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Heroin Thinking of moving on to heroin.

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Lycopene

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I have IMMENSE pain. It's unbearable, yet my doctors don't give two shits. I had a prescription for Roxicodone for a while, but that was only because I had my wisdom teeth taken out. I used more than prescribed (lol 5mg every 6 hours... I have a HUGE base tolerance. 30mg didn't even get me high).

But now, I have nothing. No doctor will give me any pain meds. I have no past addictions, no abuse of medications, and I've never been in trouble with the law. I have a marijuana green card, and I live in Washington.

So, now, my main plan is to start heroin. People are telling me not to inject and just smoke it, but I want your opinion. I was only asking on 4chan. Now I'm coming here, to a much more knowledgeable and harm-prevention dedicated place.

What do I do? Do I smoke? Do I inject? I don't have very much money. Spending $300 a month on weed (which still isn't enough to cover the pain that I have. I'd smoke double that if I could) isn't feasible. Would a low dose of heroin help? Injected or smoked?



And I'm NOT asking where to buy it or if I can buy it, but I'm asking HOW to buy it. I have no idea, none at all. I've never done anything like this. I didn't start smoking weed until I got a green card at the age of 20. (I'm 23 now).

I know I don't want to "go down that path," but at this point I don't care. It's either I kill myself to get rid of this pain or find something else. My doctor's won't help, if I tell them I'd rather die than be in this pain they'd hospitalize me, and I'd rather do heroin than die. Oxycodone on the streets is expensive, heroin isn't nearly as expensive.

I just don't know any idea of how to go about getting it...

Any clues, or any answers to any of my questions? Sorry if this is unintelligible. I'm in a lot of pain now and not thinking straight.

Thanks, guys!
 
DO NOT start injecting heroin. It will ruin your life. what is causing the pain? Smoking and injecting heroin would be REALLY bad for pain management in my opinion. sniffing would be better i think. "I couldnt even get high off 30mg" maybe theres a problem that your looking to get fucked up and its not so much about pain. reconsider it all, if its legit you will eventually find a doctor who will help

edit- When i re read your post it does really come across as asking how to get dope, this site isnt here to point you towards some dope. if you know people with oc they can probably get heroin too.
 
No, I promise I'm not trying to get dope. Promise. Sending this now and editing the posts so mods don't close the thread in the meantime. I will explain.

EDIT: Ok, when I said even 30mg didn't get me high, I was meaning that 30mg would've gotten any normal opiate-naive individual high, yet not me. It didn't even really help with the pain, which is what I meant to refer to.

The pain comes from around my elbow. I broke it when I was five and it went to hell from there. It gets worse daily.

Also, why is insufflation the best bet in your opinion? Why better than smoking or injecting?
 
So why don't you try to go to a pain clinic? If you have a legit injury with documentation it shouldn't be a problem.
 
That's the problem. I HAVE done all of this. They think I'm drug seeking. I'm not. I've been specifically told that I am drug seeking. It's bullshit.

And just to add, I am a serious drug noob. I know a lot about them, but I have never done them or gone about trying to get them. I go to a marijuana dispensary for my marijuana. Again, I promise I'm not seeking. I just don't know anything. I did read the rules, by the way.
 
The only legitimate way to get a handle on your situation is find a compassionate doctor. I'm sure you have been searching and this sounds unsympathetic but really, heroin will only be a temporary fix and down the road your pain will only become one of many problems. This is just my opinion but you need to find a doctor who can help you. That's the only real way out of your unfortunate situation, which I am very sorry to hear of. Chronic pain is something I do not experience and I feel majorly grateful for. I cannot imagine how difficult it must be. But doing heroin will not help you in the long term.
 
You've gone to a clinic with MRI's or X-rays and a recombination from a doctor to a pain clinic? Your age somewhat of a issue. A lot of these places are going to be wary of accepting someone who is 20 years old unless they have some sort of life threatening or terminal illness. That being said DynoSpec is correct, if there is a legit reason a clinic will eventually accept you. Currently on disability or anything for your injury? I'd be wary about getting on opiates so early in life, not to diminish your situation but it will lead to you 10 years down the road being totally dependent on fent patches and crazy breakthrough meds.
 
The fact that you're looking at starting heroin as a solution.. is crazy. Plenty of people are in pain everyday for numerous horrible conditions and they don't decide to go pick up a heroin habit.

All you'll be doing is causing yourself way more pain and suffering in the long run, much worse than what you feel now, despite how bad you think your pain is.

I mean, do I really have to list all the reasons why starting to do heroin is a horrible idea? Reading this literally made my jaw drop.
 
deltakappamu said:
I would strongly advise against any decision to begin heroin.

If you have never tried heroin, you have no idea how lucky you are.
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^ This. It's a slippery slope. It'll work for the pain not gonna lie to you. But tolerance is a cruel bitch. You'll start to need more and more to not only keep the pain away but the sickness. Having trouble paying for your weed? Wait till your up to 40$ a shot. ( I got up to 80) and that only keeps it away till you need your next shot 6-12 hours later. Don't do it.
 
