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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Transition from Buprenorphine to Kratum

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Julianb

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I have been on Buprenorphine for three years now.
For the last six months I have been trying to taper down the last 2mg without much success.
The fact that I have been diagnosed with ADHD after some 30 years of suffering from depressive symptoms and the fact that Buprenorphine is such an effective antidepressant has only made it even more difficult.
I wouldn't have minded staying on Buprenorphine as I am stuck with taking Concerta anyway but it is just too much extra hassle and since have moved to Malta I have realised that it is even more difficult to get regular prescriptions for it than it was in UK. So I have decided to give it one last push using Kratom. Specially that is Kratom could also help with my ADHD.

So I have now got hold of some Kratom but I want to know:
1) How long do I have to put up with withdrawals before taking Kratom would become effective? Today, I have only take 1mg and feel the withdrawal.
2) What dosage I should start with?
3) Will it be OK to wrap small doses of Kratom in paper and swallow them rather than going through the process of of making tea?

I am not interested in getting high. I just want to come off buprenorphine without going through months of blankness as I already have problems with lack of motivation. I also live alone and have no family or support. So I can't afford to stay in bed for days on end.

Thanks.
PS if the new ALKS 5461 were available it might have been an alternative.
 
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OK, I got no feed back to my question.
So I had reduced by Subutex to 1. mg for the last two days.
Then today I took about 2.5g of Ultra Supreme Red Thai (powder wrapped in some paper), which has made me feel awful. It kind of feels like withdrawal.
I am tempted to take more Subutex but I am worried that it might make things even worse.
Any suggestions?
 
I have been persevering with 1 mg of Subutex for the last four days and 5g gram Ultra Supreme Red Thai.
I am also on Concetta. I must say that I have felt absolutely no effect from Kratom in term of lessening the PAWS except constipation.
I have this massive headache as well as, total lack of motivation & irritability. I tried taking really strong Kava last night to help me sleep instead of Diazepam. It put me to sleep but I woke up with a hangover like feeling.
This has been my fourth day on 1 mg and according to all recommendations I should cut it down to 0.75mg from tomorrow. I think, I will stop taking this Kratom which obviously is not doing me any good. But I am not sure cutting down to 0.75mg is a good idea,
I feel so bad that I think I am going to give up again and go back to Subutex tomorrow about 24 hours after taking this Kratom which has been an absolute waste of time and money.
I don't get it. Why didn't it work? I should be as high as a kite now? Or is my headache and other symptoms are unrelated?
Anyway I am going to take another 1 mg of Subutex because it has become unbearable again.
 
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The bupe is probably blocking the kratom from attachinh to the receptors you might have to stop bupe for 3 or 4 days and tru the kratom again
 
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