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Mental Health valdoxan for depression & GAD

Mysterie

Mysterie

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currently i am on day 4 of zoloft, it seems to be working on a very subtle level, and side affects are nothing to write home about. i will take it for at least 1 and a half month to see what positive it can bring into my life.

but i also realise that SSRI will bring you to a certain level of neutrality, laughing on the outside but feeling nothing inside, seeing someone close to you in tears and yet unable to fully feel what they are feeling.

my mother who is a GP has told me that valdoxan is a veritable wonder drug for depression and rather than simply reducing the range of emotions positive/negative, it will bring you closer to feeling alive and appreaciating the small things in life due to general wellbeing, not just feeling normal. i am sceptical at this at first but she said it can take months to fully integrate into the system.

she said the reason that everyone who is depressed isn't taking valdoxan is due to the slow increase in positive effects and due to the priceyness of maintaining a prescrition.

she can get samples for free i think so money is not a problem for me.

curious if anyone has taking this med more than 1 month daily. or has some extra knowledge info on this pharm.

much love, mr.e
 
Here in Australia the type of anti-depressant depends on the type of depression and the persons age. I looked up this med and have not heard of its class (melatonergic).

SSRIs are the most common and are fairly well researched and generally regarded as safe. This med is fairly new and its possible its long term therapeutic value is uncertain.

Regardless, while on medication you should be doing psychological techniques to better yourself, these pills arnt a magic bullet.

Zoloft is popular because it has good therapeutic value, it gets you moving and doing things and back in to a healthy routine and helps you get back in to the present moment with positive lasting effects.

How do I know valdoxan isnt a complete crutch and that once someone comes off they are back to normal or possibly worse?
 
Wow ive never met someone who has even HEARD of agomelatine before!
that is a really advanced Antidepressant please try it and post your results, i am very curious about it
it is supposed to be really good for sleep
in the meantime i take the next best thing (melatonin supplements)
 
It is also good for OCD, GAD, social anxiety, SAD, bipolar depression, ADHD, and atypical depression as well
 
UncookMyBrain said:
How do I know valdoxan isnt a complete crutch and that once someone comes off they are back to normal or possibly worse?
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thats pretty much what i think of ssri, and i have now idea how you would know that. i'm a willing guinea pig to prove either of us right.

@trying2iso

i will probably have to stay on the zoloft for another month and then if it isn't doing much for my mental health baggage, i will push to go onto the valdoxan and report back, not sure how well it would go down with me stopping the zoloft after a week and saying that my mum thinks 'x' drug will be better for me, because, as we all know dr's hate to be interfered with or have less control.
 
Well all I can suggest is dont quit the zoloft if it starts working.

I read some forum posts on valdoxan and have read all sorts of reports, 2 of it working great and a few of it not working and then some stuff about liver toxicity.

Anyway what type of depression do you have? Do you have any other diagnosis or symptoms? Do you know if you have a personality disorder? (needy, obsessive, reclused, fantasy prone, self serving etc).

I would try this AD except a lot of people report it making agitation worse.
 
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Depression and gad/social anxiety since 14, I'm 22 now.

I am reclusive and have extreme difficulty talking to people people that I am not already close to and cannot form new connections. I'm self absorbed and haunted by self-doubt and have difficulty functioning in the modern world because I am constantly escaping my emotions which terrify me. My mood swings from feeling at peace with myself for a few days- week to being depressed and not leaving my room for weeks to months.

I'm sick and tired of feeling incredibley lonely and like a failure. I have no motivation and take tiny things personally and have difficulty letting go of things.

I realise this isn't very abnormal for my personality as I am of the very introverted type. But I would like to see if a medication can give me training wheels, in order to structure a life that is more productive and feel alive again.

I feel it could help me maintain a daily meditation routine which for me will help me grow.

I have been stuck in this vicious cycle for so long i am desperate enough to experiment with medication to see if it could be used as a tool to my advantage...

I will see if the zoloft will be of help, but I fear the disconnection from my emotional world will be a detriment hence why even if it does help me be a bit more objective I am interested in the melatonergid ad's
 
It does sound like depression to me, I think zoloft is your best bet along with meditation. But also exercise and fish oil.
It doesnt sound like anhedonia or meloncholic depression which is where you are apathetic towards previous hobbies.

I dont think you should start viewing medication as an experiment or new novel life 'thing' to get in to, however if one does work for you, sticking with it for 12-24 months while you get in to a lifestyle routine that YOU are happy with.

You say you take tiny things personally, I think talk therapy would be best to help you deal with that and understand other people better, that its usually about them and not about you.

Also I dont think you are introverted, I think you just have social anxiety, there are personality types that really are introverted and I doubt thats you.

When you are happy with yourself would you rather be alone or with friends you know?
 
