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amediocrity

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Hi guys. I gotta make this quick cos I'm on my way to work as I type, so apologies for any sps or whatever.

Baaaasically, I've been addicted to kratom and alcohol for the past eight months. I'm nearly fresh out of supply, another days worth left max and I'm shitting myself over the impending wd. I've withdrawn a couple of times before but only for a couple of days and that was horrific. I'm currently working full time and my manager is a prize prick - like seriously you wouldn't believe how much so. I know I won't be able to work during wd because I know from experience how unable I was to do anything the last few times. Luckily for me, those were during holidays so I didn't have to take time off work.

My question is, do I come clean to my asshole manager and tell him I need a week short notice holiday in order to get myself cleaned up, OR do I just ring in sick tomorrow and make out I got the flu?

Bear in mind my manager is not very tolerant of sick leave at all, and prides himself on the fact he uses up his holidays for when he is sick. So maybe he will respect me more for being honest and taking short notice holiday to get clean??

Or maybe he'll just fire me. I dunno. I can't lose my job.

Any advice???
 
Hi there, I have moved this over to Drug Culture instead of Second Opinion as it's drug related.

Do not tell you boss about addiction ! If he is a prick (like you state) you will more than likely lose your job.

Make something up - do you have holidays due to you that you could possibly take for a 'family emergency'. If you have no holidays then you can take sick days and you can say that you do not want to receive payment - if the guy is such a prick your probably wasting your time with that offer so just take sick days.

Depending on where you live - go to your doctors (prior to WD), tell them your unwell with aches and pains and get a doctors note (sick note) that will legally entitle you to leave (depending on how long you have worked for your employer this would make it illegal for him to fire you).

Do not mention drugs. Do not mention WD.
 
Why not just tell him or her the truth and say how you're addicted to drugs, and getting clean? Eventually the truth will be found out so you might as well just be honest.

Even if you do get fired or let go, or quit/resign this would be a good thing as you said he's pulled some nasty stuff on you so why continue to work for someone like this?

Since you are addicted to alcohol, DO NOT try to go through the withdrawals yourself. People have died from this. Instead check into a detox/rehab clinic that has medical professionals in it. Stay safe.
 
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Well you can go to work sick and so when he sees how terrible you feel he will send you home in case you are worried he will think youre lying. Tell him you ate something. Otherwise, you cannot get sth to help to taper down a bit?

And Id also advise under no circumstance do not tell him anything especially if hes like you describe. He'll look down on you forever, nothing good will come out of it.
 
Thanks guys. I'm still debating what to do for the best. To be honest, I went to work this morning ready to tell him everything, then took one look at him and remembered all the nasty shit he's pulled on me and others in the past and thought naaaaaah I'm alright with keeping him in the dark.

I have been considering purposefully spraining or breaking my arm this evening so I will have a real legit fully evidenced reason for taking some time off. Probably a real dumb idea I know but I feel I'm running out of options and I'm so desperate. That seemed like a pretty good idea until my co worker said she was having a half day tomorrow so she can go out to dinner with her partner who she hadn't seen for ages and now I feel guilty about taking tomorrow off. But I have now used up all my kratom and I WILL be in withdrawal tomorrow. In fact it's already starting.

Guys, I'm so f****d ?
 
amediocrity said:
Thanks guys. I'm still debating what to do for the best. To be honest, I went to work this morning ready to tell him everything, then took one look at him and remembered all the nasty shit he's pulled on me and others in the past and thought naaaaaah I'm alright with keeping him in the dark.

I have been considering purposefully spraining or breaking my arm this evening so I will have a real legit fully evidenced reason for taking some time off. Probably a real dumb idea I know but I feel I'm running out of options and I'm so desperate. That seemed like a pretty good idea until my co worker said she was having a half day tomorrow so she can go out to dinner with her partner who she hadn't seen for ages and now I feel guilty about taking tomorrow off. But I have now used up all my kratom and I WILL be in withdrawal tomorrow. In fact it's already starting.

Guys, I'm so f****d 
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Do not purposely injure yourself for an excuse. Someone previously mentioned that you should go to a doctor before withdrawal. Tell him you're sick and get a note for your work. Depending on the doctor, you could tell him that you are going to get clean and need to note to get out of work, so you can spend your withdrawal in a medical facility.
 
Thanks for all the advice, everyone. Yeah, I think I needed to throw that crazy idea of breaking my own arm out there for me to see how stupid an idea it actually is. I have managed to scrape together *just* enough kratom to maybe sort of possibly get me through tomorrow in work. Then I am going to call in sick on Monday and go see a doctor, hopefully get a note, and have my week off that way.

Speaking of which, does anyone know from experience if a week is enough to get over the majority of wd symptoms and get back to living a somewhat functional life? Functional in the sense of being able to physically get out of bed and actually go to work - I know I will probably feel pretty shitty mentally for a while.
 
