty years ago, one or two bags of dope could keep a moderate user high for the entire day. It was very strong and the high was clear and intense. Of course if a person really tried, a huge habit of ten bags per day was possible, but not common. I also remember that dark circles would form under my eyes after just one week of using. Withdrawal came fast ! In four to five hours violent yawning, six hours came fatigue, eight hours later and WAM, in bed freezing.

Now fast forward twenty years. I moved away and was clean for about eight years and upon my return to the city in 2009 I found my dealer and am now thoroughly hooked again, but with some HUGE differences. I am well aware that the dope now is not only processed in Columbia, but grown there as well. No more Pakistan or Afghanistan white. Everyone agrees it is of high quality and relatively pure, but half as strong. Everyone is doing twice the amount it took to get high in the past. Yes, I know, maybe our habits increased because of the length of time we have been doing it, but even after being clean for eight years, I instantly started doing twice as much as in the nineties. Also, and this is big, no dark circles under the eyes. Four bags per day for three years and I look fresh and healthy. No joke. Nobody suspects a thing.

Now here is my big question and Bluelight is my last hope of finding an answer because no one seems to have a clue. The withdrawals from this new, weaker, South American dope do not come for twelve to eighteen hours. I wake up in the morning just fine. By noon , yes, the yawns start, but no nausea, no cold sweats, nothing really bad until twenty hours pass. What the hell? Some may say it is because I am now doing four bags instead of two and that is enough to hold me, but I would occasionally do four or five bags in the past and the withdrawal would hit me like a freight train in five hours. You would think that weaker dope would make withdrawal come faster, right? The theories abound. Are they cutting the dope with oxycontin to give it a longer half life in the system? Are they cutting it with methadone to do the same thing. Niether makes much sense because oxycontin is expensive and not economically effective as a cut. Methadone can't be snorted, can it? Anyway, there it is. The new dope has long legs. And finally, I'm doing twice as much and no dark circles under my eyes. What is going on?!!

I really need to know what the hell I am snorting. Thank you everybody.
 
Using 4 bags rather than 2, and increased potency, is probably the explanation.

The half life of morphine in the blood means that if you take twice the amount of drug, it will last roughly 2x as long (as well as being more potent).
 
C'mon now. Read my post carefully. The dope now is HALF as strong as in the past. Everyone agrees with this. The high is much mellower too. HALF AS POTENT. I do appreciate your input however. I also said that I would do four bags per day in the nineties sometimes and the withdrawals would always be there in the morning or within five or six hours..and how does one explain no dark circles under the eyes.? No, something is amiss. I strongly suspect a little oxycontin to give it a longer life in the system, but again, does not make sense because why would the dealers want a buyer to last longer between highs. Weird.
 
Unfortunately, we don't allow substance ID. All we can do is guess. Nobody can identify substances with 100% certainty over the internet. You'll have to get it tested by a reputable lab, or use a test kit or something.

You can use a combination of silica gel TLC and e.g. the Marquis reagent as a stain.

Closing this now.
 
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