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The Great Debate: Hydrocodone or Oxycodone?

RodJonse

RodJonse

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I'm sitting here atm drunk on valium (didn't drink any alcohol, I just think the benzo high is better described as drunkeness) because I'm out of my hydrocodone. Won't be getting any from the pain clinic for a week or so.

Anyways, I've been reading a lot about Rx opiates including what many people have to say about them. It seems that most people tend to accept Oxycodone as being the best. Personally having tried both Oxycodone and Hydrocodone, I've long since adopted the Hydros as my drug of choice. I find it odd that they're less popular to some degree. The Oxy high for me is more of a relaxed, weighted high. I'm totally content, but I wish it were more exciting. The Hydro high is a bit different of a beast. There's just this FIRE to it that Oxy doesn't seem to have. It's upbeat and energizing, almost as if it were a stimulant. Both produce incredible euphoria obviously, I think that's something most people can agree on, but I personally much prefer the energizing feeling that Hydros give me over the "I just want to sit on the couch and do nothing" feeling Oxys give me.

So, what do you prefer?
 
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Hehe, only newbies talk about opiates like wine- get enough of a tolerance and it's all just 'good junk' or 'trash that doesn't do anything'.


Enjoy hydro while you can, but oxy is better simply because it's stronger & comes in bigger pills. Nothing more than that really.

Subjectively morphine/heroin is 'better' than any synthetic, but it's pretty fucking hard to tell them apart. It's all just about the dosage. If you can get high off hydros you'll defend them, if your tolerance is a certain level hydros are worse than useless- theyre a fucking TEASE and useless.
 
I miss hydro like an old lover. It just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I so wish they made 160mg Hydrocodone pills, no APAP. Would love that.
 
Blind Melon said:
I miss hydro like an old lover. It just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I so wish they made 160mg Hydrocodone pills, no APAP. Would love that.
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Exactly. If pure powders of all this crap were easily available people might develop 'wine preference' type opinions (if opiates were legal Id rock the pantopon and dipropanone rather than heroin, for example) but under prohibition it's all about price/availability/strength.

So heroin wins every time because it's as strong as oxy per mg- but any fuckwit can get it together and score a gram of smack- and almost regardless of purity it's gonna be a better deal than trying to buy fucking oxy 80s.
 
limonov said:
Hehe, only newbies talk about opiates like wine- get enough of a tolerance and it's all just 'good junk' or 'trash that doesn't do anything'.


Enjoy hydro while you can, but oxy is better simply because it's stronger & comes in bigger pills. Nothing more than that really.

Subjectively morphine/heroin is 'better' than any synthetic, but it's pretty fucking hard to tell them apart. It's all just about the dosage. If you can get high off hydros you'll defend them, if your tolerance is a certain level hydros are worse than useless- theyre a fucking TEASE and useless.
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I think I'll be enjoying hydro for as long as I continue to use opiates. Not really a newbie because I've taken many different types of opioids (probably 5 different types of opiates) for many years now, but I've kept my usage of opiates strictly to occasional binges with good time in between for my tolerance to go back down. (I guess moderation is rare around here?) I find it hard to believe hydros would be useless, can't you CWE a lot of them? Or are you saying that it's just not worth it to go to that trouble when you can just get an Oxy 80?

As for morphine being better than any synthetic, I think I'd definitely disagree...I find both hydro and oxy to be stronger and enjoyable than morphine. As for H, I would agree, but not to a huge extent mainly because I've only ever smoked it. I figured if I were going to IV something I would go for the best, and I was told that apparently hydromorphone was the best for IV rush wise. Needless to say, I was not disappointed...but it hit me like a brick because like I said, my tolerance isn't incredibly high.

Blind Melon said:
I miss hydro like an old lover. It just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I so wish they made 160mg Hydrocodone pills, no APAP. Would love that.
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Yeah, I hear you. I mean I'm not in your same circumstances but I figure it must suck that it doesn't do anything for you anymore. I'm gonna try as hard as I can and make sure it doesn't happen to me, because I do quite prefer the slightly different high.
 
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Blind Melon said:
I miss hydro like an old lover. It just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I so wish they made 160mg Hydrocodone pills, no APAP. Would love that.
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I can get those sometimes, a buddy of mine knows where to get them, but they're unmarked and feel just like hydros. If they had even 100mg of APAP each I'd probably have died of liver failure by now.

Feelsgoodman.

Still prefer junk.

Edit: To be more on topic I guess, I prefer hydro to oxy, but nothing beats some good dope, unless it's cut with fent. Can't stand that shit.
 
