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Shinji Ikari

Shinji Ikari

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This is for those among us who aren't fortunate enough to live in a country or state where recreational cannabis has been legalised.

How is your local cannabis scene?
Are the laws strictly enforced or is it something the police turn a blind eye to?
How are social attitudes towards cannabis and it's legalisation?
How about underground cannabis clubs are they a thing?

I'm in the UK and it varies from place to place. It's borderline decriminalised in Bristol (you can walk past the police with a joint in your hand and they won't care as long as you don't blow it in their face) but you can still get arrested for smoking a joint in parts of London.

I think if there were a referendum tomorrow more than 50% of people would vote to see it decriminalised but it isn't high on the current governments agenda and the prime minister has said before that he opposed legalisation.

Cannabis clubs are this thing I know exist but I've never been lucky enough to encounter one or meet anybody who's a member of one.

It's easy to find good weed in the UK regardless. So many people partake it's never taken me more than a couple of weeks to meet a dealer when moving cities and there's always a good variety of strains available. Paraphernalia is also easy to buy most cities will have at least one bong shop and all shops with a kiosk sell king size papers etc.

So how's your local oppressed by the man cannabis scene?
 
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So I’ve lived in states with legal cannabis and states without, currently in a state without. I’m almost completely bordered with states that offer legal or medical cannabis. I also live in a city where it’s decriminalized.

I’m still sketched out though because it only takes one wrong move out in some small town and I’m looking at some trouble. I learned as a kid back when cannabis was illegal everywhere that you dress and act like a normie and everything will be ok. So I stick to that, I’ve been told I don’t look the type but my stoner voice can give it away sometimes.

When I want weed I just get it a state over, easy enough to grab what I need for a few months and drive back. Also grow some in a legal state too. I’d probably live there too if my work allowed it, but I like the culture and people where I live currently so I stay.

-GC
 
i live in MA USA, and i think only one city has permission to have cannabis clubs, but they don't have any started yet.... actually i'm googling right now and they opened one place in worcester.

it's pretty much just legal for use at home other than that, but you'll smell people driving by with fish bowled cars every now and then just like when it was illegal... also almost everything that isn't a public place where smoking is illegal is also federal property, so you technically aren't supposed to smoke weed, but there are some spots off the bike/walking trails and around the lake in my town where it's really easy to get away with smoking. if the cops found out, i doubt most of them would even bother with the call unless you were right in the open blowing smoke at people... i remember when weed was illegal i used to go into the city on the bus and train and at all the transfers i'd smoke up and no one really bothered me. i used to carry my stinking freshly used bowl and bag of nugs on the bus and no one ever complained. some people must've known... also one time a cop searched me cause i was supposedly drunk and i had a half ounce of nugs that he definitely felt in my pocket, and he just gave me a ride home with out confiscating my nugs... not always going to get that lucky though.
 
also even when weed was illegal, at the big out door music venues, they always let people smoke weed if they aren't causing trouble.. you'll see a ton of people smoking at certain concerts.
 
Idk I live right in a 4state kind of area where I'm in between different laws and approaches to cannabis, but generally speaking everything has gotten more chill. The only place you can still actually have any legal issues at all with it is West Virginia, but DC they have the gift loophole for weed as well as shrooms, in Virginia you just have to purchase a medical card and there are dispensaries now, and they have like hemp farms and stuff pretty commonly in small towns, and Maryland has always been lenient on drugs, even ten years ago you could get a heroin or cocaine charge and its barely a misdemeanor (but still fucks you for background checks, ask me how i know).

