Unusual first time experience with methamphetamine- what the fuck?

[AIC-RIP]

I tried meth for the first time extremely early (approx 3-4 am) last Friday. It was an overall good experience, however, there were some effects that seemed counterintuitive to me and the rather experienced individual I was using with. For one, I had what seemed to me to be a ridiculously high tolerance, requiring quite a bit more to get my 132-lb newbie self high than the experienced dude that easily had 60lb on me. I have no previous experience with stimulants of any kind, except cocaine and pretty infrequently, and my daily dose of 450mg Wellbutrin for bipolar depression. I don't think buPROPion (generic Wellbutrin) has enough amphetamine to produce this sort of tolerance.
Second, I had always understood that meth was a sexual stimulant, too. Now, I wasn't taking it for that effect, so it indicates an even bigger change that I noticed when my naturally affectionate and sensual self felt suddenly 100% and totally asexual. I still felt good, and it still felt good to the touch, but the idea of sex was just as absurd as the idea of eating. I thought this especially bizarre since I was also finishing out a roll from an ecstasy tab I took about 4 hrs beforehand. I also tried meth again on its own late Saturday night and through to Sunday afternoon with the same results.
Another couple odd aspects: I frequently became violently nauseous during this time, and I wasn't sleepy, but I had zero problem falling asleep.

The meth was very good from what I could tell- clear, uncolored, mostly large chunks with any striations all going the same direction.

Any ideas?

Edit: To be clear, it was still an enjoyable and overall positive experience- I was just concerned with/curious about these abnormalities. Also, the X was definitely out of my system by the second go.

 

[PotatoMan]

try it again next week. first time drug experiences are always strange as the body is getting to know the drug. If the same effects persist and you do not enjoy them then congratz! you have a reason to not do that icky drug!! Also i am not sure of the safety of mixing meth and welbutrin so maybe someone can comment on that. Maybe you experienced what you did because u were also coming down from E? like i said, try it again in a couple days and see.

 

[AIC-RIP]

Thanks for the response. I guess my issue is I want to be sure I'm having as close to a safe and normal experience as I can since I do like it.

 

[zoniksku]

So from what i have read your brain dosent interact with amphetamines like the rest of us do. This usually means you have ADHD, With ADHD your brain is already acting in a super fast manner etc. when they are givne an amphetamine it helps them to concentrate and in a way calms them down, to me it sounds like you have ADHD. Or simply you got a shit batch that wasnt washed and was cut. Or you just didnt have much. Sit down with a good 3-4 points and smoke a few massive bowels and watch your eyes start twich and you want to fuck everything around you. If that dosent happen, refer back to ADHD lol

Enjoy it, dont abuse it, and from my experience (spending $2K on it over a week and a half) dont over do it, the addiction is not worth it.

-Zon

 

[zoniksku]

I just saw that you are on Wellbutrin This should interact with the way the drug effects your brain, they are an SSRI (MAOI inhibitor) so basically it controls the wastegates for Dopamine and Seritonin, and will change the way the drug interacts with you.

Also you did say you had Xtacy a few hours before, which also dumps all the dopamine in your brain. 90% of the time the pills arent MDMA but are actually small amounts of methamphetamine. Since MDMA and meth are almost the same and both derive from amphetamine class drugs It would be like taking a 2nd pill a few hours later, your body has already dumped all the chemical it can and has no more.

Try not taking any pills etc. for 2 weeks after a dose of xtacy and then go smoke a bowel, you will feel the full effects of the meth =]

-Zon

 

[Doldrugs]

I don't think buPROPion (generic Wellbutrin) has enough amphetamine to produce this sort of tolerance.

It doesn't have any amphetamine. Bupropion is a molecule. Amphetamine is a completely different molecule. They work in drastically different ways.

I just saw that you are on Wellbutrin This should interact with the way the drug effects your brain, they are an SSRI (MAOI inhibitor) so basically it controls the wastegates for Dopamine and Seritonin, and will change the way the drug interacts with you.

This is impressively wrong in so many ways. Bupropion is neither an SSRI nor an MAOI. If a drug was both, it would kill you. There's a severe interaction between these types of chemicals. MAOIs and bupropion are also contraindicated. And the I in MAOI stands for inhibitor, so "MAOI inhibitor" is redundant.

Maybe don't talk about stuff without doing a basic google search.

 

[Dresden]

I've combined MDMA with 150 mg bupropion and had no ill effects. However, contrary to current popular belief, wellbutrin has nothing to offer the recreational drug user save for the placebo effect and reliably causes seizures at high doses.

But to answer the OP's query, I would say that if you didn't have any trouble falling asleep, then you definitely didn't get very good crystal.

 

[AIC-RIP]

I just saw that you are on Wellbutrin This should interact with the way the drug effects your brain, they are an SSRI (MAOI inhibitor) so basically it controls the wastegates for Dopamine and Seritonin, and will change the way the drug interacts with you.

Also you did say you had Xtacy a few hours before, which also dumps all the dopamine in your brain. 90% of the time the pills arent MDMA but are actually small amounts of methamphetamine. Since MDMA and meth are almost the same and both derive from amphetamine class drugs It would be like taking a 2nd pill a few hours later, your body has already dumped all the chemical it can and has no more.

Try not taking any pills etc. for 2 weeks after a dose of xtacy and then go smoke a bowel, you will feel the full effects of the meth =]

-Zon

Actually, I know my medications pretty well. Wellbutrin has no effect on sertonin, rather, it is an atypical antidepressant that increases dopamine levels in the brain due to an amphetamine derivative it is made from.
And, XTC doesn't dump your dopamine, it dumps seratonin, so it should have no major effect on the meth, which deals almost exclusively with dopamine (and some norepinephrine). So, meth doesn't really have an extended tolerance period right off the bat like XTC does because dopamine recuperates a lot faster than seratonin.

 

[AIC-RIP]

Actually, I'm 100% positive that I do not have ADHD, nor was it low qual, nor did I take too little. I was extremely energized and affectionate and motivated, I even got to seeing mild visuals levels of high. But absolutely no sexual feelings or arousal or anything.

 

[《Plasticity》]

Something else worth mentioning is that both methamphetamine and MDMA are monoamine releasers therefor cross-tolerance should be expected. Methamp releases quite a bit more serotonin than regular amp. Although DAT and NA are responsible for a good chunk of the effects of meth, it's serotonin release isn't negligible.

It seems like all the heavy meth users I know in my area (meth is a problem around here ) don't understand the appeal in MDMA as they get little to no effects from it, even with quality MDMA... so apparently these two are cross-tolerant to some extent. Although MDMA is also a dopamine releaser, the dopamine transporter appears to be more resilient than SERT. That and the fact that MDMA is a much more potent serotonin releaser than it is a dopamine releaser means that it would take some heavy MDMA use to actually "deplete your dopamine" significantly.

It would be a good idea to recover for a few weeks and try again, without any other adulterants to color the experience. Even though the MDMA was out of your system at the time of exp #2, I'm sure you know that it can take over a month for serotinin to be fully replenished.

Or... maybe meth just isn't what you expected it to be? *shrugs*

 

[Babbs76]

I do not have ADD and am not on any other meds right now. I tried meth and I get nothing. I get no appetite but that is all,I know it's good cause I watched a friend and it was great for them. I am so confused and honestly not disappointed cause I really don't want to take it again. I am wondering if my having a auto--immune disease may have something to do with it or the fact that I have always going the opposite reaction from anything. Oh well