Tren Acetate vs. Tren Ethanate

-Guido-

-Guido-

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What are the pros and cons of each aside from the half life of each that determines the frequency of injections? Anybody have any experiences with running Tren that they would like to talk about? It's a compound I have always wanted to run and now that I have the chance I'm trying to decide between the two; I plan on ordering some Tren later this week to include in my cycle.
 
Run Tren Ace if it's your first time. Your system will be able to clear it out quicker in case the sides don't agree with you. The half life is pretty much the only difference. It's not like one is better than the other.
 
Agreed. Some people can't deal with the sides; ie, agression, insomnia, night sweats; so using the acetate will help you accustom yourself easily.

After using it several times, then maybe shift the enanth version. It's really all I use now, primarily for price reasons and fewer jabs.

Tren is by far the best steroid out there as far as I'm concerned. It is the cocaine of steroids, making you feel superhuman. Increased strength, decreased edema, a hardness that will have you flexing all day long.
 
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I agree on it being the best steroid and it's the reason I have been interested in running it. It burns fat, it builds muscle, it increases vascularity, it stops you from holding water, it gives skin splitting pumps, and the hardness.

I will definitely be going with Tren Ace, being an ex-heroin addict I don't mind the fact I have to jab myself more but just in case I can't deal with the sides (I doubt it but better safe than sorry) I can get it out of my system quick.
 
-Guido- said:
What are the pros and cons of each aside from the half life of each that determines the frequency of injections? Anybody have any experiences with running Tren that they would like to talk about? It's a compound I have always wanted to run and now that I have the chance I'm trying to decide between the two; I plan on ordering some Tren later this week to include in my cycle.
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Have to ask why tren period. Tren is single handed the most mood altering compound ever made.

What other cycles have you run ?

If you come to chose tren - e , tren - ace : Tren ace is readily and easily produced legally with finaplex , pros are it's in you quickly - CONS - a lot A LOT of tren ace is grimy UGL made - sides on tren ace that I never get on tren e: trensomnia , more sweat than a night out w charlie sheen running laps doin key bumps.
-Both compounds made me willing to fuck a 90 year old hag- Both depending on your source will offer you similar sides / gains -

Personally I have found my tren e a staple for 3/4 of my stacks / cycles . But again, why tren ? Do you really understand how crazy this drug is ? If not I will share you some information. Be safe, my 2 ccs
 
I will agree with this. It take quite a bit of usage to get used to the personality changes. Anger, aggression, extreme horniness, and irrational impetuousness. People will not like the new you, probably. Do not drink while on it or you will wake up regretting quite a lot of shit you did the night before. A scowl will become your permanent feature.

As far as sides go, for me they were the same on either version of tren. No danger of tren cough with tren e though. Finaplix users know what I'm talking about
 
T Durden said:
I will agree with this. It take quite a bit of usage to get used to the personality changes. Anger, aggression, extreme horniness, and irrational impetuousness. People will not like the new you, probably. Do not drink while on it or you will wake up regretting quite a lot of shit you did the night before. A scowl will become your permanent feature.

As far as sides go, for me they were the same on either version of tren. No danger of tren cough with tren e though. Finaplix users know what I'm talking about
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I got tren cough front loading with alin's gear on tren - e , but his tren is on point 90% of the time . That 10% looks like motor oil .... and you can smell fina all over it - i dnno how he puts it together but that fucking cough rears its ugly head again.

HOnestly - i used tren after 5 full cycles, i shold've waited till .... 10-15 , even with what i was doing - it's just by far the most demanding compound on your mind and body.

Steer clear of tren, if you NEED tren - you are doing something else wrong , or are pro in what you do. Or a lowly mortal tryin to break ranks ;) ;)
 
theartofwar said:
Have to ask why tren period. Tren is single handed the most mood altering compound ever made.

What other cycles have you run ?

If you come to chose tren - e , tren - ace : Tren ace is readily and easily produced legally with finaplex , pros are it's in you quickly - CONS - a lot A LOT of tren ace is grimy UGL made - sides on tren ace that I never get on tren e: trensomnia , more sweat than a night out w charlie sheen running laps doin key bumps.
-Both compounds made me willing to fuck a 90 year old hag- Both depending on your source will offer you similar sides / gains -

Personally I have found my tren e a staple for 3/4 of my stacks / cycles . But again, why tren ? Do you really understand how crazy this drug is ? If not I will share you some information. Be safe, my 2 ccs
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I have ran 3 other cycles but they were all orals. I am 4 weeks into my first injectable cycle today. I'm on 500mg of Test Ethanate a week, frontloaded a gram for 2 weeks and I am kick starting it with Methyl-1-Testosterone. I got an amazingly good source so I'm not worried about poor quality gear.