I used kratom to get off suboxone. went from suboxone to kratom, then cold turkey off kratom. I forget which day exactly after cold turkey I went back to work but it was day 5 or 6. really not a hard kick IMO.

and breaking your arm over a kratom kick is fucking ludicrous, lose the damn job before doing something crazy like that. you won't get workers comp and you'll be out for months (assuming you need the arm to work) so you may as well be unemployed anyway.
 
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Speaking of which, does anyone know from experience if a week is enough to get over the majority of wd symptoms and get back to living a somewhat functional life? Functional in the sense of being able to physically get out of bed and actually go to work - I know I will probably feel pretty shitty mentally for a while.
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What is the severity of your addiction to kratom? What about alcohol? I am addicted to kratom, and IMO, the withdrawal symptoms are manageable, although they can vary from person to person. But honestly, it's the alcohol I would be most concerned about. Are you truly physically dependent on alcohol? Will you suffer alcohol withdrawals if you don't have it? If so, that's cause for alarm, alcohol withdrawal is by and far worse than anything you'll feel when withdrawing from kratom.

Kratom WD isn't fun, but when compared to alcohol WD... Yeah, you get the point. Totally different beast.

Good luck on getting a doctor's note and getting off work.
 
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Hi there, I have moved this over to Drug Culture instead of Second Opinion as it's drug related.

Do not tell you boss about addiction ! If he is a prick (like you state) you will more than likely lose your job.

Make something up - do you have holidays due to you that you could possibly take for a 'family emergency'. If you have no holidays then you can take sick days and you can say that you do not want to receive payment - if the guy is such a prick your probably wasting your time with that offer so just take sick days.

Depending on where you live - go to your doctors (prior to WD), tell them your unwell with aches and pains and get a doctors note (sick note) that will legally entitle you to leave (depending on how long you have worked for your employer this would make it illegal for him to fire you).

Do not mention drugs. Do not mention WD.
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Yeah, depending on the employer, the result of mentioning addiction could range from a referral to counseling to straight up termination, in my experience usually leaning towards the latter.(not sure where you're located, I can only speak for the U.S. personally. It's fucked up, but usually with a known drug addiction(including ethanol), you're seen as a liability.
 
Yeah, I have decided against telling him. I live in the UK , we have a pretty similar attitude over here as you guys in the US I think (I.e. Not overly tolerant or sympathetic towards those with drug problems). It's a shame, if we could only be honest with our employers it would perhaps be that bit easier to get ourselves straightened out. But then again, one of the reasons I started the drinking in the first place was because my manager was giving me such a miserable time.

Bleghhhhh.

Making a dr appointment Monday and calling in sick.
 
Oh, and in regards to my alcohol addiction, I honestly don't know how my body will react. I've been warned about seizures etc. I've not been without it yet so really can't say just how dependant I am. Guess we'll soon find out!
 
Best advice when too sick too work (from drugs) is to show up at work so sick that your manager couldn't possibly let you remain inside the business for safety/hygienic reasons. "I'm tryin' so hard, I just wanna make you proud coach" and all that.
 
Hahaha, this guy is honestly such a prick that he would let me continue pushing on. He would never ever suggest someone go home no matter what. He always has to be asked.
 
Yeah when I get bad withdrawals I just drag myself in to work and let my manager see how miserable I am then ask to go home. Pull the, "I wanted to make it to the end of my shift but I'm feeling too shitty" excuse. Like others have said DO NOT tell your boss about your addiction especially if he's an asshole.
 
Thanks for the great advice everyone, really really appreciate it. So I had my last dose yesterday afternoon. Withdrawals kicked in very early eve, say 6 ish. Have had restless legs, hot and cold sweats, nausea (not to the point of actually vomiting) and diarreah like cramps (but not actual diarreah yet as have been taking loperamide). Managed to get some sleep last night with the help of some strong paracetamol that has a sleep aid property, but had so many vivid dreams about kratom lol.

Today is my first full day going TOTALLY cold turkey. Never done this before, only ever felt the wds from a severe drop in dosage. To be fair, this almost feels bearable in comparison as I have now come clean to my long suffering partner and don't have to try and hide my pain.

I am going to phone my manager before bed tonight and tell him I am simply too unwell to go in on Monday and that I will get a doctors note for him. Least that gives him some time to phone around for cover, though I really shouldn't give a crap about that right now.

I hope this all eases off soon. I know everyone experiences wds at different levels and for varying periods of time. I just pray I am one of the lucky few...
 
Have also abstained from alcohol for the same amount of time and will continue to do so unless I get the shakes or anything that signals to me that it is dangerous to continue.
 
Phoning your boss is the right thing to do. The earlier the better. Two hours before a shift is the standard for sick, at least a week in advance for more than a few days.

Can you lay hands on a few benzos? Valium will really help the wd to be much more easy on you.
 
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