Twins bring down $2b drug cartel

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Pedro and Margarito Flores to face sentencing after spilling cartel secrets

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IDENTICAL twin brothers who partnered with Mexico’s most notorious cartel kingpin to build a $2 billion North American drug ring will be sentenced on Tuesday in Chicago.

Anyone convicted of trafficking a fraction as much cocaine and heroin could normally expect a life sentence. But the twins can enter their sentencing hearing Tuesday confident of receiving far less.

That’s because they spilt secrets that led to the indictments of Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, a half-dozen of his lieutenants and around 40 lower-level traffickers, prosecutors are asking for a remarkably lenient term — around 10 years.

If credited for six years in protective custody, the 33-year-old siblings could go free within a few years.

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The brothers’ testimony led to the arrest of Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzma after 13 years on the run. Picture: AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills. Source: AP

Guzman “ran the one of the biggest trafficking organisations in the last 100 years, and these brothers were crucial in helping to bring him and his people to justice,” said Jack Riley, former head of the Drug Enforcement Administration office in Chicago and now the agency’s No. 3 in Washington. “I don’t think you can get bigger than that.”

Details of the twins’ story have been kept under seal for years, but recently opened federal government files, and an Associated Press review of documents in related cases, have lifted some of the secrecy surrounding the two, offering a fuller narrative of their journey from flamboyant teen traffickers to associates of Guzman, who was captured last year by Mexican authorities.

American authorities portray the twins as among the most valuable drug traffickers who became informants. Chicago criminal lawyer Joe Lopez, who represented several clients indicted on evidence from the twins, put it more starkly: “They’re some of the most significant rats in U.S. history.”

Drug-world figures weighed in on their importance, too, in their own way. After word spread in mid-2009 that the twins had turned informants, their father was kidnapped, according to government documents. A note left for the twins on the windshield of his abandoned car read, “Shut up or we are going to send you his head.” He is presumed dead.

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http://www.news.com.au/world/north-...g-cartel-secrets/story-fnh81jut-1227197836074
 
And what was the result of this?

It says the twins were known to be informants in mid-2009 and I don't believe there's been any noticeable decrease in supply or quality of drugs, and there hasn't been an increase in price. If there were any of these decreases or increases the amount seems negligible.

Taking down one cartel seems to just make their competition stronger.
 
^theres no qualitative result thats for sure. el chapo was one single molecule in the mass that is the mexican cartels. supply will continue to meet demand. innocent lives will continue to be lost.

Pedro and Margarito Flores to face sentencing after spilling cartel secrets

“They’re some of the most significant rats in U.S. history.”

god damn. i dont remember who it was that said the only thing you have to fear is fear itself. but i dont think that quote really applies when you go benedict arnold on the Sinaloa cartel..
 
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“They’re some of the most significant rats in U.S. history.”

After word spread in mid-2009 that the twins had turned informants, their father was kidnapped, according to government documents. A note left for the twins on the windshield of his abandoned car read, “Shut up or we are going to send you his head.” He is presumed dead.

Just very cowardly on the twins part... they had to have known their family would suffer... and even if they do make it through prison and start new lives with new names, i just cant imagine the cartels are just gona give up looking for them... i would imagine theres a pretty heft tag on both their heads

el chapo was one single molecule in the mass that is the mexican cartels. supply will continue to meet demand. innocent lives will continue to be lost.

i dont remember who it was that said the only thing you have to fear is fear itself. but i dont think that quote really applies when you go benedict arnold on the Sinaloa cartel..

lol it was teddy roosevelt... but i dont believe he could have imagined what the sinaloa cartel was capable of...

Also chapo wasnt a single molecule, he was the head of basically the largest company in the world... apple, google, whoever wish they could turn a profit like these guys... its more or less like when a mob boss would get killed, it wasnt going to stop the show but his loss would cause a power vaccum and bring about more violence... Ive read a few things about how the knights templar and the zetas are basically filling the void left by the sinolas... they are still have a massive operation but not like the one they had when chapo was stearing the ship...
 
I can still drive ten mins over the city county line and get everything I could before. So no, there is no shortage.

In most cases they have giant stockpiles all over mexico and they take loads and more comes in....just think about all the loads of method coke heroin and shit weed that will eneter the country today
 
I can still drive ten mins over the city county line and get everything I could before. So no, there is no shortage.

