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Opioids Tramadol + Diazapam

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Wonkchild012

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As someone who's pretty inexperienced in both of these area's what would be a decent starting point in terms of dose? I jus wanna kinda get lifted and watch some films/play video games. Trying to fill the chilled out wavey void that the disappearance of ketamine has left (I realize these things aren't the same)

Getting a shit load of Tramadol and Diazapam from a friend who got prescribed them from a back injury. I've been taking a bit of codeine lately, will there be a cross-tolerance between codeine and tramadol? Also I know tramadol can be quite dangerous, what would people say the threshold is over a 24hr period to avoid danger and also the threshold to avoid potential physical addiction?

When Ketamine rises again I imagine i'll throw this shit away lol
 
I'd do 200mg tramadol and 5-10mg diazepam, add a hit or two of cannabis if you have any.

The said amount is 400mg in a 24 hour period. There is a cross tolerance with oxy/hydrocodone and kratom so I would assume there would be with codeine as well. Someone else will have to answer on the physical addiction part since.
 
I'd agree with the post above 200 or 250mg of tramadol and 10-20mg of valium, and definately some bud if you have that on hand. Before I had a tolerance I use to love Valium and Tramadol together, and good thing about the two being mixed is valium is used to to prevent seizures also, so I think it makes the tramadol safer(as long as your not mixing shitloads of both.) Since you said you are getting a good amount of both you can always start slow and find your sweet spot, better than taking to much and not being able to take it back. I myself wish I had someone I could get Tramadol from around my area since it's the only opiate that isn't blocked while on Suboxone. But ya, I would start with 200mg of trams and 10-20mg of valium, maybe take the Tram an hour before hand because I think it takes a second to kick in and valium kicks in withing 30 mins or so. And yes there is a cross tolerance between codiene and Trams, they are both opiates.

Edit: What has been your dosage when you have been taking the Codiene?? And do you have any toleracne to benzo's at all?
 
Recreational use of diazepam is a good way to develop an anxiety disorder. Don't even touch the shit and you'll be better off for it...
 
Be careful with Trammies, they don't work like traditional opiates… Not that you are not aware of this. :)
Also, I would stay away from the benzos… They are little sneaky buggars and don't necessarily make one feel high, ime, and are very addictive. Used to use both.

If you are not having panic attacks, starting any benzo… you might start having them. LOL
 
400 mg of tramadol and your in trouble keep the dose to at least half of that and 20 to 30 mg of vallium if you have no tollerance and you will only nee
d 30 mg of codeine to set them all off
 
Screaming_Skull said:
I'd agree with the post above 200 or 250mg of tramadol and 10-20mg of valium, and definately some bud if you have that on hand. Before I had a tolerance I use to love Valium and Tramadol together, and good thing about the two being mixed is valium is used to to prevent seizures also, so I think it makes the tramadol safer(as long as your not mixing shitloads of both.) Since you said you are getting a good amount of both you can always start slow and find your sweet spot, better than taking to much and not being able to take it back. I myself wish I had someone I could get Tramadol from around my area since it's the only opiate that isn't blocked while on Suboxone. But ya, I would start with 200mg of trams and 10-20mg of valium, maybe take the Tram an hour before hand because I think it takes a second to kick in and valium kicks in withing 30 mins or so. And yes there is a cross tolerance between codiene and Trams, they are both opiates.

Edit: What has been your dosage when you have been taking the Codiene?? And do you have any toleracne to benzo's at all?
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I've been separating Codein from paracetamol (Zapain 30/500 tabs) and doing about... 4 pills max so 120mg... But not that regularly maybe once a week? And no tolerance to Benzo's, i had a batch of kinda odd pills a while ago that were being sold as vallies but pretty sure they weren't, def benzo's though, tiny white pills. but made my memory of the two days i was on them go completely blank.

Thanks to everyone else for the advice! :)
Like i said i'm not someone that really pushes this kinda thing hard and am well aware of the risks, this is just a day off chilling kinda thing, maybe 2-3 times a week max. Just patiently waiting for K to come back haha. Also i see people mentioning weed alot, believe it or not i've never gone near weed! tried it twice, threw up and didn't enjoy both times, trust me, i'm in my mid-twenties now, had people throwin it at me my whole life. never seen the appeal
 
120mg of Codeine ~ 200mg of Tramadol, apparently.
A small number of people hyper metabolise Tramadol, myself included.
To me: 150mg of Tramadol = 80mg of oral Morphine. Be careful, you don't want to find out you're a HMer after taking 250mg, especially if mixed with a benzo... :/
Personally, I'd skip the benzos if I was you. They are not worth it and the WD is Hell on Earth.
 
Really?! I had always thought Tramadol was very mild, just like codeine.
About benzos w/d, the psychological is way worse than physically w/d.
It can really messy you up..
 
In most people: it is mild, and in ~10% of people: completely ineffective.
The physical WD from benzos is still Hellish though! Seizures, brain zaps, muscle tremors, twitching, shakes, vomiting, tachycardia, hypertension, insomnia.... the list goes on.
 
I'd start with 100mg Tramadol. Due to it's unique mechanism, a lot of people don't like its' effects at all.

If you've never taken it and you don't like the effects of 100mg, then you sure wont like 200mg.

It's effects are really not comparable to Codeine, or any other traditional opiates.
 
Well i have done 6 50mg tramadols and 2 5mg vallies dissolved under tongue and i feel great!

so now tell me... what is the tolerance saying hahah
 
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