Trying to figure out if drugs are the cause...

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I've never posted on anything like this. But now that I'm really searching for answers, I'm hoping someone can just hear me out and offer kind words. I would rather not be informed of anything that might truly freak me out, so if you have any understanding, please let me down easy..... :)

I'm a 23 year-old with a very wonderful life. I function, for the most part, very normally, compared to some of the things I've read on here. I'm in a great relationship, I'm creative, I'm an aspiring career woman and can't wait to become a mom. I am blessed and happy.
But for for almost 4 years I've dealt with something I have never understood. When I was 19 I became very interested in LSD and I did it quite a lot in a span of 6 months. All of my experiences were great and I became a really interesting individual. I really found peace with myself and I guess you could say I was like a 21st century hippie-type going to college and enjoying life. Then my last trip ended very negatively. I had never experienced a bad trip but the last one I had just ended up very bad. It was simply just a giant panic attack, I kind of felt like I was dying, slipping away, and I couldn't calm myself down. I remember just laying in bed and listening to Enya and told myself it's going to be okay.

Eventually I fell asleep. And I woke up the next day, and like always was FINE. It was like any other of my post-trip days. I just woke up sober and fine. Then about 1 month went by. 1 FULL month! And I woke up and was truly never the same. In the beginning, it was the feeling many people on here have described. A sort of depersonalization, a full blown anxiety, a weird kind of bad trip-like state. I told my family and just sought guidance. For weeks, I was very very unstable. I wasn't suicidal, I wasn't even fully down all the time. I could still study for tests, I could still go to school. I still had friends and I just kept my cool as much as possible. As the days went by, it became less frightening and more just "I guess this is how I feel now". It was far worse in the beginning. Even in the first week it was worse than it became with a little bit of time. I used to smoke a lot of pot. And after all of this happened, I couldn't anymore. I truly couldn't even smoke without the negativity being too, too real.

The same day I woke up like this I also had this new-found neck and head pain. And this fatigue.. this constant fog like I was just always half alive. My anxiety was pretty bad. I think it came with the general feeling I had all over.

The thing is... almost 4 years have passed. I've graduated college, I've made new friends, I've had beautiful experiences. I've gone through a breakup and found love again. I've been living a normal life. The problem is not even my own mother believes me when I say... I still don't feel the way I once did.

Current issues include: true, true brain fog (I don't even know if that's what to call it) Like a loss of pure energy. I still feel normal in the sense that I wake up and am more energized and then am tired at night. I sleep FINE. I am an amazing sleeper. I still have the energy to laugh, make jokes, go out with my friends. But for years, I've just had this underlying feeling that just EXISTS. It's just a darkness, a tiredness, and when I get lost enough in the feeling (like if I really let myself think about it) it becomes a feeling of life just slipping away... Like I don't have the true connection to my energy that I should. I don't have a true connection to myself. I am never fully at peace.
My neck pain is CONSTANT. If it's not bad, it's just tension. Like a tension that almost feels as though it's causing my fatigue and a sense of this dream-like state. It's like my shoulders and neck and head are this thing that all together wants to explode and kill me in an instant. If I get too anxious about it, I truly feel like my brain is going to actually burst open. It's so stupid that I even have this issue. But the fatigue, the tension, the anxiety, the disconnection from my energy.. it all feels like this weird leftover side effect from doing too much LSD. I'm not saying thats what it is. In my mind, however, it just weirdly feels like they're connected.

That's the problem though.. I don't even know if I have a state of drug-induced psychosis. I want to believe my problems are all physical. I want to believe I can fix this by changing something physically. So much of what I read about involving HPPD.. that's not me. I don't see things. But I feel negative energy very strongly. I feel sort of pushed down and weak a lot. What I can't figure out is if it is all just a mixture of physical fatigue and spinal issues that bring me into a state of anxiety that makes me feel the way a bad trip feels. I could feel so bad physically that it just creates this negative feeling in my mind that it is the LSD.
The psychosis people talk about involving paranoia, suicidal thoughts, this just doesn't sound like me. I'm truly just foggy in the sense that for almost 4 years I've been half alive. I still can create this great reality for myself. I am strong. I work out and eat well. I have a beautiful family and life.

But on the inside, something is extremely not right. I cry about this all the time.. I feel like I lost myself one day. I truly don't understand. It is worse than I'm even making it out to me because it's hard to describe. But some people say "LSD screwed me up, I'm so messed up" and honestly I do feel that way when I think about it too much. I live the best I can. But I want to know....

What the hell is this crap I'm living with? Was it drugs? Or is my body just severely weird? Some people have written adrenal fatigue on here.. Others talk about serotonin. But my problems are truly more physical feeling than emotional. I can deal with anxiety, I can't deal with the spinal pain and the "fatigue".

Thanks for any comments. Seriously, thank you so much!
 
Wow, really? I went to a chiropractor for adjustments. And once a therapist to seek answers if it's drug-related, but I don't think either of those things helped (probably just weren't the best doctors). Fibromyalgia? Can that actually cause fatigue and severe emotions?
 
