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The most comforting thing...

swilow

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I think a lot of people (well, I hope I'm not alone here) have certain ideas, almost like totems, which they reach for in times of crisis, either spiritual, existential, mental, physical, etc. Things that get you through the night. Things that are like a light in the darkness. They may be small things and usually are, but they usually have a strong personal resonance, and to the observer, can explain a lot about an individuals inner world.

One of mine is the Pale Blue Dot photograph, which serves two almost contradictory purposes. To me, this makes all my personal suffering and grief (and, believe me, my life so far has run utterly rife with this stuff) fade. In the midst of drug withdrawal, in pain and fear, the idea of the smallness of earth, the smallness of me, the smallness of my own pain, has enabled me to keep moving, knowing that the pain, whilst it feels enormous, is only so to me and my narrow awareness. Wasting my time dreading the pain and avoiding it is pointless; it would be the same being on fire and not walking those 5 steps to the ocean for fear of burning the sand. The pain is still painful, but meaningless and truer because of that.

THE SECOND PURPOSE OF THE PALE BLUE DOT-
Looking with horror back over my life and with no idea how to make things work, and with a fatalistic WISDOM that my existence never will work, that its too difficult, and I think of how my life, though small and meaningless, is my ONLY life ever, no dress rehersals, this is it right now and its worth going to the uptmost extremes to preserve and fulfil. Its all happening in the blink of an eye on a rock that might very well not exist anywhere else, and this fragility and pregant possibilty makes me keep going and moving onwards and upwards :)

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars"- Oscar Wilde. Thats what I am doing, what I have always been doing.

Music is a great totem. I find that you can almost imprint certain music with meaning; for example, Infected Mushroom- Elation Station allows a total sensory recall of some of the most poignant experieces I had, at a moment in my early twenties when I myself was hope incarnate <3; falling in love, expanding my mind, caring for people, being cared for, facing the dark world- this song has given me hope because, in the blackest days of no hope, I've been able to recall times when everything was okay; and the memory of hope and peace has born the RAMPANT DESIRE to return to these times, and inspired me to make my life good again. Its not there yet, but it will be, I know it; it was once, and therefore, it can be again.

Lastly, my spiritual totem; though I believe all of these comforting things have spiritual roots, this one is a painting by indigenous australians in a cave in Kakadu (Australia). It looks like a 8 armed beetle or alien creature, though I've never reasearched what it really is. I first saw this painting when I was about 13 and I remember hearing a though "Yeah, we've definitely been here before" and this experience was deeply mystical, the strongest spiritual experience I've ever had and almost the most alien; the thought I had didn't orginate in my own mind, but it sort of thought itself. It was as if for a moment, I was actually thinking in my own mind with the depths of wisdom held only in the collective unconscious or a product of the Demiurge. I felt like my awaresness had brushed against the awareness of another sentience and I had felt at home there. I no longer felt lonely and looking at this painting enableds me to relive this experience, albeit in a much lower degree of intensity. Since then, all of my own peak spiritual expereinces either though psychedelics, meditation, ceremonial magick or gnostic ritualism have been unwittingly imprinted onto this picture (or me onto it?). It is a source of strength and wisdom that I will always cherish because it doesn't seem to fade.

Anyhow, I've written an awful lot, but I would love for people to share any of their own totems. Some of these things are contagious and point to an underlying common nature behind all of life and, if such things can truly help us in dark times, they are worthy of being shared, discussed and put to use. Peace...:)
 
There's an almond tree outside at my folks house, it's remained the same for the last 20 years and quite possibly many years before i first saw it as two year old. For me it stands as a testament of time, its leaves wither away as autumn approaches, it stands naked amongst the cold of winter before blossoming as spring dawns and finally radiating with flourishing leaves as the light of summer commences, and yet it remains.

It was there during my happiest moments and my darkest hours, and much like this almond tree i may go through cycles of change but who i am always remains. When i look out upon it, it's like gazing through a mirror of myself over time.. reminding me of all the changes that have taken place over the course of my life and yet my awareness of the tree remains the same as it did all those years ago. It stands as an example of the peaceful silence amongst all the chaos.
 
