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2-(1H-Indol-3-yl)-N-(2-methoxybenzyl)ethanamine, N-BOMe-Tryptamine HCl, TNBOMe (HCl)

Was given a sample and unsure on how to proceed with researching. Most likely will start in the microgram quantity when the time comes.
Minimal discussion has had people say it's probably not active. N-BOMe's scare me (was sold some as LSD when I was younger and tainted my opinion on them).

HNMR-Spectra pdf linked here.

Pubchem link: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/1988048
ChemSpider link: http://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.1511014.html
 
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The O lone-pairs of the methoxy in your compound overlays the O lone-pairs in LSD. The benzene ring is lipophilic and space-filling. Looks safer than the NBOMe family but still go slowly.

Now it has 4 rotatable bonds and that secondary nitrogen is unexpected but most probably tells clever people where the N: is going to bind. Also no alpha carbon so it's achiral.

I predict that adding a 7-methyl will be a very good derivative to test.
 
Yes, of course.
Sweet!! This should be really cheap and relatively easy to make.

I was wondering why they didn't make the 5-MeO version but apparently the plain N-benzyl is an antagonist. (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5308828/)

Here is an interesting article about N-benzyl-5-MeO-Tryptamines. Apparently with this series the 3 position is where it's at for substitution. With the benzyl 2-OMe only producing a head twitch response at 10 and 30 mg/kg. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4505863/)

So if this is active it might not be ultra potent like the NBOMe-PEA's. Very interesting. Please keep us informed!
 
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Sweet!! This should be really cheap and relatively easy to make.

I was wondering why they didn't make the 5-MeO version but apparently the plain N-benzyl is an antagonist. (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5308828/)

Here is an interesting article about N-benzyl-5-MeO-Tryptamines. Apparently with this series the 3 position is where it's at for substitution. With the benzyl 2-OMe only producing a head twitch response at 10 and 30 mg/kg. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4505863/)

So if this is active it might not be ultra potent like the NBOMe-2-PEA's. Very interesting. Please keep us informed!
Actually they do have 5-MeOT-NBOMe (HCl) but my guy decided not to get it.

Only have a half gram to trial. Hope it isn't tooo weak!
 
have you tried it yet?
Unfortunately not, life has been a wild roller-coaster of people around me having their lives flipped upside down.
Been on care duties for too long now!
Hopefully sometime during July I'll have free time to at least begin dosing in the lowest of low.
Let's just pray nothing else goes wrong and delay the trials
 
You still may very well be running into the same problems all of the other mono-N’-substituted tryptamines have with first-pass metabolism.

This is probably where the speculation that this would be inactive would be coming from.
 
You still may very well be running into the same problems all of the other mono-N’-substituted tryptamines have with first-pass metabolism.

This is probably where the speculation that this would be inactive would be coming from.
No you wouldn't, this is certainly resistant to MAO
Sweet!! This should be really cheap and relatively easy to make.
You know what else could be made from tryptamine? DMT — why the hell bother with this
 


I doubt it's active orally, at least without MAO inhibition but it's certainly nice to see people rejecting the 5-MeO moiety as this seems to produce pressor amine activity which is unpleasant and sometimes dangerous, even fatal side-effects.
 
Maybe cuz it’s legal? Or maybe cuz it’ll turn out to be interesting substance?

I hope we find out pretty soon is it worth it..
Well everything should be explored, but I am skeptical. There hasn't been anything interesting on the psychedelic front since Shulgin, or at the very least since the discovery of NBOMes in the early 00s

And you can't just extrapolate from phenethylamines that this compound would be even active, I don't think the tryptamine nitrogen even interacts with the same amino acid residues than the phenethylamine nitrogen
 
What evidence do you have for this statement?

Actually, no, while tertiary amines are MAO substrates, I don't think secondary amines are. So while liver enzymes will rapidly N-debenzylate (unless that ortho methoxy somehow influences things), I don't think it IS an MAO substrate.
 


I doubt it's active orally, at least without MAO inhibition but it's certainly nice to see people rejecting the 5-MeO moiety as this seems to produce pressor amine activity which is unpleasant and sometimes dangerous, even fatal side-effects.
You reckon I should be trying with an MAOI (do have some harmala/harmine sitting around somewhere)? Or vaping? I feel like I've never heard of anyone vaping NBOMe's though!
Any ROA recommendations are appreciated. Sublingual? Intranasal perhaps?
 
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