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UC Overdose

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Two men are recovering well after they overdosed on illicit drugs and were found unconscious outside at the University of Canberra, but have prompted a police warning about a bad batch of pills that could be circulating the capital.
Ambulance officers were called to the university at about 11am on Thursday and drove the men, both from Canberra, to Calvary Hospital in a critical condition after students discovered them unconscious in an alcove outside the door of a student accommodation building.
Their condition has since been upgraded to satisfactory, and is continuing to improve, with their release from hospital expected within days.
The incident has prompted police to warn a bad batch of pills was being sold in the ACT.
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Detective Sergeant John Giles said he believed the men intended to take ecstacy but it was likely the substance was a derivative of ketamine, a tranquiliser.
He said police thought the two men had bought the drugs at a well-known Canberra nightclub.
''We've got some great concern for other people being similarly affected, or possibly worse affected, by sourcing a substance that they think is harmless,'' he said. The men remained in a critical condition on Thursday.
Sergeant Giles said he was concerned the drug, which came in a clear capsule containing a white powder with a flour-like consistency, was still circulating in Canberra, particularly in nightclubs.
''Clearly I think it's been demonstrated that it's a bad batch, and it is a very, very dangerous substance,'' he said.
Police said the men had been lying outside the student accommodation for a number of hours before they were eventually found, but they were not University of Canberra students and did not live on campus. A student who lives in the residential block where the men were discovered said the men were ''friends of friends''.
They had been partying with students at a nightclub on Wednesday night.
ACT Health intensive care specialist Dr Simon Robertson said people who overdosed on ketamine derivatives may experience an altered level of consciousness, changes to the size and shape of their pupils, agitation, seizures and then becoming progressively more unconscious.
He said they could also experience a racing heart, high blood pressure and shallow and rapid breathing.
Police asked anyone who knew anything about this incident, or any type of illicit drugs in Canberra, to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or at www.act.crimestoppers.com.au.
with Hamish Boland-Rudder


Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act...m-bad-batch-20130411-2hn9b.html#ixzz2QJusaclt

And on goes the ridiculous media circus of branding the deadly drug ecstasy, meanwhile prohibition creates the very circumstances in which the pills become dangerous and cause the overdoses.
 
I put this in the mdxx thread yesterday, as I didnt know where to put it or if it was worth a thread, as it sounds like a pretty small time contamination of some people selling shit that isn't what it is meant to be, but it's good to get the word out there.

here's another link -

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-12/police-warn-of-dodgy-batch-of-illegal-drugs/4624600

and a chick also reported she got fucked over it with her friend -

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/woman-25-also-victim-of-bad-drug-20130412-2hrb5.html

Be safe and careful always people.
 
Wow. That is messed up. That's right near me.

Sounds like someone weighed some MXE at K doses. Nasty stuff as there was a lot of events on here last night. I know that "night club" as well :)
 
I don't know, never had it never seen it, it's not popular amongst any of my friends afaik anyway.
 
Wow. That is messed up. That's right near me.

Sounds like someone weighed some MXE at K doses. Nasty stuff as there was a lot of events on here last night. I know that "night club" as well :)

Bro I didn't know you lived around here. No doubt it was one the very few "night clubs" (I put it in speech marks as Canberra city SUCKS)

My first thought was PMA/PMMA or MXE overdose OR just some sort of horrendous reaction between the Ketamine and no doubt HUGE amounts of alcohol consumed over the night.
 
Overdose pair had luck and an expert on their side

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David Caldicott calls it irony, but for two young Canberra men on the verge of death the doctor's irony became their life-saving good fortune.
The two men, found unconscious at the University of Canberra after a drug overdose on Thursday, were brought to Calvary Hospital's small emergency department unable to breathe.
But waiting for them was one of Calvary's newest emergency department specialists, who just so happened to be a toxicology expert who helped discover the new designer drug that it is believed almost killed them.
Dr Caldicott described the mood on Thursday in the emergency department as tense.
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"In any event where you are advised that two people are coming in under critical conditions like that, and receiving advanced life-support on route - it's a bit nerve-racking," Dr Caldicott said.
"It's nerve-racking to find out one is coming, but to find out two are coming simultaneously puts any department under strain."
The Irish doctor has only been in Canberra for a matter of months and already loves the city, but is also acutely aware of the capital's dangerous underbelly.
"For people who labour on the misconception that Canberra is a clean-living, above-board city, they'll be very surprised to find out there's quite a lot of illicit drug use," he said.
"I'm not here four, five months and I've already seen two significant drug overdoses with novel illicit compounds."
Dr Caldicott, part of a team in Britain who first identified methoxetamine or MXE - believed to be behind this latest double overdose - said the underground market in new, readily-available party drugs represents a unique challenge for emergency staff who often simply do not know what a patient might have taken.
The two men, who have recovered remarkably well and were expected to be released from hospital within days, were lucky to have the humble Dr Caldicott at hand.
"In all of these sort of circumstances, a little bit of knowledge goes a long way. It's the unknown that's terrifying," he said, before praising the work of Calvary's ED team, as well as commending the patience of those waiting in the ED whose treatment was delayed by the emergency.
Dr Caldicott, an outspoken advocate of harm-minimisation tactics over prohibition, said educating youth about the effect of drug-taking, not just on themselves but also the community, is key. "There is a moral responsibility for young people to think about," he said, before clarifying that drug education should be about making smart choices, rather than good or evil choices.
"The most important thing is the message of [asking] is this really what you want to do? Do you need to do this?"
Dr Caldicott said that when drug choices are broken down into cost-benefits and common sense, most youths would be more likely to "kick back and have a beer" rather than risk taking a product which includes too many unknown quantities and could be life-threatening or fatal.
"The reality is that those who sell drugs for a living aren't particularly concerned in any other aspect of drugs other than selling them. Quality control is not a major issue for them," he said.
"The big problem for the illegal drugs or the illicit drugs or the unknown drugs is you have no idea what dose, or what the actual substance is. This is a sort of commonsense explanation that people actually respond to."


