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Unknown Amphetamine ( E Pills) - Experienced W/ MDMA - On the Edge of Death

itstimetoroll

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So I have rolled like 25 times and have gotten my share of amazing and bunk rolls. But starting last night and continuing to right now I had the worst roll of my life. I got some rolls ORANGE/PINK HEADS (MASS, USA) and took 2. After an hour I was feeling a slight amount euphoria, assuming I had some weak rolls... I always hear of how people die from PMA in Australia and the something around the likes that the last American to was in Florida like 3 years ago or so... I never ever believed these piece of shit pills made by the most twisted people I can imagine would end up in my hands.... So anyways I then take 1 more and listen to some techno feeling pretty good. I get back to my friends and feel like I need some more to really get a real good roll going, so I snort two more (Total-5 Pills). I have lots and lots of energy and notice more visuals than mdma usually (not like mda though) but also none of the connection you feel from either of those... About 45 minutes later it starts. My chest feels like my heart is straining with each beat (which is going quite fast) also it is completely irregular often dub.dub....dubdub........dub. I start to feel very dizzy and like I could pass out a bunch of times. Breathing becomes not automatic, but something I actually have to think about to do. My muscles start to lock up, my ankle will extend and I have to hit the thing to get it back to its right position. At this point I still dont really know whats going on, but Im taking bid deep breaths (to both breathe and to try to relax my heart and blood pressure)... I realize somethings not right at all and I need this drug out of my system fucking fast, I start drinking huge amounts of water (and pissing too). This actually makes me feel somewhat better and I lay down with a friend on this rocky beach on a lake (still having to try to keep myself from passing out, but with my heart and breathing more natural now). I leave the beach to go home and on the way run out of my drink (and start to get dehydrated), a few minutes later I feel like im a fucking furnace and the strained, irregular heart is back as well as the assisted breathing. I now take my temperature and to my amazement its just 98F (I checked 3 different spots), but I still feel like the insides of me are wicked hot... I continue to drink lots of water and electrolytes while watching football and finally everything diminishes except the feeling to want to pass out every now and then and I start to get cold after 3 hours or so.. Now I just have a pounding headache, feel very tired (start to nod of now and then, but Im forcing myself to stay awake to completely avoid the potential coma effect...), am dizzy a bit (with some eye jiggling), feel like my hearts a little weak and have trouble talking sometimes (I did a lot at the maximum negative effects).

I am extremely lucky and feel that If I didnt space those pills out, or If I took even 1 or 2 more that I might not be here talking to all of you right now... And yes this shit does happen, even right here in Massachusetts, USA so be careful... EITHER Think Twice About Doing Ecstasy or BUY A TEST KIT AND USE IT... as for me I dont think im going to ever do any ecstasy again as this is one of the scariest experiences in my whole fucking life (and some people who are very close to me were very scared for me as well) Also just to note, I was with people ready to bring me to the hospital should my fever be too high, me go into a coma and/or convulsions etc. But I am so greatful that it never came to this....
 
The bunk pills do suck, but this is mainly just a reason to not do five pills. If two didn't do it, you shouldn't take more. My opinion, anyways.
 
so why do you suspect PMA? I have never heard of them in the US the symptoms you describe sounds like a high dose of meth. especially the way you describe the deep breathing classic high dose amphetamine.
 
Thanks for posting itstimetoroll.

I think your story once again helps to show why it is so important for people to use a testing kit.

For the life of me I cannot understand why they seem so much more popular in Australia than they are in the States.

Test your pills.
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Visit Your regional area here at Bluelight......... and also the Bluelight pill reports area.
 
I wasn't aware that Massachusetts was exempt from any sort of danger. But otherwise good info. I have to concur. When something doesn't "work" don't eat more.

Peace,
PL
 
I think it was PMA based on the effects I felt from it and the results from dosing (2 having not bad effects and barely any good) and then 5 having me with all the negative results in my main post. Also the effects nearly are identical to those listed for PMA, ive done E with MDA, MDMA (other less deadly E adulterants too), up to 200 mg of pure amphetamine and methamphetamine and nothing produces an experience like this. Unfortunately I wasn't able to test the pills, but the chances it was not PMA seems almost zero to me... Also to follow up I slept like 16 hours and woke up still tired, and today ive had dizzyness when walking around/headaches, my heart feels weak occasionally, also my muscles feel weak and tired. I have gained back my full appetite by right now (36 hours after taking the last pill) and have no soaring temperatures, high heart rate (or irregular) or any trouble breathing.
 