Overall everything has gotten way more chill in the last 5-10 years and it seems like weed is increasingly more prevalent
 
G_Chem said:
When I want weed I just get it a state over, easy enough to grab what I need for a few months and drive back. Also grow some in a legal state too
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Is crossing the state border with months worth of weed not a concern, or if you got caught in a traffic stop on your side of the border would you be liable to get much trouble?
foodcrisis said:
also even when weed was illegal, at the big out door music venues, they always let people smoke weed if they aren't causing trouble.. you'll see a ton of people smoking at certain concerts
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I've always found the same thing. I think it's just the logistics of policing things like concerts and festivals where half the people their are smoking is more trouble than it's worth.
deficiT said:
Overall everything has gotten way more chill in the last 5-10 years and it seems like weed is increasingly more prevalent
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I think socially it's going to keep going that way but government policy seems to not reflect public sentiment on this lot in a lot of cases (I'm especially talking about the UK here).
deficiT said:
West Virginia
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Just like that I have that song stuck in my head. You all know the one

www.vice.com

Inside the UK's Secret Cannabis Coffee Shops

I went on a tour of the clandestine smoke spots operating up and down the country.
www.vice.com www.vice.com

^old article but this is where I first learned about cannabis social clubs in the UK. Of course they've been around for a lot longer than that and it's a know someone who knows someone kind of thing.
 
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It's not legal here, but it is. Sold among the various delta products with zero repercussion, they just clean the shelves a couple days at a time a couple times a year when they have these big festivals take in my city. Honestly you'll catch more flack from the medical establishment here than the legal one. And all I'll say on price is that we don't suffer the wild taxation of some states and it's awesome lol, especially when it comes to concentrates here. Just sales tax.
 
Ok, deficiT you asked how do you know: I would said attempted gun purchase, but you are not like, the gun owner type. As far as I can tell. I don't know you IRL.

I am sometimes wrong, but I gotta know. What did it mess with, passport, government job or other job, auto insurance or health insurance, government benefits?

You asked, and I am genuinely interested.
 
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Shinji Ikari said:
Is crossing the state border with months worth of weed not a concern, or if you got caught in a traffic stop on your side of the border would you be liable to get much trouble?

I've always found the same thing. I think it's just the logistics of policing things like concerts and festivals where half the people their are smoking is more trouble than it's worth.

I think socially it's going to keep going that way but government policy seems to not reflect public sentiment on this lot in a lot of cases (I'm especially talking about the UK here).

Just like that I have that song stuck in my head. You all know the one

www.vice.com

Inside the UK's Secret Cannabis Coffee Shops

I went on a tour of the clandestine smoke spots operating up and down the country.
www.vice.com www.vice.com

^old article but this is where I first learned about cannabis social clubs in the UK. Of course they've been around for a lot longer than that and it's a know someone who knows someone kind of thing.
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Did they kind of replace opium dens?
Yeah, the UK doesn't have the same type of government. I studied it in various political science courses.

Yes crossing states lines with weed can be Federal case, especially if in one state it is illegal and another it ain't. Depending on the amount, trafficking.
Technically Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug, meaning federally illegal and but basically ignored.

In the 90's I took some summer school classes and a friend in one of classes, who caught a Federal case over one pot plant.

How did he get caught? A drunken neighbor was mad at his Television( as former drunk I kinda understand, anyways his apartment didn't have a balcony and his neighbors did. This was a safe place other than a few incidents.

So he entered the unlocked door of a high rise building( over 10 floors) and threw a big television( this was before flat screens) off the 9th or 11th floor. The cops came, found a small plant, and destroyed his future by calling in the feds.

Another guy I knew, caught a federal case, I believe, over one hit of acid.

By comparison, I was a bad drunk, banned from numerous bars and other unpleasantness. Only got non- misdemeanor fines, citations and once 8 hours of community services on BTW 6-10 offenses. And I had gone for a year to a satellite campus of this big major public University. No not University of Michigan.
 
Jnowhere said:
Did they kind of replace opium dens?
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Opium dens weren't nearly as ubiquitous as they were in the states so I dunno if there were that many to replace. We didn't have a big ol' railroad to build and looking at Wikipedia (not the most reliable source I know) there only around 600 Chinese living in Britain at the end of the 19th century. I don't know heaps about the drug culture in the period though. I'm more of a 20th century guys in terms of my historical pursuits.
Jnowhere said:
In the 90's I took some summer school classes and a friend in one of classes, who caught a Federal case over one pot plant
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That's pretty fucked, but it's also kind of impossible to imagine happening today, so maybe progress is a thing.
Jnowhere said:
By comparison, I was a bad drunk, banned from numerous bars and other unpleasantness. Only got non- misdemeanor fines, citations and once 8 hours of community services on BTW 6-10 offenses
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It's not a level playing field.