Why Tren? Tren will help me reach my goal faster.
 
-Guido- said:
Why Tren? Tren will help me reach my goal faster.
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That's retarded because you have no reason to speed gains up. You're not competing on stage. I could understand using tren to harden up but taking that harsh of a substance just because you want quick gains is a no-go. Do deca/test if you want mass.
 
Voxide said:
That's retarded because you have no reason to speed gains up. You're not competing on stage. I could understand using tren to harden up but taking that harsh of a substance just because you want quick gains is a no-go. Do deca/test if you want mass.
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I'm looking to put on lean mass and lose fat. Tren is perfect for reaching the aesthetic physique I desire. If I can't handle the compound I will simply stop using it and just stick with Test for the rest of the cycle.
 
My advice for Guido

Have you thought about alternative ways to lower BF%?

I would be more likely to suggest using testosterone instead of trenbolone for now. Try to implement specific diet and exercise plans in order to lose body fat %age while also focusing on lifting so you continue to build muscle simultaneously?

I don't mean to make you feel embarassed by asking you this, but have you found it difficult to lower BF% through diet and exercise alone? Being an active male in my mid 20's, I have 12% BF and I would suggest to get an mp3 player and to use good music (what you enjoy the most) to serve as a motivation for doing cardio as well as making the time pass by quicker (if you have nothing else to distract you, watching the timer add on second by second can make 20 minutes seemingly last hours.)

If you are not sure why I am suggesting this; I know that when testosterone is at an ideal level, and with the correct diet and exercise program, typically you will find yourself able to lose weight fairly easily if you continue maintaining exercise and activity levels while also eating less than you normally do.

For me, I have often found it challenging to eat regularly so I can eat as much as I can stomach, then will hit the bong in order to be able to finish the meal.

Also, I would make sure you aren't drinking any beer, soda, etc. Although I get the impression you may have taken some of these steps already.

So Guido, what is your activity level like? You can always wait to go on trenbolone until you feel 100% ready, but you are already running a nice test based cycle, and are at least able to envision what you need to work on and what your goals are.

Why not continue on with the test cycle and carefully analyze the results while taking note of diet, exercise / activity levels, and overall how you are progressing towards your goal.

Always have a reasonable, attainable goal in mind IMO; if you surpass your expectations, you will feel amazing. :)
 
I would never use Trenbolone that didn't come from Finaplix pellets. Using Finaplix pellets is the only way to know you are getting pure Trenbolone that is clean, accurately dosed untainted.
t.
Any UGL gear is crap IMO. I've seen things published where lead and arsenic etc has been found in that shit. Buy Pharma grade or better yet make your own...

Also, a DHT derivative such as Masteron or Primo will help with fat loss, estrogenic side effects, will give you an awesome dry pumped look AND will not have NEARLY as many sides as Trenbolone. If you are looking for more fat loss, I suggest Masteron or Primo before diving into Tren.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Have you thought about alternative ways to lower BF%?

I would be more likely to suggest using testosterone instead of trenbolone for now. Try to implement specific diet and exercise plans in order to lose body fat %age while also focusing on lifting so you continue to build muscle simultaneously?

I don't mean to make you feel embarassed by asking you this, but have you found it difficult to lower BF% through diet and exercise alone? Being an active male in my mid 20's, I have 12% BF and I would suggest to get an mp3 player and to use good music (what you enjoy the most) to serve as a motivation for doing cardio as well as making the time pass by quicker (if you have nothing else to distract you, watching the timer add on second by second can make 20 minutes seemingly last hours.)

If you are not sure why I am suggesting this; I know that when testosterone is at an ideal level, and with the correct diet and exercise program, typically you will find yourself able to lose weight fairly easily if you continue maintaining exercise and activity levels while also eating less than you normally do.

For me, I have often found it challenging to eat regularly so I can eat as much as I can stomach, then will hit the bong in order to be able to finish the meal.

Also, I would make sure you aren't drinking any beer, soda, etc. Although I get the impression you may have taken some of these steps already.

So Guido, what is your activity level like? You can always wait to go on trenbolone until you feel 100% ready, but you are already running a nice test based cycle, and are at least able to envision what you need to work on and what your goals are.

Why not continue on with the test cycle and carefully analyze the results while taking note of diet, exercise / activity levels, and overall how you are progressing towards your goal.

Always have a reasonable, attainable goal in mind IMO; if you surpass your expectations, you will feel amazing. :)
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I have lowered my body fat greatly with diet and exercise alone. I went from 20% to 9% over the course of a year. I don't drink soda. I might have a wine cooler or two on a Friday but that's as far as I go with sugary drinks and alcohol.

My activity level is something fierce. At work I am constantly moving around and lifting things anywhere from 20lbs - 100lbs. This is 5 times a week and at home I work out everyday.

