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Ulcers and how about them

BottleOfOxy

BottleOfOxy

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Alright i'm kinda astounded that i couldn't find anything about this search but here ya go...

I have had an severe stomach pain for about 2 months now, I went to a clinic and it was dismissed... it got worse and I went to a slightly better doctor who agreed i probally had an ucler and got myself tested for H. Plori (sp?) and came back negative. For a while I was drinking occassionally but its really started to fuck me over, I even threw up after drinking like half a beer several weeks ago simply because my GI tract is so fucked.

So i've completely stopped drinking, cut down on smoking, stop snorting things (cause of the drip) after i finished the add drugs i needed for an essay, and I have been taking Mastic Gum and DGL licorice religiously which i think have helped a lot. I've also stopped sugars and caffeine.

I have a general practicioner doctor appointment for next week and I'm obviously going to address this with a good doctor now, and I needed to set up an appointment with a Gastroenterologist asap.

Soo, my questions basically are...

-Who else has experienced this?
-How long does it take to recover?
-When can I get sloshed again?
-Any suggestions for recover?
-Is there anyway to get this fixed faster because i will pay a small fortune to get back to normal?

and how long until it at least stops hurting because I don't need yet another source of chronic pain and this has been predominatly painful all the time for the past 2 months. Please help!
 
Time is pretty much the only way to heal ulcers--Though I have no idea what specifically an "iiucler" is, to be honest, so maybe there is a better treatment for those. Talk with your doctor.
 
Edited title - the OP is talking about ulcers but the subject was meant to present it all fancy - iiulcers!! - ie: exclamation points on each side. This makes it easier to understand.
 
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Edited title - the OP is talking about ulcers but the subject was meant to present it all fancy - iiulcers!! - ie: exclamation points on each side. This makes it easier to understand.
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Oooooh, okay. I thought maybe "iiuclers" were some type of stomach ulcer or something, like a stage two pressure ulcer--Though that's on your skin.
 
haha sorry that was misleading, and yeah these are the answers that I expected... i could only hope some miracle cure would pop up though...
 
how has your appetite been? I went to the doctor yesterday for my strange array of symptoms and my doctor suspects me to have an ulcer. if you want more info feel free to ask me questions and such
 
90% of ulcers are due to h. pylori infection. The treatment is usually two antibiotics along with another ingredient to enhance the process of eradicating h. pylori. For instance the prevpac or the helidac. The remaining ulcers are usually related to alcohol use/overuse or NSAID use/overuse.

Time is pretty much the only way to heal ulcers is not the sensible if one has access to basic 21st century knowledge of ulcers, imo.

Edit: l-glutamine that is in the muscle head/weight lifter part of vitamin shops, has a reputation for increasing intestinal mucosa, which is what shields tissue from damage/irritation by stomach acid and other agents. Medical proof for l-glutamine helping gastritis or ulcers is very sparse- I'll give the weakest of all sorts of evidence for a remedy-the testimonial. IME recovery from an ulcer/gastritis was sped up by using l-glutamine. People who I have recommended it to have also said they thought it sped recovery, but the primary treatment of ulcers being detection and eradication of h. pylori, a bacteria within the stomach, is very reliable and well documented.
 
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Interesting stuff. For those who are wondering NSAID = Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (COX inhibitors, a very common example is aspirin).
 
Interesting. I started feeling like I had one on the same day you posted. More like around, but it was really bad this day. I have been consuming a lot more salt than I did for months in an attempt to supplement chloride, for stomach acid production. I was also taking a lot of taurine to try to dissolve gallstones, which helped, but both things can contribute to ulcers. But your doctor tested for that H. Pylori stuff and it came back negative... So I'm lost, as the salt is what feeds that bacteria. So I can't suggest that, but you may try... Cutting salt out for awhile. My pain got better after stopping the salt. I'm now back to a salt free, except what comes in mineral water, diet. I also calmed down on the taurine... Taking a week or so off. Have you been tested for food intolerance or allergy?
 
An ulcer scenario that is likely 2-4% of ulcers seen in hospitals and clinics. The ulcer patient is a regular, heavy consumer of alcohol. Alcohol is chemically,physically,- essentially a solvent. So lots of alcohol over a long period dissolves the mucosa that is the protective insulation that used to protect stomach tissue from being damaged by stomach acid among other irritants. Stomach acid without a protective barrier is quite enough to do damage and cause distress on its own. Letting mucosa rebuild after depletion by alcohol requires abstinence from alcohol for a while. I say this from my personal experience and my non-professional perusal of medical literature.