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/overdose-pair-had-luck-and-an-expert-on-their-side-20130412-2hrb4.html

I am very happy to know that Dr Caldicott has moved across here. That is my local hospital :)
 
"The reality is that those who sell drugs for a living aren't particularly concerned in any other aspect of drugs other than selling them. Quality control is not a major issue for them," he said

^ Generally speaking yeah, but I know of plenty of drug dealers that focus very heavily on getting high quality drugs to their customers. This is why I wish they would legalise, the businesses willing to go through to motions to sell them would almost certainly be drug enthusiasts and focussed on allowing their customers to experience the most out of any particular drug, rather than make GARBAGE and shit loads of profit.

I've always been happy to pay more, and spread the good word for someone who can consistently get me high quality, and above all safe product. Basically if your dealer has a taste for expensive shit they don't need, they'll probably sell you garbage.

Great article though, thanks for posting VeryBuffed!
 
Yeah good article and follow up. Didn't know either of you lived down that way, I have cousins there and when I used to live down the far south coast of NSW (merimbula way) I used to go over there sometimes, and them over to our place too.

(I put it in speech marks as Canberra city SUCKS)

After growing up in Sydney, I thought the same thing, especially compared to the city life (and no ocean) but anyway, there's still fun to be had there, I had a few really cool times there and met some nice people.
 
It's more a situation of growing up in Canberra, therefore everybody out there already either knows you directly, or through word of mouth.

I had a decent night out there on my 18th and I've been to see a few good gigs, but the doof scene is just a million times better.
 
The incident has prompted police to warn a bad batch of PILLS was being sold in the ACT.
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Detective Sergeant John Giles said he believed the men intended to take ecstacy (MDMA??? but it was likely the substance was a derivative of ketamine, a tranquiliser.

Sergeant Giles said he was concerned the drug, which came in a CLEAR CAPSULE containing a white powder with a flour-like consistency, was still circulating in Canberra, particularly in nightclubs.

Arggghhh!!! It starts of as pills then turns to clear capsules and for your information DS Giles ecstasy is different to MDMA!!!
 
The products consumed were clear gel caps containing a fine white powder. They were purchased and consumed as 'ecstasy'.
 
Cheers for the reply Polediver. Reason I ask is I lived in OZ for 18months and never once seen any MXE or Ket. Just lots of Ice and LSD, funny old drug scene you guys have down there. Beautiful country though. Miss it. Anyone fancy marrying me for dual UK/OZ citizenship lol :p
 
Nah man there's so much Ketamine in Australia. Maybe it only runs in certain circles, it seems to be more popular than ever though. Never seen any MXE though. It's a strange one.
 
Actually now I rem I did try some at strawberry fields, but it was heavily cut and $XX for a 1/4gram! Split between 3 it didn't really do anything. A 1/4g of MXE would get 3 people going for a good few hours!
 
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LOVE MXE!!!. 250 mg's of MXE should put 2-3 people into the M-Hole as 80 mg's x 3 =240 mgs (60-80 mg's being entry level for M-Hole, 100 mg's IM is just sooo lush!!!) Oh and use a proper filter not some cigarette butt. Hard to find MXE... very hard. Doombadger (love the name) K is always around in OZ but I think to many ozzies are scared of it as it's a "horse tranquilizer" or "horse drug" for it to be sold as K due to the low demand... Well fuck 'em all the more for me!! Most K goes into our shitty local disco biscuits, along with a dash of meth. As for the ED situation I could not agree more with the good Dr. It would be a much nicer world if people had a clue about the substance/s they were taking, as it would be for the medical staff waiting for their semi catatonic form to be rushed unresponsive through the Ambulance ramp doorway at 3 am. If they had a clue as to WTF was in the punters system what a wonderful world this would be? Lucky the Irish Doc was on hand with no doubt a crap load of experience with similar OD's back in the UK. War on drugs... yeah war on ourselves.
 
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The best about this thread is that I had a little bit of a freakout and was having a bad time in life in general, and then I remembered that Dr. David Caldicott now works at MY hospital and not Perth anymore.

That made me feel safe as houses.
 
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