Opioids UEI And Gold Reserve Kratom

[KyleOpium]

Hey all. I've been a daily kratom user for about the past 3 years, and in the past 3 months have really gotten into the extracts, specifically UEI and Gold Reserve. Now, I have noticed that the UEI is probably the best Kratom I've ever had. It legitimately feels like doing some dilly's if you hit the sweet spot, but something about it doesn't feel natural. Gold reserve on the other hand definitely just feels like a very concentrated version of Kratom.

My question is, does anyone know if UEI has been adulterated or had anything added to it that isn't kratom? I remember Krypton Kratom being banned for having o-desmethyl-tramadol in it, and I was wondering if UEI has the same. Gold reserve definitely just feels like strong, speedy kratom, but I am not sure about the UEI. It feels TOO MUCH like a real opiate to me.

 

[pinpoint]

Even though you have been a rude to me for no reason I'll still answer your question...

UEI has always been a bit suspect, but I would not presume that every batch is adulterated. There is only one vendor that produces it, and they sell it in bulk to several others. This is the stuff that is made from the pure alkaloids bought by that vendor from China.

There are many other vendors that sell products called Ultra Enhanced Indo, however having tried several of them it is very obvious they are not the same thing. Many are just poor imitations and some are nothing more than basic water/alcohol extractions that are finely powdered. Then there are many more vendors that sell products that are similar in name to UEI.

I think the only way to be sure that one or more vendors are adulterating their 'UEI' is to test every batch. It would be the worst type of vendor that would do this, I would not expect it from the more 'reputable vendors' as they have too much to lose.

Many smaller vendors are often tied together by their source, and many are actually the same vendor with several sites under different names, but the website layout often gives it away. If one of these was found to be selling dodgy UEI then it would be good to be able to make a map or family tree to see who else it might be sold by, or better still who is responsible for adulterating it up in the first place. Obviously this is not the site for that as it would go against source discussion rules.

Its always better to be safe and to avoid extracts and enhanced products altogether. They might be nice occasionally but I know many people that have ended up with serious addictions, especially to products like UEI. The worry is not so much someone taking a gram of some UEI that contained a research chemical like O-Desmethyltramadol, but someone who has a high tolerance to UEI buying a batch that is adulterated and then overdosing.

Everyone needs to be careful. Since the UEI dried up the other year and people went into a panic trying to stock up there is always the possibility that people keeping an eye on the market realized they could make a fortune if they released a product that gave the same effects. Unfortunately while Kratom is very forgiving in terms of OD's, other drugs are not.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

I've never had either but i think you might be able to use a marquis reagent on it to see.
Here is what to look for if you decide to test it: http://www.dhpforum.nl/wiki/index.php/Marquis_Reagent_(English_Version)
Odesmethyltramadol is listed.

I have a question about UEI too.
Is the price per dose from switching from regular powdered leaf to UEI worth it?
More or less bang per buck?
(Mods im not asking for prices just ABOUT them).
I donno how to word it without breaking the BLUA..
I know the potency would be worth the switch for a "high" i suppose (kratom doesn't get me high anyways, just gets rid of my leg pain and makes me more productive)

Actually, I just figured how to ask this.. if you can answer this, ill be able to figure my question out on my own (sorry to ask you a question in the thread that you are asking one, but i figure you would know this):
How much UEI is equal to about 250g powdered bali leaf?
Thanks KO.

-HOOD

 

[pinpoint]

^I would strongly advise against switching to UEI on a permanent level. It's much like switching to heroin with the thought of saving money (albeit obviously not as serious a decision). Your tolerance will rise rapidly and UEI is magnitudes more expensive than buying an extra ounce of powdered leaf.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

Oh iight.. thanks Pinpoint.
That's basically what i was wondering.
I'll stay away from it.

-HOOD

 

[Screaming_Skull]

I think what is in some of these are what is known as Pseduoindoxyl, an anoluge of the Mitarygaine that people compare to feeling pretty much like 30's or dillies as you described...I don't think it's the O-desomethatramadol, cuz, well people say this stuff feels like they did some 30's and is very speedy...VERY interested in trying it, if I ever get off Subs, plan to have some of it around, along with regular Kratom...