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kitten9966

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I have suffered depression, anxiety, PTSD, chronic physical pain and insomnia my entire life. In my quest to self-medicate I have become acquianted with pretty much every psychoactive "solution" legal and otherwise. I have been taking sleep aids since childhood and I am thirtysomething. In my mid teens I went the "better living through chemistry" route and have been masking my depression/insecurity/neurosis/pain any way i can. I want out of this vicious cycle, the only meds that really work well and make me feel ok the next day are physically addictive. My worst anxiety and depression always occurs when i am laying down to sleep, and without meds my mind is like a loud radio station, I am plagued by repetitive invasive thoughts of sad stressful things like death and poverty and the panic becomes physical, my guts feel like they are twisting and the more i try to deep breathe, relax, the more insistent the images and worries become until the sun comes up and I am immobilized but awake and wracked with despair :( 8( :! I can go days without sleep, totally sober, if i dont take something. Right now I am dependent on pain meds and benzos and I've had it. Even melatonin has become habit forming for me. I want to get off and just get the cold sweats and DT's over with so I can try to live clean, go to meetings for support if need be, and get into a regular excersize routine and maybe get back my creativity, lose the drug weight and get back some self esteem along with a good job hopefully. Employers balk when they see i'm on synthetic heroin so when the drug test comes regardless of how great the interview they never call me again; there is alot of prejudice and misconceptions that pain patients face, no matter how you try to sugar coat it methadone is regarded as a junkie drug by society at large. It is the lesser of 2 evils for pain patients who want to get off oxys and has helped millions, but I am done with being dependent on a pill to function like a normal human being. Seeing how i suffer "amotivational syndrome" with dysthymia (AKA feel dead and apathetic all the time--recognized as a relatively common side effect of methadone) I'm not even functioning as a normal person.
The only problem is I dont have any friends or support network where i have moved and my husband (who is not an addict and said he is sick of hearing me talk about this stuff) is gone all day every day so I am pretty much left idle all day. I know what happens when i go off these meds without any structure and nothing to fill the chasm. The next month is my detox month. I become almost suicidally depressed, socially withdrawn, cold sweats for months on end, and the likelihood of feeling so raw and edgy that i eventually break down and substitute with booze is probable and a pattern i have struggled with for a long time. I cant afford fancy therapists or rehabs, and the fact that i am going off methadone is a touchy and controversial topic in NA/AA, most disapprove of m. maintenance and benzodiazepines, are ex junkies who secretly crave them, or are totally ignorant of the special problems it poses for the recovering addict. I need to talk to someone that knows about methadone/xanax and that i can trust. I dont even feel safe mentioning them in meetings because those are drugs of choice for some addicts and could trigger a desire to relapse using any means possible including theft, deception, or even an opportunistic "slip" from someone who means well but breaks down at the sight of my medicine cabinet. Ive seen it happen. Ive seen sponsors with years of recovery put in temptations path and months later you see them pimping out their former sponsee so they can get their fix. NA/AA help millions but I dont like meetings.There are exceptions but in general I dont like alot of the people there. I dont want to be like them. I did it for 5 years, gung ho, and relapsed armed with new ways to be a better addict from the constant war stories and descriptions of how/when/where to get stuff. I'd like to find people who are rooted in the solution rather than romanticizing the past and one-upping who did the most drugs. Anyways, sorry about the novel, I am a very expressive and overly wordy type writer, I tend to just let my flow of thoughts fall onto the page. Writing is another thing i need to get back to. Ive been in a terrible rut and feel like the drugs are stifling my creativity as well as destroying my memory. Its like i have early dementia, i cant remember names, facts, simple words, and events. If anyone out there can relate to my little hell i would like to start networking with healthy people who can share their "experience, strength and hope". BTW i hate 12 step slogans they come across as insincere especially when thats all someone does is parrot lines from the big book. I relate better to people who just keep it real and tell me how they got through it or those who are in the process like me. Doing it online and finding email buddies or whatever is at least a step in the right direction. I'm not sure if the moderators mind but just to see where I can find the most insight i am going to copy this post to other threads/topics. Thanks for listening and well wishes to all......
~kitten~
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i am more or less the same person as you except back in the teen years. i have found the solution but cant stick too it cuz i have no self control over drug cravings.

work out all the stress. i lift a ton of weights and you can just push out the pain. its a great feeling... an amazing life high. meditation can help a lot but i have ADD so its really hard to do. also sexual activity is another great way for me to stop my head from going to crazy.

so live healthy. eat healthy. meditate. excersize. vent to BL or anyone you can trust. go find to the middle of nowhere and just scream out your frustration and shit.
 
hmmm short answer for now.

if you are in chronic pain you should responsibly take what makes you feel like participating in life, the same for gad, or a chronic anxiety disorder. for such an anxiety disorder, xanax is an awful idea aways, that just going to harbor a frenzy of unwanted dangerous mania, where it should not be.

there are other groups besides aa, they are hard to find, but many state run psych clinics have groups for people with mental disorders and substance abuse problems. for me aa meetings are more triggering then a bar, or being around friends drinking.

i guess it brings up stuff from my past, i can feel the tension, selfloathing, fakers, desperation etc.
 