In most cases they have giant stockpiles all over mexico and they take loads and more comes in....just think about all the loads of method coke heroin and shit weed that will eneter the country today

lol well obviouslly.... he wasnt the only show in town... i believe there are 6 major cartels, and each one has its own subsets and crews based on both sides of the border... its like the CEO of ford dieing or quiting or whatever, F150s are still gona be getting sold just a different person gettin paid.... and i saw something not to long ago that said just the sinola cartel had over 150,000 people working for em... thats a fuck load of people, someones gona step up, mabe the name of the cartel will change but the game will remain the same....

also alot of the cartels will tip off the mexican military about what the other ones are doing so the politians can look like they are doing something and still get paid on both ends and then the rival cartels build some good will with the goverment and they look the other way or happen to be on the other side of town when they move their product... its not even just the mexican govt the US govt works with cartels and does the same shit... mabe not to the same degree but its nothing new, one group snitching on another to get more of the market for themselves....

ALSO i dont really think they fuck with the brick weed as much as they did a few years ago... they realize how much money they are losing on MMJ and that they need to step it up... but i live no where near the border this is just from what i see on border wars and shit like that.... IMO the weed on those shows looks alot better then what was around when i was high school
 
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Yea one thing I've read is that a lot of the weed farmers are starting to grow opium poppies. With weed slowly becoming decriminalized they know its only aatter of time before no one will buy their shot Brock weed when you can go to the dispensary and get quality weed. Plus the smack coming out of mexico isn't just black tar anymore. They have seized Mexican white dope aamd brown dope in recent months and years really. Its not as refined as the Colombians but when it comes to tar some ppl like it better than the more refined stuff, prob BC all of the acetylated alkaloids
 
These guys should have been murdered. Swift beheadings for both seems reasonble or mabey a couple 55 gallon oil drums filled with gasoline and we could make some twin sopa=D what goes around comes around.
 
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These snitches just wish that they could get a few stitches and end this.
I guess that their mother, wives, and children will be made to suffer for their decisions.
Just as the US Gov wants to give them a light sentence to entice others to snitch, the cartel needs to punish them heavily to prevent others from even considering snitching.
 
When you work for the cartel your entire family does as well....pretty scary. What's worth more to them a life of mule or a load of heroin? I'm gonna say the heroin ha
 
Minnesota Twins, knew they were fkn spillin' it.. As my madre said, loose lips sink ships, might be the best thing she ever said to me.. Aside quit doing drugs.
 
What people need to realize is that there really aren't just a couple or a few "cartels" running drugs. If that was the REAL case then there would be massive impacts on supply. I still think the US gov't HAS GOT TO BE INVOLVED in bringing lots of these drugs into the country so they can use the profits for Black Operations (Aka off the book secret military operations that can not and will not be tracked)
 
I still think the US gov't HAS GOT TO BE INVOLVED in bringing lots of these drugs into the country so they can use the profits for Black Operations (Aka off the book secret military operations that can not and will not be tracked)

I can guarantee you that's what is hapening, and it will continue to happen. Our country's biggest export is death. The US military is the worlds largest gang. The DEA is far and away the most powerful cartel. Where do you think crack came from?
 
These snitches just wish that they could get a few stitches and end this.
I guess that their mother, wives, and children will be made to suffer for their decisions.
Just as the US Gov wants to give them a light sentence to entice others to snitch, the cartel needs to punish them heavily to prevent others from even considering snitching.
It's the disregard for human life that these cartels show that gets me. They value money over life so they implement pure fear amongst their own people. They should be swiftly assassinated seal team six style.
 
It's the disregard for human life that these cartels show that gets me. They value money over life so they implement pure fear amongst their own people. They should be swiftly assassinated seal team six style.

who all memebers of all cartels? the sinola is atleast 150k deep... and even if you do that, someone else going to step in and tke their place... this might be the dumbest thing ive ever seen on here... its been pretty obvious over the ast 100+ years that if there is a demand there will be a supply

Where do you think crack came from?

the crack fairy... DUH
 
who all memebers of all cartels? the sinola is atleast 150k deep... and even if you do that, someone else going to step in and tke their place... this might be the dumbest thing ive ever seen on here... its been pretty obvious over the ast 100+ years that if there is a demand there will be a supply



the crack fairy... DUH



Agreed. There will always be a demand
 
All about the Benjis and and balls guys.

Crack fairy. Lol
I thought it was ol dirt mcgirt himself till you've got me thinking.
Are we sure it wasn't Nino brown?
 
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