Torus and Toroidal Flow

[iridescentblack]

Have you heard of the torus? Also called the magnetic field or energy field.

This video has a basic introduction to it:

You can also find the full documentary online, I'm pretty sure!

The last two minutes of this video shows how nuts glide down a dual-threaded bolt- a perfect example of toroidal flow, in my opinion:

A better/smoother example might be found in the intro to this video:

If you imagine the "flow" as the bolt itself being the center of the torus and the nuts being like the outside flow of the torus... It works great!

The key to noticing your torus, is to meditate on it. Various videos on youtube and even GIF's can provide examples for how it works.

I've noticed my own torus. Can't prove it, but I've noticed the flow of energy of the torus to be a lot like water displacement; Energy flowing up the center seems to be equal to the energy flowing down (on the outside)!

Anyone wanna share more information on the torus?

Have you seen, felt, or experienced your own torus? Care to share?

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

I want to know if you can actually tighten those bolts. If not, I can't see the point...

 

[Yourbaker]

My first experience of what I refer to as Kundalini energy that was wildly noticable was specifcally tordial in shape. I think I made a mention of it here on BL about 5 years back.

The experience of feeling energy, or my energetic field now is much more common place and there appears to be a lot more going on but the torus has always been there. In my personal experience.

The bolts are very cool as is his back yard smelter. I did aluminum casting with charcoal and a vacuum cleaner as a teenager, his gas and electric kilns would have been so much easier.

 

[iridescentblack]

My first experience of what I refer to as Kundalini energy that was wildly noticable was specifcally tordial in shape. I think I made a mention of it here on BL about 5 years back.

The experience of feeling energy, or my energetic field now is much more common place and there appears to be a lot more going on but the torus has always been there. In my personal experience.

The bolts are very cool as is his back yard smelter. I did aluminum casting with charcoal and a vacuum cleaner as a teenager, his gas and electric kilns would have been so much easier.

That's cool!

For me it was about 5 or 6 years ago that I first felt my toroidal flow. I felt the energy starting at the point of my perineum, go up and around my heart chakra, and then cycled again into a much bigger sphere after it left my crown.

It was a couple days ago when I felt it again. Meditating on a dream symbol is what did it this time. Can't for the life of me figure out why meditating on a small bat from my dream did it, but all of a sudden - there it was, a continual and almost uninterrupted flow of my torus that I could see and feel. I haven't seen much of it since, but at times can still sense it.

 

[Yourbaker]

I am autistic and I live in a non symbolic void. By that I mean all my life I have heard stories of spirits, gods, energies, forces etc. Good, bad, neutral things that are somehow influencing my life but when I sit to meditate I see only life.

I don't meet dead spirits but I can see in another person the influence left in their mind by people who have died and in effect are being controlled from the grave. Often grief, shame, guilt and the host of family closet shit causes this. If I speak to these people and say "I think you're an idiot for following your old mans drunken advice" I won't be helping them despite truth.

If I tell them their father forgives them or whatever its just a horrible lie to get them to see past themselves for a moment. It may cause worse problems because now they want to hear from mom.

If I am honest with people and say I can see the energetic fields of life and am beginning to learn how to sort them to some level of relevancy imagine how well that comes across.

The cost in time to help another is required because you cannot advise no matter how well you can see. If you follow this path you will make mistakes but don't fear them, mistakes are like concentrated learning, the lesson you see every morning when you open your eyes.

My biggest surprise was every person was worth the effort and time, literally everyone, but my life is way too short.

 

[iridescentblack]

I've been applying, to myself, certain lessons - as I meditate on the torus and toroidal flow.


As I'm going through the motions of strengthening my thoughts, I've been noticing that my torus turns into a merkaba.

The cost in time to help another is required because you cannot advise no matter how well you can see. If you follow this path you will make mistakes but don't fear them, mistakes are like concentrated learning, the lesson you see every morning when you open your eyes.

I think this is an important lesson, and I have been thinking of something like this too.

At first I struggled with ways to talk about "my gifts" and how I can teach others and apply my wisdom in helping others when I listen. Most times I keep most of it to myself. For example: Sometimes I find myself staring off in the direction of somewhere where I can feel powerful negative energy coming from; if someone asks me what I'm looking at, I can't just open up and say "There's a negative spirit over there," can I?

For the most part, I simply use my abilities to keep negative energies away from unsuspecting people. Usually this happens when someone negative goes by them and certain attachments take place. Over the years, this has become a more or less active thing. If it weren't for making a lot of mistakes along the way, I suppose I would be more bitter or even have a certain savior mentality for the things I'm doing.

 

[EcHo EcHo]

I am autistic and I live in a non symbolic void. By that I mean all my life I have heard stories of spirits, gods, energies, forces etc. Good, bad, neutral things that are somehow influencing my life but when I sit to meditate I see only life.

I don't meet dead spirits but I can see in another person the influence left in their mind by people who have died and in effect are being controlled from the grave. Often grief, shame, guilt and the host of family closet shit causes this. If I speak to these people and say "I think you're an idiot for following your old mans drunken advice" I won't be helping them despite truth.

