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The Stock Market

GenericMind

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Do any other Bluelighters plan to invest heavily in the market in the near future? This market plunge has created so many insanely cheap quality stocks that I have little doubt I can put some money into them now, wait 20 years, and retire before I'm 50.
 
GenericMind said:
Do any other Bluelighters plan to invest heavily in the market in the near future? This market plunge has created so many insanely cheap quality stocks that I have little doubt I can put some money into them now, wait 20 years, and retire before I'm 50.
Bingo buy low sell high. There's all kinds of crazy prices out there now. We were just on the bottom and now everything is soaring. The trick is when do you sell? Don't get out too early and baby boy hang in there bro we all got fucked no sense in selling nothing just try and reinvest like the rest of us in some of these killer deals
 
I'm not sure we've hit bottom quite yet. If we have we're probably going to stay there for a little bit. People lose their money trying to play the ups and downs. They should take an opportunity like this, which only happens a couple times a lifetime, and buy quality bluechip stocks that are going to be around for decades. If you could resist the temptation to sell anything you buy now for 10 or 20 years you'll be set.
 
Also, as if an opportunity like this wasn't enough to get into the market, the Federal government has suspended all taxes on capital gains and divdend earnings through at least 2010 if you make below $32,550 single or $65,100 married. That means you pay ZERO taxes on capital gains or dividends. I don't even thing that's ever happened before.
 
Ya well I hear ya but the Dow is going up not down. In the US anyway the bailout greatly improved the market. Your completely right though things will stabilize following the spike and plateu for a while I'm just not sure if it will be as low as it just was. Also I'm from boston I don't know where your from but here 32500 is a bit below average and most don't reap the benefits. I don't mean to belittle you but if your as young as I think you are you really got your shit toghether. I think I saw you were like 20 somewhere, kudos dude keep hustling playa
 
i don't know crap about the market, but it seems to me that if we're in this situation now, there's no guarantee that it won't happen again when you're at retirement age. so i think it's a good idea to have a variety of retirement investments. i've always been lucky though, in that my parents were aggressive about having my brother and me buy stocks with our b-day/x-mas money when we were little. and my brother is very financially responsible, so he pretty much advises me on everything in my clueless adulthood.
 
Johnny blue said:
Ya well I hear ya but the Dow is going up not down.

It went down almost 800 points today. The S&P went down more than the black Monday '87 market crash.

It's true that something like this isn't guaranteed to happen when you're near retirement. The thing is that crashes like this don't happen often and even when they do, they don't last very long. As long as you're not hardset into absolutely having to retire in a specific 1-5 year period of your life, you can simply wait it out even if it did happen.
 
To be perfectly honest one of my best friends is a financial advisor so I got the hook-up there. Playing the stock market game isn't necessarily about long term investment, just guessing but your parents probably had you in mutual funds or something like that.
 
Hell noes. 10 years ago I caught shit from so many people for not opening a 401k and an IRA and all that other shit they told you to do in the 90's. Now I get to listen to those same people bitch and moan about how their 401k isn't worth shit and all the money they lost. At least I got to frivolously spend my money on ale and whores and we're both in the same position as before.
 
Play both sides of the fence, forget about "investing in the market." It's not even worth doing unless you're conservative and plan on holding onto a portfolio for the next 100 years. That's just boring.

If you're serious about making money, and want to bet big, the upcoming months are very important. First, the election of Obama will cause consumer confidence to rise prematurely since people think he's captain planet. So expect a decent end of november and december false bull market with regard to companies like apple and research in motion (you know, the guys that make shit that people don't really need but buy anyways when they have just enough money to put it on layaway - which Obama will give them the confidence to do).

During this same time period, expect the remaining big banks Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to rise and fall ridiculously on a daily/weekly basis. No stocks are trading on fundamentals right now - sort of like how they weren't trading on fundamentals during the bull market in late 2007. The difference is that the market is completely unpredictable at the moment, whereas in 2007 all you had to do to make money was buy call options the day before certain firms released their earnings reports. The best strategy right now is to to pick out which companies are potential takeover targets since every company is dirt cheap atm. Then, from that list, pick some companies that you think might be completely fucked. Buy and short accordingly, and invest in long term options (i.e. those that expire in April 2009) to prevent yourself from losing more than 30% if your research and analysis proves to be weak.

Now's an awesome time in the market, if you ask me. Great time to get involved, but think beyond "buying stocks." That's what old people do.
 
vibr8tor said:
i don't know crap about the market, but it seems to me that if we're in this situation now, there's no guarantee that it won't happen again when you're at retirement age. so i think it's a good idea to have a variety of retirement investments. i've always been lucky though, in that my parents were aggressive about having my brother and me buy stocks with our b-day/x-mas money when we were little. and my brother is very financially responsible, so he pretty much advises me on everything in my clueless adulthood.
you are like me. i pride myself on being somewhat intelligent but i can't for the life of me grasp anything about my stocks. lol i bought a finance for dummies book years ago and can't even get through that.

my son, thanks to a deceased mother who left him a decent inheritence....has a large stock portfolio, but i am so afraid to look at it right now. he won' tbe touching it for many years, and i am confident it will come back, but the vision of seeing it decline in a great way is terrifying none the less.

gm, socking a lot of funds away right now in such a shitty market is a good idea. i am so stupid i didn't even think of it. why aren't the news stations and market experts mentioning this every time they discuss the terrible current state?
 
If I had money to pour in, I'd be pouring it all into the strock market right now.
 
Shit, even if you could only scrape together $100 it'd be worth it. Sign up for a sharebuilder or scottrade account and have at it. You can get 5 shares of Morgan Stanley for that much right now, a stock that pays decent dividends and was trading at around $90 a share less than a year ago.
 
in that my parents were aggressive about having my brother and me buy stocks with our b-day/x-mas money when we were little

Parents forcing kids to spend birthday and christmas money on the stock market is bizzare and probably a little wrong.
 
I lost $20,000 in the past 9 months. Last month, I switched 40% into bonds instead of 100% stocks. I have to remind myself that it is money I don't really have, I am not near retirement, and it will get better. I will reassess in 6 months.
 
Lysis said:
Hell noes. 10 years ago I caught shit from so many people for not opening a 401k and an IRA and all that other shit they told you to do in the 90's. Now I get to listen to those same people bitch and moan about how their 401k isn't worth shit and all the money they lost. At least I got to frivolously spend my money on ale and whores and we're both in the same position as before.

Except that in a few years their investments will recover.

I'm with GM; long-term investments could be a good idea right now. I suspect we haven't hit the bottom yet: we've seen a big fall based on the problems in the banks, but we haven't fully seen the decline that the recession will cause.

(I can see what captainballs is saying, but personally I'm not knowledgeable enough to get into all that).
 
I have recently invested about 1,000 in the stock market, i only lost about 345 dollars so far, but i'm not going to jump the bandwagon and take all my money out quite yet, i will if mccain gets elected though.
 
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