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Opioids Very strange -- has anyone ever heard anything like this?

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I took my last dose of Suboxone at least 2 months ago. For three months prior to that I had been taking ~2 mg every two to three days only to avoid withdrawal.

Here's the thing: I still cannot get high from opiates. The Suboxone should NOT be in my system at this point. Three months at a small dose, then 2+ months without it? The last time I did this, it took less than 3 weeks off Suboxone to successfully use opiates. I am using well-reviewed products from three different vendors, tried both #3 and #4 heroin, snorting and smoking.

What the hell is going on?
 
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I took my last dose of Suboxone at least 2 months ago. For three months prior to that I had been taking ~2 mg every two to three days only to avoid withdrawal.

Here's the thing: I still cannot get high from opiates. The Suboxone should NOT be in my system at this point. Three months at a small dose, then 2+ months without it? The last time I did this, it took less than 3 weeks off Suboxone to successfully use opiates. I am using well-reviewed products from three different vendors, tried both #3 and #4 heroin, snorting and smoking.

What the hell is going on?

that is very strange.ive never seen any posts like this.my guess is maybe the subs made your tol higher and things don't have the same effect anymore. or that the subs changed your brain chemistry and things just don't have the same effects anymore. hard to say if that's a good thing or bad? in my opinion id say bad.but that's just me.
 
When I came back to opiates after two years clean my tolerance was still pretty damn high. ^ Could be the thing
 
You're heroin sucks and might not contain any drugs at all- especially since it sounds like u got it from the internet.
 
I meant there shouldn't be a problem if it's good dope. Even shit dope would get you somewhere with no tolerance like that.
 
Im on sub maintainance as well for like a month now,and this post is defo gonna give me nightmares(as i obviously intend to use some opiates in the future).

OP update and tell us if you eventually got high.
 
First off, real quick note: You should all know that I am not exaggerating any information; I am hoping to learn something.


Ok but here's the thing: I DO feel effects of the heroin, implying that it is *not* a tolerance issue. But the "high" is what you experience when you do opiates too soon after Suboxone (i.e. drowsyness, inability to focus your eyes well, even sensitivity to sound with the fluttering eardrum effect).

It is not a typical opiate high. No euphoria, no change in mood, no increased desire to talk and be around people. Basically, I only experience the bad aspects of an opiate high.

And for the people saying that it's bad dope: It's not, it's very good. But even if you still don't believe me, let's just pretend, if nothing else, for the sake of hopefully learning more about the interaction between these two substances.


Any working theories so far?
 
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Perhaps you took too much or your brain is still at the point where you don't get high but just feel better, like you described.
 
There is no way the suboxone has anything to do with this after 2 months off.
I'm guessing tolerance or quality or both.
I would try a source that I knew 100% was legit or pharms to control for quality then adjust dose until right.
 
There's no reason you shouldn't be able to get high off the dope if what you say is correct. There's people who will try and pass heaps of different things off as dope. Be careful.
 
It is *possible*, that you are still experiencing sub post acute withdrawals, and in that case, maybe your h is just covering those feelings, so you aren't getting to where you want to be...however, it is more likely that long term opiate abuse has changed your brain chemistry (like one poster said), and changed the way opiates feel to you.
 
you dont know how potent the heroin is. sure it's heroin? tolerance shouldnt last that long. you would have to know how potent the drugs are, quantity consumed over how much time, and find out their half lives. probably can find a math formula to get a general time range for it to get out of your system.

my advice is kick sub and heroin. they are both pretty bad drugs.
 
what does it mean for opiates to have "changed my brain chemistry?" actually did not know something like this was possible. obviously it changes brain chemistry but i did not know they could do anything long-term and permanent.

for anyone interested, in the sake of science, i am going to try a previous dose of pharms that got me high. even though i am fairly sure the pharms won't work either. I'm not trying to be stubborn, just logical; as I know what information i can trust/discard at this point. also, i would be shocked beyond belief if it was a tolerance problem.

like i said, i have tried a few different batches of heron from a few different dealers that I have always had good experiences with, not discounting the fact that my friends love the product.
 
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