If I tell them their father forgives them or whatever its just a horrible lie to get them to see past themselves for a moment. It may cause worse problems because now they want to hear from mom.

If I am honest with people and say I can see the energetic fields of life and am beginning to learn how to sort them to some level of relevancy imagine how well that comes across.

The cost in time to help another is required because you cannot advise no matter how well you can see. If you follow this path you will make mistakes but don't fear them, mistakes are like concentrated learning, the lesson you see every morning when you open your eyes.

My biggest surprise was every person was worth the effort and time, literally everyone, but my life is way too short.

You're using words to explain thought. You can use an attainable goal and a desire to achieve it as well as using the ability to let go of worry as to where it(dad forgives you) came from(human body). I let Christ do His work this way so that I can work with Him.

 

[Yourbaker]

At first I struggled with ways to talk about "my gifts" and how I can teach others and apply my wisdom in helping others when I listen. Most times I keep most of it to myself. For example: Sometimes I find myself staring off in the direction of somewhere where I can feel powerful negative energy coming from; if someone asks me what I'm looking at, I can't just open up and say "There's a negative spirit over there," can I?

For the most part, I simply use my abilities to keep negative energies away from unsuspecting people. Usually this happens when someone negative goes by them and certain attachments take place. Over the years, this has become a more or less active thing. If it weren't for making a lot of mistakes along the way, I suppose I would be more bitter or even have a certain savior mentality for the things I'm doing.

I honestly don't think I have ever mentioned anything to anyone past feeling Kundalini energy. I have "seen" energy all my life and mentioned it only once to my mother, who took me to see the Pastor right away. He taught me to talk to the picture of a man on the wall if I was ever scared.

For some reason I couldn't understand both my mother and the pastor thought I was frightened. There was never anything frightening, I remember how confusing it was to be told to be scared of something that was always there. I did learn how to look away and not see by choice but I choose to continue to see and just not discuss it. I honesty used alcohol to turn it off or down and when I sold computers to people in the early days and I could see some were financially on fire, I had to turn it off. I mostly stayed drunk.

I have never considered it a gift but it is my only clues to what others are talking about usually.

Generally I would say I see potential and make connections between these (by acting in the real world) and the result causes real world change. Nothing seems odd at all except sometimes people ask how I knew they were broke or whatever little thing I did.

My most difficult challenge is when there is anger and more than 1 person. Walked into a couple cops beating a guy who was drunk and he was fighting back, they got him down but his tiny drunk girlfriend took off her shoe and was beating the cop. It was humorous, until he took her to the ground. I almost got arrested, I just made my presence known because they hadn't seen me. The anger was so intense, I had said nothing and his first shout was "This is none of your business, unless you want to be arrested too". I risked pointing at the nearly unconscious girl and said I think she might need an ambulance as I walked away real fast.

I ran into them both later in life and got to hear the rest of their story. She eventually died from a drug overdose, he is a husband and father getting old and happy. Who knows? At the time she said I may have saved her life because the cops got nervous and did call an ambulance, but what was she saved for? Just because you help someone doesn't mean anything good comes of it, sadly that part is still up to them.

 

[EcHo EcHo]

I honestly don't think I have ever mentioned anything to anyone past feeling Kundalini energy. I have "seen" energy all my life and mentioned it only once to my mother, who took me to see the Pastor right away. He taught me to talk to the picture of a man on the wall if I was ever scared.

For some reason I couldn't understand both my mother and the pastor thought I was frightened. There was never anything frightening, I remember how confusing it was to be told to be scared of something that was always there. I did learn how to look away and not see by choice but I choose to continue to see and just not discuss it. I honesty used alcohol to turn it off or down and when I sold computers to people in the early days and I could see some were financially on fire, I had to turn it off. I mostly stayed drunk.

I have never considered it a gift but it is my only clues to what others are talking about usually.

Generally I would say I see potential and make connections between these (by acting in the real world) and the result causes real world change. Nothing seems odd at all except sometimes people ask how I knew they were broke or whatever little thing I did.

My most difficult challenge is when there is anger and more than 1 person. Walked into a couple cops beating a guy who was drunk and he was fighting back, they got him down but his tiny drunk girlfriend took off her shoe and was beating the cop. It was humorous, until he took her to the ground. I almost got arrested, I just made my presence known because they hadn't seen me. The anger was so intense, I had said nothing and his first shout was "This is none of your business, unless you want to be arrested too". I risked pointing at the nearly unconscious girl and said I think she might need an ambulance as I walked away real fast.

I ran into them both later in life and got to hear the rest of their story. She eventually died from a drug overdose, he is a husband and father getting old and happy. Who knows? At the time she said I may have saved her life because the cops got nervous and did call an ambulance, but what was she saved for? Just because you help someone doesn't mean anything good comes of it, sadly that part is still up to them.

"Nothing seems odd at all except sometimes people ask how I knew they were broke or whatever little thing I did."

You said you feel energy, which means thought(being)[soul], anything negative you feel is because of your view of what's going on, purity requires that you accept this and not showing opinion is staying pure. Although it's also not being alive, able to interact with those around you.

- "...and people dont speak just to hear themselves talk."