JD55 said:
^ This. It's a slippery slope. It'll work for the pain not gonna lie to you. But tolerance is a cruel bitch. You'll start to need more and more to not only keep the pain away but the sickness. Having trouble paying for your weed? Wait till your up to 40$ a shot. ( I got up to 80) and that only keeps it away till you need your next shot 6-12 hours later. Don't do it.
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Exactly. Not only will you go broke after your tolerance skyrockets, you'll have to contend with the horrible withdrawals as well as your normal pain.. Then your number one priority will be doing whatever it takes to get enough money to chase away the sickness, forget about killing any real pain. This is hands down the worst idea ever.
 
Sure, let me disclose some information.

Here are my problems:

-Severe anxiety/paranoia
-Schizophrenia or psychotic depression (I don't have many of the hugely disabling affects of schizophrenia. Just anhedonia, paranoia, trouble dealing with people, and hallucinations)
-Chronic pain in my arm

I have had MRIs, CTs, EEGs, I've seen Neurologists and other specialists, including pain specialists. I've had cortisone injections in my elbow, and more.

I am on SSI, yes, I just don't like telling people because they judge me as a tax-payer abuser looking for drugs... I just want relief.
 
Lycopene said:
Sure, let me disclose some information.

Here are my problems:

-Severe anxiety/paranoia
-Schizophrenia or psychotic depression (I don't have many of the hugely disabling affects of schizophrenia. Just anhedonia, paranoia, trouble dealing with people, and hallucinations)
-Chronic pain in my arm

I have had MRIs, CTs, EEGs, I've seen Neurologists and other specialists, including pain specialists. I've had cortisone injections in my elbow, and more.

I am on SSI, yes, I just don't like telling people because they judge me as a tax-payer abuser looking for drugs... I just want relief.
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You need to keep going to doctors and specialists until you find one that will help you. You need to be professionally evaluated and medicated. If you have legit pain, and proof of it, it doesn't make sense why a doctor would refuse you.. especially on top of your other disorders which hopefully you're being medicated for already.

Do you really wanna add "heroin addict" to that list of problems you just posted? You're going to regret this decision if you make it guaranteed.
 
Ok, first off, I came here with an idea. I have no other way. Are any of you suffering from chronic pain? I literally cry every day, and this is after dealing with it since I was five (23 now). I just don't want you guys to get mad or think I'm stupid. I didn't jump right into it. I came here, a harm-reduction site, for advice. Isn't that well thought out?

If no doctor will give me pain meds, and there's literally nothing to help, then what else so I do? Die? Because that's the next step.
 
Lycopene said:
Ok, first off, I came here with an idea. I have no other way. Are any of you suffering from chronic pain? I literally cry every day, and this is after dealing with it since I was five (23 now). I just don't want you guys to get mad or think I'm stupid. I didn't jump right into it. I came here, a harm-reduction site, for advice. Isn't that well thought out?

If no doctor will give me pain meds, and there's literally nothing to help, then what else so I do? Die? Because that's the next step.
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We have an entire megathread for people suffering with chronic pain.. people with very serious and painful conditions. Turning to heroin isn't what a rational person would consider an option.. I'm sorry to be harsh but, come on..

Here is a link to the PMM mega. Pain Management Megathread
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
You need to keep going to doctors and specialists until you find one that will help you. You need to be professionally evaluated and medicated. If you have legit pain, and proof of it, it doesn't make sense why a doctor would refuse you.. especially on top of your other disorders which hopefully you're being medicated for already.

Do you really wanna add "heroin addict" to that list of problems you just posted? You're going to regret this decision if you make it guaranteed.
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I have 40mg Valium a day, and I handle the schizophrenia myself as it gave me tardive myoclonus and tardive dystonia. Done with antipsychotics. I do not want to add it, no. But I don't want to live with this pain. It's not living.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
We have an entire megathread for people suffering with chronic pain.. people with very serious and painful conditions. Turning to heroin isn't what a rational person would consider an option.. I'm sorry to be harsh but, come on..

Here is a link to the PMM mega. Pain Management Megathread
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I'm NOT rational right now. I'm in a tremendous amount of pain. I'll give that thread a look. Thanks. (:
 
Lycopene said:
I have 40mg Valium a day, and I handle the schizophrenia myself as it gave me tardive myoclonus and tardive dystonia. Done with antipsychotics. I do not want to add it, no. But I don't want to live with this pain. It's not living.
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How many doctors have you tried to see before giving up and deciding heroin or death is the only option..? Also, I hate to say this... but self medicating for serious mental health issues can be really bad and also could be playing a large role in your decision making abilities..
 
Lycopene said:
Over fifty. This is no joke. I have been doing it my whole life, in Nevada, Georgia, and Washington.
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It just doesn't make sense. Something is just not adding up. If you have real pain and documented proof of it there is no reason why a doctor would turn you away. Have you talked to your primary doctor about this? What doctor have you been seeing all these years to treat your pain..?
 
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