Brain fog, pain, emotional instability, are all symptoms. Women are far more prone as well. Often the first bout starts after a severe physical or psychological trauma, so depending how bad that trip was, could have instigated it.
 
Shut the hell up. Is this a known thing or just something you have come to understand? Could a bad trip actually cause something like that? And could it actually take 1 month after the trip? I literally woke up one day like this. Like the Beyonce song, "I woke up like dis".. that is actually what happened.
 
Hi there.

Fatigue and severe emotions might be a side product of fibromyalgia or something else that is causing the constant tension and pain.

I might suggest going to physiatrist to check that you don't have anything physically wrong with your spine such as altered spinal fluid pressure and then to a neurologist if there isn't anything that can be seen on mris or similar.

Idk where you live but if you don't have tax funded healthcare as we do here in Finland I would make sure that you have health insurance which covers the mris etc. and treatment before going to Dr.
 
Shut the hell up. Is this a known thing or just something you have come to understand? Could a bad trip actually cause something like that? And could it actually take 1 month after the trip? I literally woke up one day like this. Like the Beyonce song, "I woke up like dis".. that is actually what happened.

I cant say Ive ever read anything saying a bad trip was indeed the causative event, but know how powerful LSD could be so its reasonable to assume it could be.

Get checked out. Try to rule out anything physical and then you will know this may be psychological in nature. Find a good fibromyalagia doctor, though. It is a tough diagnosis and one who specializes in it knows best.
 
I cant say Ive ever read anything saying a bad trip was indeed the causative event, but know how powerful LSD could be so its reasonable to assume it could be.

Get checked out. Try to rule out anything physical and then you will know this may be psychological in nature. Find a good fibromyalagia doctor, though. It is a tough diagnosis and one who specializes in it knows best.

Okay, thanks. I'll have to look into this
 
If you live in a wooded area, get checked for Lyme disease.

Okay. NOW I am freaked out. The day after the bad trip, I went hiking and got MAYBE poison ivy all over me. I was itchy on both legs for days. Then 3 weeks later.. BAM! The problems began. I'm actually scared now. Wouldn't I have seen a tick on me?
 
Not necessarily. The poison ivy could well have hid the typical rash associated with Lymes too. Dont freak out. Lymes can be easily caught and is treatable. And you dont know if you have it, so no reason to be concerned yet.
 
I think you should see an internal medicine specialist and describe your symptoms. Those symptoms are somewhat common in a number of different disorders, and they can do tests. I'm sorry you're going through this - I hope you get answers!
 
I would approach this two ways: first, get thoroughly checked out by a doctor and ask for any tests you think may be relevant. But secondly, you need to undo the tight ball of anxiety that is now feeding on itself. You may have experienced a profound existential awareness during that hard trip. It may have coincided with the beginnings of that kind of awareness that typically reveals itself in early adulthood to sensitive people. By existential I mean an awareness of being ultimately separate from others. This can cause a lot of anxiety for people but it does not have to be. Try to explore everything from philosophy to Buddhist thought--there is much wisdom to be gained and many practical tools for navigating life without fear. Mindfulness could be useful as well because it helps us to not heap all our anxieties into the same roiling pot.;) For instance your neck and shoulder pain may be completely separate from your sense of disconnection, though that could still be exacerbating physical tension. Likewise, some of your sense of disconnection may not be related to the harsh trip. Try to tease things apart and deal with them in small steps of forward movement in your own mind.

When confronted with a huge tangle of problems we tend to react by getting more anxious. Question each fear individually as it comes up in your thoughts. Try to step back from the emotion and just observe what it does to your thinking. Then use your rational mind to question the fear and establish validity. Often we can see that there is little to no validity by doing this and the miracle is that we end up learning a great life skill: awareness of thought. when I am anxious, my thoughts rule me. They just come tumbling one right after another and boom!--that is reality. When I can take the time to step back and observe them, I'm in control. I get to decide which thoughts are useful and which are to my ultimate detriment.

In a nutshell, stay calm and continue to explore the uncertainty you feel without fear and continue to seek relief for your physical problems. Good luck!<3
 
Honestly, I would go get a ct or mri. Your symptoms sound similar to someone who's experienced a vertebral artery dissection. And they're known to be caused by chiropractic manipulation. In any case, you could rule that sucker out. It seems unlikely anything you've described is the result of lsd. Godspeed.
 
Honestly, I would go get a ct or mri. Your symptoms sound similar to someone who's experienced a vertebral artery dissection. And they're known to be caused by chiropractic manipulation. In any case, you could rule that sucker out. It seems unlikely anything you've described is the result of lsd. Godspeed.

I definitely didn't relate to any of the symptoms related to this. I have no stroke-like problems. I have complete control over my eyes, my speaking, my limbs, face. My damn neck just hurts and I feel tired. I'm talking to my GP about lyme disease and gluten sensitivity on Tuesday. Just so I can dig further into all of this. I'll figure it all out. I just have to get a little help. I just want to be a person again :(
 
That's good! I know the feeling all too well. I know of people that have had VAD's and strokes from little things like chiropractor visits and neck popping so I figured I'd throw that out there.
 
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