What will it take for weed to become federally legal anyway if it's legalised at the state level everywhere are they just gonna be like "fuck it fine"?

Psychlone Jack said:
It's not legal here, but it is
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I like that.
 
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Shinji Ikari said:
Opium dens weren't nearly as ubiquitous as they were in the states so I dunno if there were that many to replace. We didn't have a big ol' railroad to build and looking at Wikipedia (not the most reliable source I know) there only around 600 Chinese living in Britain at the end of the 19th century. I don't know heaps about the drug culture in the period though. I'm more of a 20th century guys in terms of my historical pursuits.

That's pretty fucked, but it's also kind of impossible to imagine happening today, so maybe progress is a thing.

It's not a level playing field.

What will it take for weed to become federally legal anyway if it's legalised at the state level everywhere are they just gonna be like "fuck it fine"?


I like that.
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Um you ain't been to our pot shops. They look like grown-up candy stores.
Also the reason I asked about opium dens is the Opium Wars and I am not trying to be funny but on an episode of the simpsons( three different mini stories) they had a opium den in 19th century England in one of the mini episodes( only slightly better than Wikipedia for accurate historical information)
 
Jnowhere said:
Um you ain't been to our pot shops. They look like grown-up candy stores.
Also the reason I asked about opium dens is the Opium Wars and I am not trying to be funny but on an episode of the simpsons( three different mini stories) they had a opium den in 19th century England in one of the mini episodes( only slightly better than Wikipedia for accurate historical information)
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I've got family in Washington state so I've visited a couple of dispensaries. Candy store is an apt description. Made me feel like a kid too! 😁
 
That is America, and who knows, our political system is more Democratic(as in the process, not necessarily as it pretains to the Democratic party that has become weirdly more leftist and authoritarian in many ways. The Republicans are more liberal now, but have their own hang ups, and varies from politician to politician.) We vote for politicians not a political party; and it varies from state to state. But many still vote on party lines; but can do what they want.

Also our President is voted on, not appointed by a party or a coalition government and no royality( We know how much you guy love King Charles and King Horse face F.U.B.A.R said that about the Queen( Horse face).

So to answer your question only 30 or so states have legalized and many require a pot card, which is easy to get.

Other states, fines or possibly jail or prison. And none are cheaper and more chill about pot than Michigan, or it was, not sure now, but recreational weed ok and 70 grams or 2 1/2 ounces per day at least that is what the law says and grow up to 12 plants if you are 21 or older, just keep it hidden from public view

This one is your call on if it is okay. I respect your decision and it does answer some questions about, your question. Delete it, if it is not tidy enough, yes I know I am long winded
 
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Shinji Ikari said:
I think if there were a referendum tomorrow more than 50% of people would vote to see it decriminalised but it isn't high on the current governments agenda and the prime minister has said before that he opposed legalisation.
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If the referendum was limited to people under 50, then that may be the case. But don't forget, we have an ever increasing number of pesky old cunts who don't care about anything other than their pensions and 'bloody forriners'.

Something happens to the human brain as you approach senility. You tend to lose your tolerance and assume that everyone younger than you is a social delinquent who deserves to be shot.

I'm rapidly approaching this stage in my life, but I'm struggling to resist.

Unfortunately, I'm more worried about the little cunts who keep cycling across the stones on my front drive...
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
If the referendum was limited to people under 50, then that may be the case. But don't forget, we have an ever increasing number of pesky old cunts who don't care about anything other than their pensions and 'bloody forriners
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Good point, although those pesky old cunts did just elect a labour government, even if it was out of desperation 🤣

And of course starmer has already laid out his views on the devils lettuce
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omething happens to the human brain as you approach senility. You tend to lose your tolerance and assume that everyone younger than you is a social delinquent who deserves to be shot
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Just to much time spent thinking about what's in the tabloids I think. My grandad was like this. Almost everything he had to say came out of the daily mirror and boy was he mad about it all.
 
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