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Brooding? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhx9JqZaNI0
Like an ego death? kindof. If I'm having a really bad time I'll hole up in my room. or a corner. or somewhere away from everyone. listen to evil music. think about all the horrible things going on in the world. horrible ways to die. dead rotting corpses. the one mistake I can never forgive myself for. killing myself. how to kill myself. who killing myself would effect. how much I'd like for that to happen. how fucked the world is. How many wonderful people die horrid painful deaths. and eventually I fall alsleep or I crack back to being neutral. or happy sometimes.
 
^Whatever helps you. I don't see any gain in succumbing to overly negative thoughts, but I'd say the same about overly positive thoughts. Both emotional extremes can cause delusion.

For me, the 'totem' is something that brings you out of delusions. I guess that wallowing in them, as you are doing hiphophippy, might help to exorcise delusions but I think that cutting through with honesty and truth is wiser. You could base your whole life on a response to negativity but it won't ever be truly real.
 
^Whatever helps you. I don't see any gain in succumbing to overly negative thoughts, but I'd say the same about overly positive thoughts. Both emotional extremes can cause delusion.

For me, the 'totem' is something that brings you out of delusions. I guess that wallowing in them, as you are doing hiphophippy, might help to exorcise delusions but I think that cutting through with honesty and truth is wiser. You could base your whole life on a response to negativity but it won't ever be truly real.

Response to negative stimuli in favor of positive stimuli is the basis of human nature. Void and destruction the majority and future of all things. Accepting "negativity" and impending destruction (death) is paramount to many religions. especially the esoteric ones. Surrounding myself with negativity reminds me of how inherently positive I am. The honesty and truth is nothing matters. life on earth will eventually die the sun will consume the earth and die and eventually the universe will collapse in on itself and die as well. Then it will explode out and the cycle begins anew.
 
^It seems to amount to a pointless duality but each to their own...It seems a pity to only find truth in opposites. Unless you are actually aware that most opposites are actually the same.

Either way, this isn't what the thread is about.
Its about this:

malakaix said:
There's an almond tree outside at my folks house, it's remained the same for the last 20 years and quite possibly many years before i first saw it as two year old. For me it stands as a testament of time, its leaves wither away as autumn approaches, it stands naked amongst the cold of winter before blossoming as spring dawns and finally radiating with flourishing leaves as the light of summer commences, and yet it remains.

It was there during my happiest moments and my darkest hours, and much like this almond tree i may go through cycles of change but who i am always remains. When i look out upon it, it's like gazing through a mirror of myself over time.. reminding me of all the changes that have taken place over the course of my life and yet my awareness of the tree remains the same as it did all those years ago. It stands as an example of the peaceful silence amongst all the chaos.

An aspect of the world which is allegorical to an inner state (or vice versa). Like finding a material translation of peace (or vice versa).
 
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For example I've been thinking about killing myself the most seriously in a while. Went to a funeral today relished in the demeanor of everyone and now I feel better.
 
I guess that wallowing in them, as you are doing hiphophippy, might help to exorcise delusions but I think that cutting through with honesty and truth is wiser. You could base your whole life on a response to negativity but it won't ever be truly real.

i can relate to hiphophippy. i get incredibly morbid at times. and even if i'm not being morbid, knowing i will die one day is pretty much the only thing that takes away the feeling that i need to die right now. knowing that everything will one day come to an end helps me get through current difficulties. i panic at the thought of an afterlife. when i feel like that i feel like i'm giving myself the resolve to cope with things, not wallowing.

i do find music incredibly comforting. i still get that teenage 'wow these people totally understand me' feelings of validation etc from it, and a lot of music i listen to has v positive messages from realistic stances.
 
I can see how extreme negativity could be cathartic...I guess. For me though, I've moved on from my depression and panic (by and large) and, while it taught me something, the resolving of it taught me more. I find it relatively difficult to delude myself, which is what extreme negativity is (for me).
 
i can relate to hiphophippy. i get incredibly morbid at times. and even if i'm not being morbid, knowing i will die one day is pretty much the only thing that takes away the feeling that i need to die right now. knowing that everything will one day come to an end helps me get through current difficulties. i panic at the thought of an afterlife. when i feel like that i feel like i'm giving myself the resolve to cope with things, not wallowing.

i do find music incredibly comforting. i still get that teenage 'wow these people totally understand me' feelings of validation etc from it, and a lot of music i listen to has v positive messages from realistic stances.