Also just to add the pills were very thick (a little more than a "double stacked" would be) and tasted extremely of black licorice/spearmint... Again I cant stress enough be careful with ecstasy and you really should know EXACTLY what your taking...
 
well, thanks for the heads up. lm doubtful Still to what it was. since you are still alive and all. what is the percentage of people who die from PMA? If you were expecting MDMA and got meth I could see you getting similar dysphoria.
 
I dunno PMA seems to be showing up more and more frequently these days.

Its quite possible they were PMA.

Though I must ask Dropping 2 unknown quality pills right off the bat wasnt real bright but the continued redosing even when the effects were different from what you expected

Your right You are lucky to be here.
 
My understanding of PMA pills is that you do not need much at all to get you well messed up.

Some red Mitsubishis were going around in Aus a few years ago and some of my mates knew they were pma and still took them.

They just did them in halves...

I did not try them, so I cannot comment on your symptoms. But 5 of these things would have sent you to the bone yard!
 
phan said:
The bunk pills do suck, but this is mainly just a reason to not do five pills. If two didn't do it, you shouldn't take more. My opinion, anyways.

Exactly. Why the hell would you take that many anyway? You're very lucky.
 
The fact you took so many in a short period and are still here is indicitive that they were not PMA

Its still good to keep awareness up on this drug

Also ,might I reccomend you going to pillreports with the type of pill to compare the effects with other users. Its good to get the data.
 
Hey so finally Im feeling mostly better (still a little out of it sometimes, but my heart and head feel mostly normal and back to sleeping a regular amount)... And yea I know how dumb I am for doing so many when not knowing exactly what was in them, im avoiding all clandestine designer type drugs for the rest of my life... Ive been researching more and thought maybe it could be something very similar to PMA but not exactly PMA, say PMEA? Since my body temp elevation was much less than it should have been with PMA (even though I was on lots of ibuprofen and drinking about 24 ounces of water per hour)...

The only reason I dont think its meth is because Ive done methamphetamine before and ive never gotten all these effects.... Yea ive had the irregular heartbeat and very fast, but the feeling that my blood was on fire... Ive never had this from any other type of amphetamine/methamphetamine...

Also it did have a really strong taste, I dont really know what anise is but does it taste similar to black licorice because these pills tasted very strongly of that...

The last thing that is confusing is the really bad effects came in two waves, 1 which was 3 hours after and bad (irregular and very fast hearbeat, trouble breathing, feeling as though I was going to pass out) and then the next which was at about 10-16 hours after taking the last pills (same as before but this time with the feeling that I was like 105 degrees and everything from before but even worse). This is very delayed I mean I know meth easily lasts this long, but I keep reading about PMA and how its sometimes the worst effects can be delayed.

The reason I took so many pills is because I have before and usually the pills around here are MDMA/MDA but weak so you tend to need to take 3 (or in the range of 2-5) for a good roll (I have a friend who took 12 which is just insane), but yea I was stupid... Maybe I got pills that were very weak in PMA?? (say 20mg per pill or something)

Im so glad to be feeling 90% normal now and just want to say again you never want to go through what I went through, avoid drugs that are homemade or test them and know EXACTLY what your taking...
 
jeez your lucky you didnt get water intoxication thats way to much water while your rolling.
 
I don't think you would be writing about a 5-pill PMA experience, unless they were really crappy PMA pills. Seems like that'd be overdoing it a bit, though- cutting the dose *and* substituting a known toxin?

Anyway, sounds way more like meth, possibly with some MDMA in it.
 
So I heard more about this anise thing and I guess its like licorice and these pills wreaked of licorice (even when just in the bag...) anyone know what this may mean, hugo24?? I know its used in synthesizing cheap quality mdma when safrole oil isnt available I think, anyone know any more on this? PMA? PMEA? something else?
 
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