", I can't just open up and say "There's a negative spirit over there," can I?" - yes you can, and if you're afraid to then you must not understand yourself.

 

[Yourbaker]

You said you feel energy, which means thought(being)[soul], anything negative you feel is because of your view of what's going on, purity requires that you accept this and not showing opinion is staying pure. Although it's also not being alive, able to interact with those around you.

Opinion is created when you view a subset of reality.

My short life span and minimal acquired knowledge over that time requires I live in nothing but a sea of opinions. No living being sees the start of time to the end so we all fail at being free of opinion.

Purity cannot exist in an ever changing experience, what is pure today will be ridiculed and disdained tomorrow. Life is in the moment, sometimes in the moment you can see your opinion is wrong, it may only be wrong in this moment. Our issue as humans is we attempt to apply what was right yesteryear to tomorrows problems. We call them laws. If we could get it down to one or two it would be great.

 

[EcHo EcHo]

What is pure today will be pure tomorrow. I know you can't read the inflection in my voice, however my use of words and language was intended to show a pure example of truth, irony, and sarcasm. The sarcasm and irony cover one another up leaving only truth. Personality - who a person chooses to be - is what all people have to decide on to be in life.

 

[Yourbaker]

For me to accept the concept of purity requires no opinion and thus all things become pure and the word has no meaning.

When the fish need saving my opinions must be guided by this, when I am starving and only fish are available my opinion will change. Where does purity lie with regards to the fish?

 

[iridescentblack]

", I can't just open up and say "There's a negative spirit over there," can I?" - yes you can, and if you're afraid to then you must not understand yourself.

Now that you mention it, I was prepared to say that line to the girl who I was talking to at the time. She never outright said, "What's wrong? do you see something over there?" But I could tell she was thinking it. Fact of the matter is, it's just particulars that I'm dealing with now that keep me from free expression.

Here is a cool little experiment on magnetic fields...


I've noticed as I become more and more aware of my torus, that I can now actively turn on and/or off the different waves in my mind (Gamma, Beta, Alpha, Theta, and Delta waves). I've found that switching on and off delta waves is efficient for turning off those pesky little songs that get into my head. Delta waves are associated with deep sleep and it's often when coming out of a dream, a song will either start to play in my head even if it is one I haven't heard in years!

 

[iridescentblack]

Recently, I began to remark on how the ideas of cultivating jing, chi and shen are dictated by the same principles of how the torus flows in and out. While meditating on the cultivation of chi and shen, I began to notice that my torus was flowing in the proper way again. It could have been purely by happenstance that I was able to get it to flow the first time and I'm finding with the right medium (training/cultivating), I can get it to flow proper once again.

For those who don't know, jing is cultivated by the breath (deep belly breathing). Chi is cultivated by bringing energy up from the legs, up to about the center of the mind and it then "drops" to the heart center where "chi is stored". I'll get back to that in a bit. Shen is cultivated by bringing energy down from the upper dantian and into the heart center.

Now what's cool about the similarities between the flow of the torus and the cultivation of chi and shen is you'll notice if you watch a model of the toroidal flow, you see a representation that is very close to how they're cultivated.

Fascinating.

 

[Yourbaker]

I appreciate the simple explanation, both are things I have learned to practice, I had never looked for names. The deep breathing is a practice I use to ground myself, often a single breath at a time. Bringing, or allowing energy to flow from my legs upward often is the beginning of my meditation, a practice that helps me connect to everything.

If I stay in practice I feel much more myself and far more useful and connected to others. If I wallow in some emotional issue for too long it becomes harder or more effort involved in reconnecting, grounding and centering.

Because I waded through one religion already growing up, I decided not to read the rest, there was some good advice etc written in the first one but it was so trampled on by people with nefarious intentions I decided best to trust only what was real, provable and experiential. My partner is some variation of buddist I think but we simply don't discuss religion at all.

 

[iridescentblack]

I recently discovered that shen converts into wuji, wuji into dao. So far I cannot find sources that explain where these energies are stored, if anywhere, but have come up with my own theories. As I understand it, wuji is stored in the magnetic field/elixir and also is essentially what makes up a healthy magnetic field. Cultivation of Dao, a higher form of energy, I would assume could or would end up resulting in making up the MerKaBah, and thusly stored within it.

I have long believed, as I've been on this spiritual journey, that I would one day have an active working MerKaBah. In the process of cultivating shen, I must have cultivated some wuji, because it was during that meditation that I experienced the flow of my torus for the second time in my life. My thinking and reasoning here is rather linear, but the research I've been doing seems to suggest that bountiful amounts of wuji supply a healthy-working magnetic field.

I've seen other's magnetic fields' and often notice that they are stagnant, with their material desires somewhat anchored. When I see this, I often start to think, "If that person were to just let go of their material desires, it's almost as if their magnetic field and aura would start to bob above the earth, rather than drag" as it appears to be. Letting go of those things, I understand, is easier said than done.

I've often heard it said that if a person were to rely solely on the merkaba for guidance, they would not require as much of material possessions in order to get by. This seems somewhat misleading. Then again, I look at the health repercussions of attachments and fears and it seems sound that a MerKaBah may provide that, even for just a while.