I'm not afraid of death, so I have few reasons to stay alive.
 
The way i experienced and learned things in my time is that sometimes we have to go through the most shitty, strange, scary things to see the way we were suppose to. like having depression or panic attacks, it forces us to look at things from different angles. like that saying goes what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
 
I found comfort in the ever-present 3. Call it the trinity, democracy, sacred geometry, the illumination, the machine, whatever you want. It's gotten me up and moving though.
 
Willow11 would be a totem of sorts <3

Nature in general, ephemeral stuff like the wind on my face the water that passes ceaselessly of the stones of the riverbed, the clouds morphing eternally, the storms of the sea & the gentle breaking of the waves on a peaceful ocean shore, the light that smiles a persons eyes & one or two imaginary visions - non corporeal icons I suppose they are.

Dinner when I'm hungry - which is now - goodbye slurp burp munch
 
Not a single reference to sex? Damn. Sexual activities are the one thing that makes being human make sense to me. Everything else in life is a bit confusing or a bit of a struggle, but once I'm sexually engaged, it's like, "Ah, yes... this is why I'm alive. It all makes sense now."

There are other facets of sexuality that aren't actually sex that give me motivation. Things like power, respect, etc, all improve my confidence and mood when gained, and are all extensions of sexuality in the sense that they provide sexual utility. If I had children, seeing them be successful would give me satisfaction in the same vein.
 
^ You've a point - I chose to think from a point of aloneness because I thought that was what the OP was driving at. Sex is great yet there are aspects of it which aren't soothing, in some ways sex is like drugs or food in others it is more spiritual - for want of a better word - I wouldn't class drugs or food as truly comforting yet sex I could do - but only sometimes.


Things that are like a light in the darkness. They may be small things and usually are, but they usually have a strong personal resonance, and to the observer, can explain a lot about an individuals inner world.

I find that part interesting, how would the observor begin to explain the subjects inner world and to what end - an example would be appreciated.
 
For me, autumn light and spring light. I have always been really moved by the light when it is slanting--seasonal affective disorder in a good way?:) In the fall I am deeply appreciative of sadness and transience. In the spring I am full of love for the duality in the strength and fragility of new life and the feeling of alignment with the eternal. Winters I just hunker down and summers go by in a flash of hedonism but fall and spring usually slow me down and connect me with the bigger picture:)

And I would have to say water. Nothing comforts me like the ocean.

And art. Either me making it or me appreciating someone else making it--from painting to music to poetry to dance. Hearing/seeing/doing/being creation.

And cats. Singly or in small herds.

I'd better stop and let someone else go; my list is growing by the second!=D
 
I've not felt that comfortable with sex ever really. For such an intimate experience, I find it isolating in a weird sort of way. There seems to be a lot of selfishness and discrete violence involved in sex to me at least. I've never enjoyed sleeping with lots of different girls to be honest; I only want to do it with someone I trust completely who knows me well. Its a result of childhood experiences, and doesn't bother me, though it makes me feel a bit awkwards.

z9 said:
I find that part interesting, how would the observor begin to explain the subjects inner world and to what end - an example would be appreciated.

I have a friend who is a pretty macho guy, drinks to excess, likes fighting, never discusses his feelings, and yet he is an avid gardener and puts a lot of work into his garden, to the point where it is perfectly manicured, lots of different types of plants and lots of colour. If he didn't do this, I'd have no way of knowing that he is actually very gentle, caring and nurturing. When he sits in his garden, or works on it, its the only time he seems to drop all the extraneous nonsense, relaxes and is himself. I've seen him argue with his girlfriend, and storm out of the house furious and slamming doors, and begin pulling out weeds and hosing plants, and then becoming relaxed and reasonable. To him, the garden is his pride and joy, its the thing that comforts him and its the place where he goes to get away from the world. So despite his somewhat crude exterior, I can see his calm inner world when he goes into his garden. If I didn't ever witness this, I would just assume that he is as his exterior presents.

Did that make sense?

:)
 
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