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The "smack" tab myth

His Name Is Frank

His Name Is Frank

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I literally want to strangle every person who insists that there is heroin in some pills. The more you tell them there isn't,the more pissed off they get. Which,in turn,pisses me off even more. I try to explain to them that it would not be feesable to put an expensive drug like heroin in a tab when it generally takes between 1 to 3 cents per tab to make. My question is,what is the substance called that gives these idiots that "smacked" out feeling in the first place,because it dam sure isn't heroin.
 
The substance is MDMA probably. MDMA used to make me writhe with pleasure, people just think ecstasy makes you go go go, up and all hyper but MDMA very often makes people 'smack out'.
 
yeah dont bother arguing. actually kids here in my are of toronto say cuz they have some Ketamine in their pill that they are on "heroinish E pills"

most likely because they have never done K and just assume this must of course be heroin
 
People don't like to admit they're wrong about these things, it's embarassing for them and so it should be but not if they don't know any better. But I suppose if they don't know the correct facts, they shouldn't be passing on the false information to other people.
 
It's like the "strychnine in acid" urban myth that was going around when I was interested in such things. Back around when mastodons walked the earth.

They have found fentanyl in "X" pills, however.
 
HisNameIsFrank said:
My question is,what is the substance called that gives these idiots that "smacked" out feeling in the first place,because it dam sure isn't heroin.
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As a general rule larger doses of mdma can provide a sit on your ass type roll that many mistake for heroin apparently.

However its important to note that what is a small dose to you may be a large dose to the next person.

Everyones bodies work differently.
 
My question is said:
It could be the way the pills are made. Starting with different precursors, left over reagents still in the pills, ect. There are also two different isomers of mdma. Both are created during synthesis almost equally but i've wondered if more of one or the other would effent the feeling. Just a guess though.
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There's a definate difference between the two isomers. My experience was with the racemic mixture. Separating them is not impossible. Not easy, though.
 
So would you say one might give you a more chilled out roll, and another a more peppy one? Or is that totally on set/setting? (or size of dose)

This is assuming it's pure mdma.
 
cosmicdancer said:
like they'd go to the expense of using £1 worth of herion for a 30p pill (trade price)
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My point exactly,but you can't tell a know-it-all something they don't already know. I had this conversation with a guy just a couple of days ago and he all but called me a liar. I told him that I've had this conversation with about 1,000 people and I wasn't about to have it again. I am so tired of trying to inform those who don't want to be informed. And the real pisser is that 95% of these people swearing that they are indeed smack tabs have never even tried heroin.
 
Isn't the bio-availability for heroin poor if taken orally anyways???

At any rate, the cost ratio in order for a manufacturer to produce E pills with H in them wouldn't make sense in my eyes.
 
yeh i have noticed that most people that claim it's in there have never done h. maybe it makes them feel special or something or maybe they are stupid and think 'oh its brown so it must be'.
 
i recently heard that ketamine may also contribute to the "smacky" effect but i was led to believe that the smackier the pill the more MDMA content it has in it making it a 'cleaner pill'. This is the main reason why i usually try and roll off smacky pills. Does anyone know the difference between MDMA smacky and Ketamine smacky? im still relatively new to the MDMA scene
 
usdathashield said:
yeah dont bother arguing. actually kids here in my are of toronto say cuz they have some Ketamine in their pill that they are on "heroinish E pills"

most likely because they have never done K and just assume this must of course be heroin
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I'd say the ketamine myth is just as abundant as the heroin one.

In my experience people who say they have heroin or ketamine in their pills usually tend to actually have MDA.
 
gotta love ignorance. thank god for bluelight. when i first did mdma about 14 years ago, those big tabs with the brown specks were popular, and we all believed it was heroin. i used to say how those were the only ones i would vomit on, and blame the heroin.
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Yeah stupid people piss me off... Every rave I hear the same thing about smacky pills and ketamine in pills when I know what pills most people are on and know they are clean. Last night for instance people were all on clean ass pills but I am hearing people talk about smackyness, etc. And yeah fuck trying to educate them they don't wanna hear it.
 
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