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If I am happy I would like to be with a close friend but that is a very rare occurance unless I am on drugs (I am now, benzos and codeine) <- why I am able to express myself right now

If you are familiar with personality I am 100% certain that I am enneagram 4w5 sp/sx or Myers Briggs infp which is pretty much one of the most introvert types of both maps.

I would consider myself melancholic as well although things have definitely improved since high school. I do talk to my dr about life about once a month which does help me to see another perspective on things (I barely open up to anyone else).

I take fish oil and magnesium twice a day. I believe that 6-12 months is the longest one should stay on an AD as u said. I am going to talk to my dr to see if he knows any skilled cbd teachers,

I really appreciate the time you took to read me and respond, it has lifted my spirits a bit to know someone understands.
 
Mysterie said:
Depression and gad/social anxiety since 14, I'm 22 now.

I am reclusive and have extreme difficulty talking to people people that I am not already close to and cannot form new connections. I'm self absorbed and haunted by self-doubt and have difficulty functioning in the modern world because I am constantly escaping my emotions which terrify me. My mood swings from feeling at peace with myself for a few days- week to being depressed and not leaving my room for weeks to months.

I'm sick and tired of feeling incredibley lonely and like a failure. I have no motivation and take tiny things personally and have difficulty letting go of things.

I realise this isn't very abnormal for my personality as I am of the very introverted type. But I would like to see if a medication can give me training wheels, in order to structure a life that is more productive and feel alive again.

I feel it could help me maintain a daily meditation routine which for me will help me grow.

I have been stuck in this vicious cycle for so long i am desperate enough to experiment with medication to see if it could be used as a tool to my advantage...

I will see if the zoloft will be of help, but I fear the disconnection from my emotional world will be a detriment hence why even if it does help me be a bit more objective I am interested in the melatonergid ad's
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Have you considered doing psychotherapy? It really helps, indeed.
Zoloft IMO won´t make you feel better in its integrity.
I agree with UncookMyBrain as it does not sound like depression at all to me either.
 
Its not severe depression but there is definitely depression I think mild. You are able to express yourself on codeine and benzos because they temporarily lift you out of the depression, when people are depressed they dont socialize as well.

Those 2 personality tests you linked I dont believe in or at least arnt clinically significant, I would probably test differently in them across time.

I think what will help you more than anything is 1) quit substance use 2) jogging 3x a week for 10-20 minutes.

There really isnt much point in going on zoloft if you will still use codeine and benzos. I think you are trying to fill a void in your life, do you hate routine over time? Get bored of the same job, same activities over time?

Since leaving highschool have you had any traumatic experiences such as relationship breakup or bad drug withdrawal?
 
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@erikmen
i am not sure if psychotherapy is want i want to do really, intellectually i can understand what patterns i am strengthening in my life, but i know deep within myself that turning my attention within (meditation) will be my way out of my deep-rooted anxiety and depression.

i dont use any drugs regularly at all, 95% of the time i don't use any drugs. i think starting the zoloft brought up a wave of impending depression i wouldn't usually have experienced and historically my coping mechanism for that is to chemically escape.

i have a lot of trouble doing the same things for a long time. i usually drop out of university courses after a couple of months because i have already totally lost interest by then. i had a job for almost 2 years, but it wasn't pleasant.

after i left highschool i became infatuated with a friends gf, who kind of lead me on in a sense, for over a year, then i went into the deepest depression and at some point after that ended up in psychiatric wards for a couple of months after an acid trip. since my heart broke over that girl i think my defences i have around me have been fortified and i have become more and more alone.
 
Mysterie said:
@erikmen
i am not sure if psychotherapy is want i want to do really, intellectually i can understand what patterns i am strengthening in my life, but i know deep within myself that turning my attention within (meditation) will be my way out of my deep-rooted anxiety and depression.

i dont use any drugs regularly at all, 95% of the time i don't use any drugs. i think starting the zoloft brought up a wave of impending depression i wouldn't usually have experienced and historically my coping mechanism for that is to chemically escape.

i have a lot of trouble doing the same things for a long time. i usually drop out of university courses after a couple of months because i have already totally lost interest by then. i had a job for almost 2 years, but it wasn't pleasant.

after i left highschool i became infatuated with a friends gf, who kind of lead me on in a sense, for over a year, then i went into the deepest depression and at some point after that ended up in psychiatric wards for a couple of months after an acid trip. since my heart broke over that girl i think my defences i have around me have been fortified and i have become more and more alone.
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Mysterie,
I very sorry to hear that.
I believe that you are physically healthy in regards to drugs, that's only going to help you.
I've been depressed and know how bad this can be and how often we miss opportunities.
you are right about psychotherapy! As the best ways out are through psychiatrists, sorry I misread you.
I really hope you can accomplish your goals and that you get the right medication the soonest.
Take care! :)
 
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