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Misc Thorazine replacement?

Schrei

Schrei

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So Ive been taking Thorazine for about a month, and now Im seeing another Dr. for a short while. He wants to get me off of the Thorazine. He gave me 20 pills, I have 10 left, so Im running out fast. :(. Any Ideas of something I can ask for after these pills are gone? Plz note, Benzos are not a option, because he knows about my past drug use.
(Even though the Ativan worked very well when they gave it to me to test, without telling me it was a benzo). Ive tried Vistaril, but it doesn't work. Any antihistamine will not work.
Any ideas will be appreciated.

BTW- I take this medicine for anxiety and bipolar(to control my outrages).
 
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Is this for sleep?

Anti-psychotics should not be prescribed for sleep.

Z-drugs soch as Zolpidem, Zopiclone, Eszopiclone might be the option here.
 
haloperidol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haloperidol

i am bipolar and take 20mg Zyprexa and 2mg haloperidol every evening, works very well for me.
i have also been on just 10mg haloperidol with no Zyprexa and it worked well alone also.
Good Luck, finding the right meds to treat our condition can be a long process but eventually you find something that works for you to stay on.. took 2 years of trial and error to get to what i take now (and the past 5 or so years) and im great where im at (mentally) now.
I think very highly of haloperidol.. cheap enough too if you have no insurance.
 
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Schrei said:
No, its for my bipolar and anxiety.

I know what Anti-psychotics are for, Im on 3 of them,.
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I guessed this because you mentioned benzos and anti-histamines.

Look into Gabapentin or Prebalin.

They are what I use for mood instability and anxiety with my bipolar.
 
Thank you both, Ill check into those.
Do you happen to know how they would do with what Im on now. Lamictal, Seroquel, and Abilify-(dropping this med, its to expensive)
 
should work same as how it works combined with my Zyprexa considering Seroquell is in the same type of drug class..
i was on lamictal (300mg/night) in combo with zyprexa, but never with haloperidol.. sorry i can't help more.
I came off lamictal and then was on zyprexa for a while alone then got my paranoia back and started with the 2mg haloperidol in addition and have been great since.
 
Schrei said:
Thank you both, Ill check into those.
Do you happen to know how they would do with what Im on now. Lamictal, Seroquel, and Abilify-(dropping this med, its to expensive)
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I've taken all three of these with gabapentin and pregabalin. They may cause mild CNS depression when mixed but that's all.

This combination is fantastic for mania/hypomania.
 
OP, you are on Thorazine, Abilify, and Seroquel? Jesus. That is a bit ridiculous IMO. Neuroleptics are not safe or healthy drugs, on the whole. They can be helpful, yes, but are detrimental to one's body and mind, and can cause irrevocable side-effects, which persist through your entire lifetime even after discontinuing them. I have, however, been on all three of those, though not ALL at the same time. I don't know all of your symptoms, and this or that, but I do know taking three neuroleptics is redundant. Taking two is heard of, as I have had experience with, but three is ridiculous. Some people are suggesting Haldol, and I suggest AGAINST it. It is extremely sedating and dysphoric, and it is more unsafe than some of the others, or at least attracts a higher incidence of side-effects.

I might suggest that you drop one of the neuroleptics, like you said you are planning on doing. That will leave you with the Seroquel and the Lamictal, and possibly the Thorazine. As far as neuroleptics go, I actually think Thorazine is a pretty good one, but shouldn't be used daily for prolonged periods of time. If you use the Thorazine as needed for anxiety/agitation, I think that is fine, so long as it isn't too frequent. If it works for you, try to reason with your doctor to keep a small PRN script. But, you need to find some cocktail of meds that will keep you well most of the time, without the need for Thorazine as a PRN. Gabapentin and pregabalin are good suggestions, though don't know how they would interact with Lamictal. They are touted to be good anti-depressants and anti-anxiety drugs around BL, although I have never tried either one. Perhaps, also an anti-depressant. Although, they can trigger manic episodes, yes, they can help relieve depression and help with manic-depression, on the whole. Prozac is a nice long-acting SSRI with no ups and downs in effect, which is about as effective as other SSRI's. I wouldn't suggest an SNRI or anything inhibiting the uptake of norepinephrine. In fact, clonidine might help (lowers levels of norepinephrine), although I'd be concerned it would be too sedating in combination with the other drugs, and could lead to hypotension. Starting a small dose might be something to consider, though.
 