Kitten...
I was amazed reading your post! I feel like a kindred spirit! I struggle with anxiety and depression along with OCD...which is a straight path to self-loathing, guilt and loneliness. My husband is a total straight arrow and very type A in personality...work, work, work, then run marathons and exercise when he is in his "down" time!
I have mornings that I don't even want to get out of bed and my only productive feelings usually come from writing!
My husband loves me and I love him, too, but we are so different in personalities that he really can't understand my emotional chaos and addictive tendencies. I know how it feels to lay in bed at night and just be afraid!! My husband is usually snoring before 5 minutes has passed. I wish I could be the same.
I have been under the care of three different psychiatrists and 2 therapists for the past 12 years and even spent 6 weeks at a hospital during a really bad depression experience after losing a baby. Having your stomach pumped is NOT an ordeal that I wish on anyone.
I have been on at least 12-15 different "approved" meds over the past 12 years and nothing has made me feel like my "old" self when I was younger and ready for anything. I hate being afraid of everything all the time and years of talking things out with doctors has not been helpful to me, at all. Maybe it works for some people, but I left my last psychiatrist because she told me that she couldn't help me if I wasn't willing to divorce my husband. Reasons: mostly just his type A personality overwhelming my type Z personality. Emotional abuse and some physical abuse over the past 20 years of marriage. I guess you can get used to anything.

I don't know why I'm telling you all of this...I don't even know you, but your words touched me and I wanted you to know that you are not alone.
For me, I self-medicate with opiods...I know that is wrong, but it is really the only thing that makes me feel like going through the day. Sleep meds prescribed by my doctor at night usually knock me out after about an hour of laying in bed worrying. My husband wants me to go to bed at the same time that he does, but I hate lying there...I know the awful thoughts are coming and I am praying for the benzos to kick in every night!
jojo
 
My aim is zyggyBL. I struggle with many of the things that you do. Shoot me a message and we can go from there. It's late, I'm tired so that's all I'm gonna say here but just wanted to say I am interested in talking.
 

hmmm short answer for now.

if you are in chronic pain you should responsibly take what makes you feel like participating in life, the same for gad, or a chronic anxiety disorder. for such an anxiety disorder, xanax is an awful idea aways, that just going to harbor a frenzy of unwanted dangerous mania, where it should not be.

there are other groups besides aa, they are hard to find, but many state run psych clinics have groups for people with mental disorders and substance abuse problems. for me aa meetings are more triggering then a bar, or being around friends drinking.

i guess it brings up stuff from my past, i can feel the tension, selfloathing, fakers, desperation etc.

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Thanks for the reply, thats a good idea to make some calls to the different health departments in the region and see what kind of sliding scale options there are. I know what you mean about the past haunting you. When i first went to NA i was pretty emotionally retarded and learned as a young child the art of suppressing feelings and turning off my vulnerable thoughts like a switch. I was a cold cruel bitch. That rhymes :D Anyways, my first time getting clean was from street drugs; smack, meth, coke, E, weed, etc. After 5 years of just going through the motions, never doing stepwork or talking in meetings i moved to drug heaven (FL)relapsed, and my habits evolved towards legal drugs. The legal ones are much more sinister, and where i live they are ubiquitous. Pain Clinics on every corner. Like you i have noticed that now i am older and if i dont anesthesize myself i am vulnerable to the horrors and emotional fallout of the severe trauma i suffered as a kid. Its heavy shit that lasted a long time and i tried to drown it mentally but now the bloated corpse of those hideous years is resurfacing and its so fucking sad and pathetic just the sight of a childhood pic sends me spiraling. I fucking hate facebook. Fuckers. I went to a private school 1-12 grade and got roped into being friends with all these kids i grew up with, figured what the hell i never look at that dumb site. The week i graduated was the week i turned 18 and could legally split and have never looked back. Now on facebook there are these 4th and 2nd grade pics of me and at the sight of them I just wanted to set someone on fire. And that is on a moderate dose of meds. WD from methadone brings depression blacker than the entrance to Hell. I cant go to meetings. I used to just sit silent and stoic, for years. Now i wouldnt be able to help but let out some low wail of misery and run from the room I know it.
As far as pain goes, i'm getting into Reiki, Zen Buddhist meditation and yoga. That, neurontin, and a heated pool is fine. My physical pain pales in comparison to the emotional bloody mess I have to face and work through. Its going to take awhile and suck. My husband has no clue what he's in for-i'm already high maintenance and i'm a zombie now. He's never seen me off all substances. Should be interesting....lol
 
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