I have already started running Tren Acetate at 50mg a day and I fucking love it. The night sweats are a fucking bitch though as are the day sweats. If I move to fast at work I sweat so basically all day at work I am sweating like a motherfucker.
 
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4chloro said:
I would never use Trenbolone that didn't come from Finaplix pellets. Using Finaplix pellets is the only way to know you are getting pure Trenbolone that is clean, accurately dosed untainted.
t.
Any UGL gear is crap IMO. I've seen things published where lead and arsenic etc has been found in that shit. Buy Pharma grade or better yet make your own...

Also, a DHT derivative such as Masteron or Primo will help with fat loss, estrogenic side effects, will give you an awesome dry pumped look AND will not have NEARLY as many sides as Trenbolone. If you are looking for more fat loss, I suggest Masteron or Primo before diving into Tren.
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I am using UGL gear that is made with Pharma grade powder. The person I get it from is very professional and meticulous about the way he makes it.

I plan on running Masteron some time in the future because I have already ran methyldrostanolone with amazing results and it seems like an amazing compound.
 
-Guido- said:
I am using UGL gear that is made with Pharma grade powder. The person I get it from is very professional and meticulous about the way he makes it.

I plan on running Masteron some time in the future because I have already ran methyldrostanolone with amazing results and it seems like an amazing compound.
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Not all sources make their gear like this. UGL can be hit or miss.
It is also very easy to order your own pharma grade powder. I believe Testosterone Enanthate can be had for 1.7$ or less a gram.

I love Masteron... Next to Trenbolone it is my favorite.
 
4chloro said:
Not all sources make their gear like this. UGL can be hit or miss.
It is also very easy to order your own pharma grade powder. I believe Testosterone Enanthate can be had for 1.7$ or less a gram.

I love Masteron... Next to Trenbolone it is my favorite.
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Aye. I have really lucked out with this source. It is indeed very easy to order pharma grade powder; I have a source but I have never used them because I foresee myself mixing gear up not only for myself, but for friends of friends and such. I made a promise to my girlfriend that I was done with making money illegally and I intend to keep it that way.

Come the Spring of 2012 I am going to incorporate Masteron into my cycle to really make myself look good for the summer.
 
As the others have stated Tren ace is the way to start, if you cant tolerate its sides, it will be out of your system within hrs. Tren is basically the most powerful steroid there is, the only other things out there that rival tren would be cheque drops, or methylytrienelone. And I wouldnt reccomend either as the side effects are basically that of stabbing your self in the liver on a daily basis.

Like 4chloro said Synovex pellets are truly the only 100% pure form of tren on this planet now, while many powder guys claim 98% USP purity, you just dont know. And as far as how meticulous your guy is, take that with a grain of salt as well. If you look at many of the pictures of operation raw deal, when they took down so many of the UGL's in 07, many of these guys were storing their 10ml vials in garbage cans, sterile garbage cans...lol. As long as a product is being made in a clean room, and I dont mean a clean room by Pharm standards then yes you have a low chance of getting stuck with shit that has been run through the same filter a dozen times so they can save on money, or there arent pets, or people smoking, and eating in the same room where the doing their brewing and capping. While many of these UG's in the past have come back with horrific lab results as far as the toxins in them, now a days you are finding more professional set ups, and guys with at least a good deal of knowledge of chemistry and pharmacology.

Yrs ago, IP was considered a very high risk person to deal with, now he is a legal pharmaceutical company. It was the fear of what wasnt known in the past, because people like him where few and far between, now he is probably the most successful man on the planet when it comes to this.

And as far as Alin goes, he is a pure pile of shit. All of his companies are UG, dont be fooled by the fancy labels, and exotic names. Tren cough is you merely nicking a vein and some tren getting to the lungs, this happens with a lot of injections. Tren cough doesnt mean you have a quality product by any means.

And Guido, be sure that your BF% is at least 10% or the masteron is worthless. Masteron is hardening, or I should say a polishing steroid, its not meant to melt fat, or anything else except suck the water out of you, give you paper thin skin, and a rock solid body
 
My personal advice is to avoid tren unless you're competing. That is the only compound that resulted in the stereotype of "roid rage" for me. I had panic attacks, night sweats, insomnia, and just the feeling of being ready to pummel someone. I would never ever suggest running tren en for a first cycle. If you MUST do it, use acetate so you have better control over the situation and can abort the mission whenever you want. It is one helluva drug, I've never been as ripped as I was on tren, but I'd much rather enjoy my life as being mentally balanced and having COMPLETE control of my mind is the single most important part of my profession.
 
I wish I could run tren i got a shit ton of it but with a pregant wife I cant afford to be more of an asshole than I am normally so thats gonna have to wait till I get used to the whole fatherhood deal
 
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