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Theosophy & Planes of Existence

Beefy

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Hi. I was doing a bit of research on the topic of planes of existence and it seems like it is shared by many other eastern religions as well.
I always find it fascinating when a subject so complex as this, crosses cultures and traditions hundreds or even thousands of years ago.
Is anyone studying Theosophy or Planes of existence and have anything to say about the subject? I'd like to hear what people
think and have to say about it. And what spiritual school/philosophies they feel most interesting or fascinating. :)
Thanks
 
Theosophy, I think, is the spiritual/philosophical system I think makes the most sense (apart from some strains of Gnostic Christianity). It's surely a very intelligent and complex spiritual science. I don't like all the leading figures behind Theosophy (like Blavatsky) but I like many who were inspired by it.

At least it was the first thing I could get into.
 
Yes! That I can also agree with you. It is a very complex system. My BF is VERY much into it. he has been studying it since he was 15 and he's 43 now. So he has about a dozen Theosophy books, but they're more for those who already know the basics or the core of Theosophy. I want to find a book (I haven't asked him yet) about Theosophy, like Theosophy 101. I think it's a very interesting concept that Jesus and all the other leading figures of each religion were all teachers/masters who came to earth to show a little bit of the truth about spiritualism. and that god is within us all always and/or we can be our own god. I have to read up further on what Theosophy says about that.
 
I belive everybody wants to know:
1. Who/what am I
2. How did I get here
3. Where did I come from
4. Where am I going/ should I be be doing anything to get there

These all fall under a Theosophical worldview
The harder you search for meaning the more
"devoted" you are.
 
So he has about a dozen Theosophy books, but they're more for those who already know the basics or the core of Theosophy.

Have you read the Alice Bailey series yet?

I tried to get through it when I was 18. It was tough.
 
I have little experience with theosophy but I have read into anthroposophy, founded by a theosophist who broke away from the movement and formed his own thing. While it appears compelling on the surface, and while Steiner hd a lot of precociously progressive ideas, the deeper I went into it the more I found it was absolute rubbish. Prescriptive dogma and borderline psychotic superstition under a shallow veneer of critical thinking and scientific methodology. I can't comment on theosophy, but it hasn't given me much confidence.

Especially considering the whole debacle with Krishnamurti. Who was we can now say with 20/20 hindsight was, while a very wise and interesting man, certainly not the second coming of Jesus Christ.
 
No offence, but you sound like someone who's too self-centred to find meaning in any belief-system or teaching, or would always have something to object no matter what someone had to say.
 
I can be tactless in my appraisal of things that have meaning to other people, so I apologise for causing offence. When I think something's silly or misguided, I'll say so, often without giving thought to how people might feel about it. I do so expecting the same in return because if the criticism is valid, I can use it, and if it isn't, it doesn't affect me.

There was a point, around the age you were when you started exploring beyond the bounds of agnostic and atheistic thinking, where I ascribed myself to a belief system and deeply trusted a man who turned out to be a fraud. After that, I explored multiple occultist and spiritual disciplines to varying degrees. They all had a few things in common.

One was that they always had something valuable to impart, if you were willing to listen.

Another was that, sadly, most of the people who chose to identify with a school of thought tended to take it as a package. Meaning they took the good with the bad. And, in so doing, often missed the point of the good as well.

In other words, I'm unconvinced of the value of ascribing to someone else's teachings. Why not hear what they have to say, think about it, try things, see if they work and adjust your own model accordingly? The irony is that the more valuable ideas of the teachers in question tended to advocate exactly that. Like Rudolf Steiner. But unfortunately, while he advocated questioning his doctrines and experimenting with his methods yourself, the reality was people just took everything he said on faith. And that's how you end up with followers. And - especially after the founder dies - stagnation.

And then... politics.

Of course, that's anthroposophy and I can't make an educated statement about theosophy - which, by the way, I am curious to explore. I have my reservations due to past experience and associative expectations, but I'm sure there are valuable things in the teachings.

EDIT: Also don't mean to claim you or anyone else in this thread IS one of those said dogmatic followers. You clearly found occultist mysticism useful. My experiences were generally less rewarding. Though not universally so.
 
The way your rants came accross to me was more like...

"Me, me, me...how I feel...me...don't appreciate being made to feel inferior...can't relate to all this...at least I should come out superior...don't like to submit myself to any system...just look at all those flaws...not up to my standards...has no meaning for me...would rather pick and choose and create my own truth" etc.

I can also do comedy. But that's because I have an open heart. If you don't have a heart people won't laugh because it will be so spiteful.
 
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