U.S. and Netherlands Reach Accord on Cutting Drug Use

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On July 9, 1998, Barry R. McCaffrey, then the White House drug policy director, fired an opening salvo against the Dutch, declaring that drug-fighting policies in the Netherlands were "an unmitigated disaster."

Eleven days later, after a maelstrom of criticism in the Netherlands, McCaffrey acknowledged he may have overstepped. On reflection, he said, the policy was a "mitigated disaster."

But the flood gates had opened, and the Bush administration has been waging a public battle with Dutch authorities over their permissive approach to drugs, criticizing cannabis cafes that target foreigners and ecstasy factories supplying drugs to Americans.

In 2000, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration called the Netherlands "perhaps the most important drug trafficking and transiting area in Europe," and last year McCaffrey's successor, John P. Walters, called the country's policies "fundamentally irrational."

But last Thursday there was a limited rapprochement. Standing together at the National Press Club, Walters and Hans Hoogervorst, the Netherlands' health secretary, announced they had signed an agreement for reducing drug use. In an instant, seven years of acrimony was history amid handshakes, smiles and warm words.

"What an entertaining pairing," said Peter Reuter, a drug policy expert at the University of Maryland, who said he was surprised by the move. Although there has been closer cooperation since 2003 with a bilateral program known as "Agreed Steps," President Bush said in his most recent annual report to Congress that the Netherlands remained a "dominant source country" for "club drugs."

The reason for the sudden love-in? The administration drug chief and his new best friend had bonded over a new high-potency form of marijuana, known as THC, because of its psychoactive ingredient delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol.

"The conventional, or cartoon, view of our two countries is that the United States is irresponsibly harsh and the Dutch are irresponsibly permissive and we are anti-poles of how you handle drugs," Walters said Friday.

"But on a visit to Holland earlier this year, I was struck by how much commonality there was over the issue of marijuana THC and high-potency cannabis," he said. "Their research showed that 20 percent of homegrown marijuana was THC, and they were having significantly greater problems with this. Dutch government agencies have been saying this almost ought to be treated as a different drug."

Having identified an area on which they could work together, Walters and Hoogervorst drew up a joint statement. The agreement paves the way for a summit this fall between U.S. and Dutch researchers, information sharing between drug addiction experts and the assignment of a Dutch researcher to the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

"Does this represent any major change? The answer is no. What's significant is that both sides want to make peace," Reuter said. He also said that despite the accord on high-potency cannabis, there has been little action on the issues that so worried two successive U.S. administrations, even from the right-of-center Dutch government.

"My understanding is that this government is more cautious than its predecessor but has made no major changes to the law," Reuter said. "It has slowed down the program to switch methadone to heroin and has been under pressure to curb the use of cannabis coffee shops by foreigners, but changes have been modest."

Walters agreed. "The law hasn't changed dramatically, and we still have our differences. But I do think there's been both a change in circumstances and a change in officials," he said.

Ivo H. Daalder, a senior analyst at the Brookings Institution, cautioned not to overstate the role of drugs in the relationship between the two countries.

"Drugs have been an irritant in the relationship, but hardly the issue that defines it," Daalder said. "President Bush is more interested in whether they have troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, which they had until March. There are several issues like drug policy -- euthanasia, abortion and gay marriage, for instance -- where the two sides disagree, but they quickly put them aside and get on with being good allies."
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U.S. and Netherlands Reach Accord on Cutting Drug Use
By Sam Coates, Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 18, 2005


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fruitfly said:
The administration drug chief and his new best friend had bonded over a new high-potency form of marijuana, known as THC, because of its psychoactive ingredient delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol.

"Their research showed that 20 percent of homegrown marijuana was THC

wtf??8( 8(
 
I love how the conservatives, now without the "devils weed" argument [due to science] have turned it into the new "Super weed that kills you with one cone"

Fuck, bring on this new super weed, I'll have to smoke less and my lungs will be cleaner = harm minimisation! =D
 
No more caching your lungs after having to smoke 5 joints of schwag from crappy strains made in Mexico! This new super bud lets you get high just by smelling it..

All I can think of in response to this article, besides smiling, is..

hell yeah smoke that shit
 
All this talk of classifying weed with high THC content as a different drug is ridiculous. I hear the Home Office wants to do it in the UK too. Firstly, someone really needs to point out that there are loads of active cannabinoids, not just THC. Secondly, how would they ever police this? If a cop finds a bag of weed on you, would he be expected to just whip out his pocket laboratory and determine the THC content on the spot?
 
teetmanike
Originally posted by fruitfly
The administration drug chief and his new best friend had bonded over a new high-potency form of marijuana, known as THC, because of its psychoactive ingredient delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol.

"Their research showed that 20 percent of homegrown marijuana was THC



wtf??

teetmanike... I tried, but my brain failed to figure this bullshit out either.

I thought we already had definitions for weed anyways:

From Low to High

hemp
schwag
twigs
buds
'dro

%)
 
ya I think its pretty obscene that shrub feels the need to meddle with another countries domestic drug policy. I mean for christs sakes, the Dutch have been openly puffing dope for years and they have yet to turn into the evil dicrepit land of shit that american officials would have you believe is synonimous with habitual drug use. Fuck off U.S.A
 
"Their research showed that 20 percent of homegrown marijuana was THC, and they were having significantly greater problems with this.

The administration drug chief and his new best friend had bonded over a new high-potency form of marijuana, known as THC

Fucking IDIOTS.

That's not a bag of marijuana you're carrying, that's a bag of... THC! It's an entirely different game now.

I would love to write a letter to the drug policy director, but a secretary would just open it, give it a glance, and toss it, no matter how politely I called his policies stupid.
 
OSHIT GUYs I just got a 20-sack from my dealer, and I'm really fucking stoned... I THINK HE LACED IT WITH THC!!!
 
I love how people assume conservatives = anti-drugs. Conservatives have nothing to do with anti drug, anti gay marriage, or anti-abortion. But I'm sure all of you are smart enough to figure out what I mean on your own.

What countries have failed to stand up to US's "stone age moral political influences" ? I can't remember US trying to take over any countries.

I am glad that the Dutch are a true ally and helping us in the Middle East. Hopefully their policies may shed some influence on the soldiers. I'm sure a good number of them will become influential in the future.
 
I don't equate conservatism with anti-drugs, anti-abortion, or anti-gay-marriage, as I am a libertarian and thus conservative in many ways myself. I however disagree with America's need to convince other countries to be more like themselves, i.e. a drug policy based on anti-libertarian ideals, especially when the Netherlands' policy is apparently working just fine. The Netherlands, according to Wikipedia, have the lowest death rate from drug consumption in Europe.
 
Dutch government agencies have been saying this almost ought to be treated as a different drug."

Having identified an area on which they could work together, Walters and Hoogervorst drew up a joint statement.


Heh--'joint' statement
 
America's need? Are you saying everyone in America feels that way? Or even a majority? It could be bad politicians... Look at France, a shining example of (probably) good people who are ruled by fucking idiots.

I can see why people would want to press such issues though. I am sure many people believe that Dutch, being so free with many drugs, is a source for drugs much like Colombia and Mexico are a source for a drugs.

It's a sad fight, and I think many of the issues infringe on our freedoms.
 
Netherlands pwns.

They need to get some nukes so that they could stand up to us.
 
high-potency form of marijuana, known as THC

After I read this, the whole article became a joke. wtf, can't these epeople get their facts straight BEFORE they write something ?

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