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OP, you are on Thorazine, Abilify, and Seroquel? Jesus. That is a bit ridiculous IMO. Neuroleptics are not safe or healthy drugs, on the whole. They can be helpful, yes, but are detrimental to one's body and mind, and can cause irrevocable side-effects, which persist through your entire lifetime even after discontinuing them. I have, however, been on all three of those, though not ALL at the same time. I don't know all of your symptoms, and this or that, but I do know taking three neuroleptics is redundant. Taking two is heard of, as I have had experience with, but three is ridiculous. Some people are suggesting Haldol, and I suggest AGAINST it. It is extremely sedating and dysphoric, and it is more unsafe than some of the others, or at least attracts a higher incidence of side-effects.

I might suggest that you drop one of the neuroleptics, like you said you are planning on doing. That will leave you with the Seroquel and the Lamictal, and possibly the Thorazine. As far as neuroleptics go, I actually think Thorazine is a pretty good one, but shouldn't be used daily for prolonged periods of time. If you use the Thorazine as needed for anxiety/agitation, I think that is fine, so long as it isn't too frequent. If it works for you, try to reason with your doctor to keep a small PRN script. But, you need to find some cocktail of meds that will keep you well most of the time, without the need for Thorazine as a PRN. Gabapentin and pregabalin are good suggestions, though don't know how they would interact with Lamictal. They are touted to be good anti-depressants and anti-anxiety drugs around BL, although I have never tried either one. Perhaps, also an anti-depressant. Although, they can trigger manic episodes, yes, they can help relieve depression and help with manic-depression, on the whole. Prozac is a nice long-acting SSRI with no ups and downs in effect, which is about as effective as other SSRI's. I wouldn't suggest an SNRI or anything inhibiting the uptake of norepinephrine. In fact, clonidine might help (lowers levels of norepinephrine), although I'd be concerned it would be too sedating in combination with the other drugs, and could lead to hypotension. Starting a small dose might be something to consider, though.
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SSRIs induce mania in Bi-polar patients more than any other class of drugs.

If I take an SSRI I tend to be bouncing off the walls as if i've been smoking meth.
 
Alex000 you can't come into every thread about antipsychotics and preach about how bad they are, as I've said before, when the benefits outweight the risks, antipsychotics are a life saver, I've never heard of anyone's life being saved by an SSRI.
 
Alex000, my meds are fine, although the Lamictal hasn't kicked in all the way yet. and my Thorazine is a PRN, but i have such bad anxiety almost every day. But the Dr said he wants me off of it because I was put on it because of the sedation so I would stop yelling and hitting things when my anxiety turned into anger, he say it can cause withdraws, which is why im being tappered off of it.
 
tricomb said:
Alex000 you can't come into every thread about antipsychotics and preach about how bad they are, as I've said before, when the benefits outweight the risks, antipsychotics are a life saver, I've never heard of anyone's life being saved by an SSRI.
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Yes, there are times when neuroleptics can be of particular help. I never denied this. Acute psychosis (in a manic episode or otherwise), migraine, uncontrollable agitation are the few conditions that come to mind when I think of where neuroleptics are appropriate. Of course, if used very carefully, they can be helpful in the treatment of manic-depression, schizophrenia, severe anxiety disorders, and the like. Obviously, people are free to use the drugs they please, but, in this instance, I would like to point out significant risks of neuroleptics, certain neuroleptics carrying greater risks. I did not say do away with all of them right now, or TD will set in, or this or that. But, it is important it is made clear that they are not "healthy" drugs, not good for the body, and often detrimental to the mind. They are EXTREMELY over-prescribed, right along with amphetamines.

"You can't go to sleep, and are anxious when you are trying to? Let's try Seroquel." "You get so angry you cannot control yourself at times? I think Zyprexa would be a good option, to take daily." "You are depressed with some mood instability, Abilify would help." - These sorts of statements are made CONSTANTLY by psychiatrists of today. Neuroleptics are not benign drugs. In no way! As I said, yes, there is a place where they are beneficial, but these names of neuroleptics are becoming household names. It is appalling.

To the OP, I am not saying neuroleptics are definitely not for you, simply informing you of my opinion on them, and what they can do.
 
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