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Misc Unexpected Ambien Relief- Please Help With Pos Diag

blight12

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Posting this again as Windoze click board royally screwed me out of the last post 2 days back. (+9000 votes for Windows 8 with proper clipboard history!)

This is a bit long to provide good info but i would really love any educated input on this as I am really struggling with this now and it might be an advanced topic? I think the category of issues might fall under neropathic pain, spastic icy, GAGA withdrawals, muscle tension/relaxation etc. Not really sure.

BACKGROUND

So to get to the point. I have been to two docs for this, but would just like your thoughts as well as I am not getting much joy there. Docs feedback is at the end. 2 doc visits have not been able to help! So please dont just so go to the doc without some advice.

I have recently struggled with an issue that has bothered my as long as i can remember from being a young adult, about over the last 8 years, most likely after i recklessly engaged high MDMA abuse over a very heavy OD level 9 months and then milder and safer and occasional stimulant(coke/meth) abuse and over the next 7 years following.

In that time frame i suffered horribly from bad anxiety and paranoia from personal security paranoia (home invasions etc) to global and local political paranoia (wars etc) for years.
It was life limiting of note. These will definitely caused by my frequent MDMA OD level doses in those 9 months (talking eating maybe 5 strong MDA tabs a night, that type of thing. fun at the time...). The follow stim years was just to keep sane and didnt seem to make any of the anxiety or paranoia matters worse.

But 9 years down the line I am off the high dose Paxil and Seroquel which i was on for like 6 years stopping beginning of 2013 and things are mostly good comparatively, i feel good, i feel normal, i feel human again! Seems the wreck i did on Serotonin has mostly healed and overall It seems like the wreck i did to my brain in other places has recovered to manageable levels after about the last 8 years as well. I still do quality meth maybe every 3 months with max 2 day binges. This has seemed to not cause any issues.

CURRENT ISSUE

Now on to the current issue: Anyways I am now having a more physically related issue that is bugging me batty. Ive always had it but it was mild and ignorable when younger. Now its invading my conscious life daily and messing with work and quality of life:

Basically, I get this sensation, which very difficult to describe comparatively or properly but its a sensation on the right side of my neck that seems to start fro under my right ear down my neck to my shoulder and the start of my back. Doesn't really roll down to the font chest.
If i had to say what the centerpoint was id place my left around the center of my right neck.

The sensation is not pain, its not stuffiness, its not burning, its completely weird and indescribable. It feels like the emotion of frustration has been directly implemented into that area under the skin. Its constantly irritable and draws me in and i need to rub and scratchy and twist and contort to no avail. When clothing touches the area its extremely irritating but its not a skin irritation. I can touch there with my hand and it helps, which is how i have to sleep, with my hand jammed in there.

Massage, changing working positions or posture anbd all that shit does jack (i work at a PC 10 yours a day) but i have tried eveything to improve that to no avail. No specific action seems to help or cause it (except maybe recent alcohol use NB) and only Ambien mentioned has treated it amazingly well.

So i always wondered if it was some kind of mental or anxiety thing since when i notice it or think/obsess about it it seems to get worse (but im sure that happens with many real issues?)

Anyways, a breakthrough came one day recently when i tried a family members Ambien (zolpidem here) and it literally cleared it like magic. This huge devil on my shoulder so to speak was gone, vaporized, cured ha. It was so amazing.This was tested equally effected many times prob 14 days straight now using zolpidem.

MY research indicated that i might need to try (Balcofernb gabapentin and Lyrica in order of decendng preference) as these might provide similar results to the Ambien since i cant really take ambien during the day which I have been sometimes with great effect.

THE DOCS

The first doc was very old and difficult to communicate with and mentioned Fibro something related to arthritis. I didnt buy this. He gave me Trepiline (Amitriptyline a tryclic which I have refused to take after looking into it.)

The last thing i want is to be taking another anti D that messes Sero Dopa Epineph etc. Im willing to treat it directly via GABA only (since zolipidem works) and since it seems to get worse after alcohol abuse hangovers.

My my main doc a week later seemed to understand things better and indicated it might be neorpathic pain of a difference sort that caused issues with nerve endings thus why sensation is spread over a wide area where normal NP is in a very specific diagnosable area. (im still convinced its spasticity of some kind related to muscles)

He still would not provide Gabapention or Lyrica claiming they would not work for this and prescribed Tegredol instead (Carbamazepine) which i have found no info here on and it seems it might be a nasty drug. I am hesitant to try it as well, but ill give it a go tomorrow based on your advice.

I would really precipitate any feedback n this since its frustrating to get past drug use, addiction and withdrawals, and still have weird shit like this fuking my functionality up each day.

Thanks for any info in advance!
 
I was going to post something about relief from ambien, I think it should be studied a little more, because whenever I'm withdrawaling off of opiates, if I take an ambien (I usually shoot it, but eating em works just fine), It would literally take away ALL my withdrawal symptoms... I really think there should be some studies done about using ambien to combat withdrawals. It's not addictive, it may be habit forming though but there's no real bad withdrawal.

Just some food for thought.
 
^^ Yeah sort of off topic but relevant to my interest. Ambien is amazing to me. It ads a body/muscle relaxation, anti anxiety mood lifting effect that nothing beats for me (not even power benzoz or tons of booze, both these things dont effect my neck for the better at all which is really weird). Only amps seem to help my neck issue but i think thats trough some kind of distraction.

Now in the beginning i got the usual crazy effect, the weird shit commonly known. I was scared to take it back then taking shit anti histamines stead. But when you get past the weird visuals, the strange thoughts and how you perceive things around you, the amnesia and potential dangerous sleep walking and sleep driving and physical instability, it can really become very practical and useful once tolerance raises beyond the beginning seemingly recreation effects.

With a heavy tolerance in place now i can take about 3 tabs (30mg Zolpidem Hemi, a few years ago tolerance was up to 8 tabs a night) three halves spread of 1.5 hours and I can stay away perfectly functional even more functional (as i receive an interesting gaba type nootropic effect (like with Phenibut) lake of anxiety, improved social ability but also motivation, concentration and performance gained similar to what you might related to low amp "study" doses.

It was amazing stuff before but now it has has treated another major issue perfectly and I wish there was a similar drug i could take during the day. Even though ambien works in that way for me, its still not ideal as i wont ever be prescribed 60mg a day to spread over a day and night every day. There must be another solution?

Whats that other perfect GABA drug for this? Lyrica?
 
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