The OP specifically asked -When can I get sloshed again?- Without being able to measure your mucosa levels, degree of tissue damage, h pylori levels or the like here is my guide w/o any scientific basis-- If h. Pylori is the culprit no alcohol for one week after presumed eradication. Stay moderate or light at first. If the ulcer or gastritis is likely mostly from alcohol over use a prudent admonition would be no alcohol for six months, a possibly successful period might be three. Returning to alcohol patterns similar to the period before ulcer or gastritis may quickly bring one back to this same juncture only worse. Not drinking on an empty stomach, drinking a more dilute form of alcohol (mixed drinks instead of shots, as one example), drinking for shorter periods of time (my observation is that benders for days are highly associated with alcohol gastritis and ulcers). Anyways, a change of alcohol consumption habits COULD prevent a recurrence of ulcers or gastritis but once you have had them, especially from alcohol, you are vulnerable to a recurrence when you continue consuming alcohol.

Unimportant trivia- ulcers are much more common in people with blood type O--there are papers about antigens andthe stuff that likely makes type O people more vulnerable but they are over my head mostly.

I have no experience and have read almost nothing about the treatment and considerations of those ulcers that came about primarily through NSAID use. I'm sure there is literature though. If you do aspirin therapy- I think the enteric coated is worth the extra couple bucks. Enteric is the German word for intestines. A coating holds together in the acidic environment of the stomach but can dissolve in the alkali environment of the intestines Well worth it to prevent GI problems and if you need aspirin (get doctor permission, imo) after ulcer or gastritis it enteric is the way to go.
 
I know that HCl acid levels in the stomach relate to how protected it is from bacterial invasion. Reduced levels of stomach acidity can lead to infection. If you drink alcohol a lot, it will compound the problem by washing away the protective mucosa.

Honestly, the best way to address your kind of ulcer is with lifestyle changes - specifically, through diet. If it gets more painful on an empty stomach, then it could indicate that your body's acidity levels are too high and you will have to go for a more alkaline diet. On the other hand, hypochlorhydria can be a cause of the pain. You can know the difference by ingesting a teaspoon of white vinegar before eating. If it burns and causes a lot of pain, then your acid levels are too high; if it alleviates the pain, then the levels are too low and you should look into an HCl supplement. Including apple cider vinegar in your diet will also help, as it is not just vinegar but contains malic acid which will cleanse the liver. The explanation is complicated, but the condition of the liver relates to how well the stomach is nourished by nutrified blood coming from the small intestine via the liver.

Freshly squeezed veggie juice is the #1 thing I can recommend for this condition. I would recommend just eating raw greens for a time but the raw fibers could irritate the ulcer, so the fresh juices will do. Kale, broccoli, beets, sprouts (all kinds), carrots, with apple and fresh ginger can help. Also, blue-green algae (spirulina) would be excellent. These greens will infuse your body with the necessary nutrients to balance the blood and flush out the GI, and chlorophyl is highly oxygenated which will curb the populations of anaerobic h. pylorii. You will also just feel amazing. Invest in pro-biotics at the same time; you should get ones that contain at least 4 strains and 15 billion cells, and they should also be refrigerated in the store or they'll be relatively useless. Or just eat plain yogurt or keifur as they also contain beneficial bacteria. H. pylorii inhabits the small intestine and if their population has grown to invade the stomach, then there could be an imbalance in the bacterial flora.

You must cut out alcohol for the time being, or at least take your drinks with food to minimize the damage. Also avoid greasy fast food because the grease, when metabolized, creates a lot of internal heat in the GI which can aggravate inflammation. Same goes for very spicy food. Cooling or bland/neutral foods will help you the most right now.
 
A July 2006 article in "Critical Reviews in Food Science and Nutrition" argued that cayenne is good for ulcers. Most food advice about ulcers over the years has turned out to be bunk, especially the old days when you were supposed to do milk all day. Greasy food ime experience was stomach settling for my ulcer. The best advice is eat the foods that agree with you and avoid the foods that cause discomfort. Many people find snacking all day better than doing meals

Lifestyle change for ulcers was the paradigm of ulcer treatment for the first two thirds of the twentieth century and before. That mode has been supplanted by better methods. Lifestyle change will likely make one healthier in other areas but its not a necessary part of the treatment of most ulcers. Avoiding alcohol or NSAIDS during recovery is the only lifestyle change necessary for the overwhelming majority of ulcers. Getting people to baby their stomachs, and commit to expensive supplements and routines for years should be compared to a couple hundred dollar prevpac which often leaves most people free from ulcers for many years, even for life.
 
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Ladies and gentlemen I have found the problem and the solution! Sorry for the laggy response i feel like it's harder to keep track of your threads on the newer BL.

ANYYWAYY, as i said to another BL homie earlier today;

Gluten is the enemy and Jameson and Xanax are the solution!!!

So I dont think i included this but I got endoscoped and i never had an ulcer! So we checked and checked and I even came up negative for Celiac disease (serious gluten intolerante people) but my doc said it's still VERY POSSIBLE to not have celiac and still have a gluten intolerance. I also have a lil swedish in me so that makes me more susceptible to being gluten intolerant.

So long story short I quit eating gluten foods and drinking good beer :(... but I'm like 80% better already! I was just perpetuating the condition from what I was eating, and apparently the age (20) and the onset (came on in like a couple months) is very textbook for this condition. But i've blacked out the past two nights and i'm straight as fuck!!

Once again thank everyone for the responses and sorry for me laggin i've just been hurtin and i'm glad to say that i'm finally gettin betta!!

It's really hard to eat this way with my old diet but....SPREAD THE WORD!! FUCK GLUTEN, IT'LL KILL YA! :p
 
My ex-girlfriend had an incredibly painful ulcer. I did help her heal it without any professional medical help though. Here are some things you should investigate -

Aloe vera juice. Incredibly beneficial for digestion, contains enzymes to break down sugars/fats, as well as cleaning out toxins from the stomach lining/bowel.
Omega 7 (usually you hear about omega 3) - this is very healing to the mucosal lining of the stomach/throat
Lion's Mane mushrooms - Praised for mostly it's beneficial effects on the mind, but it also heals stomach/duodenal ulcers and has many other benefits.

Hope this helps amigo, I know how painful and inconvenient ulcers can be.
 
Ulcers?

Hey guys, Im waiting to get back on healthcare hopefully sometime this month since I started a new job- but I was just wondering if someone had experience with this or could point me in the right direction. I have been having a sharp burning pain in my upper abdomen/lower chest. The pain originates right under where my rib cage begins. It comes and goes. It can go from a mild irratation to a full on attack that leaves me wanting to go into the fetal position. It usually either happens or it doesn't happen. If I get it, it is usually late in the evening after my last meal. It will continue on until late into the night. I am pretty sure that certain foods trigger it. The other night I went to a Hawaiian birthday party. I had two heinikens (which I hardly ever drink anymore), some kalua pig, shoyu pork , and rice. This is not my normal diet, and I paid for it all night that night with the worst night of pain since it started happening. My mother and father were both diagnosed and treated with pylori bacterial ulcers, so I wondering if anyone else besides them has experienced this pain. I am pretty sure it is ulcers of some sort and I will be seeing a doc later on, but I was just curious about any input. Thanks.
 
Yeah you most likely need a scope if the symptoms are that bad.

I'm only in my early 20s but get severe heartburn and similar symptoms as you so had to get an endoscopy. Luckily it turned out no ulcers.

Ask your doctor about Esomeprazole (Nexium) with is *excellent* at stopping heart-burn, dyspepsia, and helps cure gastric ulcers. You'll need as script for it.

Gastric ulcers can be very serious, and lead to perforation and cancer, not to mention the crippling pain, so it's impotant you get on top of it ASAP.
 
nordic_aloha said:
Hey guys, Im waiting to get back on healthcare hopefully sometime this month since I started a new job- but I was just wondering if someone had experience with this or could point me in the right direction. I have been having a sharp burning pain in my upper abdomen/lower chest. The pain originates right under where my rib cage begins. It comes and goes. It can go from a mild irratation to a full on attack that leaves me wanting to go into the fetal position. It usually either happens or it doesn't happen. If I get it, it is usually late in the evening after my last meal. It will continue on until late into the night. I am pretty sure that certain foods trigger it. The other night I went to a Hawaiian birthday party. I had two heinikens (which I hardly ever drink anymore), some kalua pig, shoyu pork , and rice. This is not my normal diet, and I paid for it all night that night with the worst night of pain since it started happening. My mother and father were both diagnosed and treated with pylori bacterial ulcers, so I wondering if anyone else besides them has experienced this pain. I am pretty sure it is ulcers of some sort and I will be seeing a doc later on, but I was just curious about any input. Thanks.
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