RodJonse said:
I think I'll be enjoying hydro for as long as I continue to use opiates. Not really a newbie because I've taken many different types of opioids (probably 5 different types of opiates) for many years now, but I've kept my usage of opiates strictly to occasional binges with good time in between for my tolerance to go back down. (I guess moderation is rare around here?) I find it hard to believe hydros would be useless, can't you CWE a lot of them? Or are you saying that it's just not worth it to go to that trouble when you can just get an Oxy 80?

As for morphine being better than any synthetic, I think I'd definitely disagree...I find both hydro and oxy to be stronger and enjoyable than morphine. As for H, I would agree, but not to a huge extent mainly because I've only ever smoked it. I figured if I were going to IV something I would go for the best, and I was told that apparently hydromorphone was the best for IV rush wise. Needless to say, I was not disappointed...but it hit me like a brick because like I said, my tolerance isn't incredibly high.



Yeah, I hear you. I mean I'm not in your same circumstances but I figure it must suck that it doesn't do anything for you anymore. I'm gonna try as hard as I can and make sure it doesn't happen to me, because I do quite prefer the slightly different high.
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The major point you are missing is the fact that most opiod users, if not now presently, eventually will inject their drugs. It's a whole other ball game then, you can't compare oral morphine to oral anything because it is shit. IV though is a different story, a lot of people like the histamine rush, but going from 20-30% bioavailability to 100% is obviously going to make the drug morphine regarded a little higher, don't you think?
 
opi8 said:
The major point you are missing is the fact that most opiod users, if not now presently, eventually will inject their drugs. It's a whole other ball game then, you can't compare oral morphine to oral anything because it is shit. IV though is a different story, a lot of people like the histamine rush, but going from 20-30% bioavailability to 100% is obviously going to make the drug morphine regarded a little higher, don't you think?
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I understand that. My point mainly though is if that is the situation someone is in at this moment, my question probably doesn't apply to them. At least I would think people would be able to answer from a retrsopective stance.

And yeah, oral morphine is garbage. It's odd that oral [most other opiates] can be good (even if they're not as good as IV), but morphine can't for whatever reason.

I actually had IV'd morphine as well. I don't like to mention it because it didn't impress me in the slightest like the hydromorphone did, but perhaps I didn't have enough.

I won't probably ever know because I don't want to inject again even though it was amazing. I don't want to go down that road, I know where it leads.
 
RodJonse said:
I understand that. My point mainly though is if that is the situation someone is in at this moment, my question probably doesn't apply to them. At least I would think people would be able to answer from a retrsopective stance.

And yeah, oral morphine is garbage. It's odd that oral [most other opiates] can be good (even if they're not as good as IV), but morphine can't for whatever reason.

I actually had IV'd morphine as well. I don't like to mention it because it didn't impress me in the slightest like the hydromorphone did, but perhaps I didn't have enough.

I won't probably ever know because I don't want to inject again even though it was amazing. I don't want to go down that road, I know where it leads.
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I think your asking this question to the wrong type of people man. This question is better suited to occasional user's who sometimes raid a friends parents medicine cabinet or something along those lines. A lot of hardcore addict's/dependants in DC don't think you'll get the answer you want. Personally I'd like to give hydro a try if it were around (out of curiousity) but would I swap any of my daily oxy script for it, no.
 
Whosajiggawaaa said:
I think your asking this question to the wrong type of people man. This question is better suited to occasional user's who sometimes raid a friends parents medicine cabinet or something along those lines. A lot of hardcore addict's/dependants in DC don't think you'll get the answer you want. Personally I'd like to give hydro a try if it were around (out of curiousity) but would I swap any of my daily oxy script for it, no.
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No, it's fine.

If someone prefers whatever because of whatever reason, that's the exact answer I'm looking for.



Unfortunately it's not around. My experience with it (and probably the reason I prefer it) comes from a unusual source that managed to get me a shitload of them. They come with APAP so they have to be cold water extracted. They're good, really fucking good (to me at least), but provided you'd be able to get enough to extract enough for your tolerance, and if you're a regular oxy user then that's just probably not gonna happen.

Also man, it's pretty much either here or Drugs-Forum...and I'm not going to that shithole.
 
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For someone with a tolerance hydrocodones are a lot more work. You need a lot of pills and then you would need to do a cold water extraction otherwise you'd be risking liver damage before you even got close to a good high.

I've only had a few experiences with it where I was able to get high on it. It was definitely a good opiate high, but the fact that I had to take orally whereas if I got some IR oxy's or the old OCs I could have railed them, which is more of what I was into when I first started.
 
Fuck hydros... I remember being that stupid noob of a sixteen year old getting high on vics and lortab... didn't cold water extract at first and I remember going to the doctors... my doctor was like wtf?! Your liver enzymes are pretty high. Yep. Didnt practice that HR. Anyways I fell in love with oxycodone and I always would pick oxycodone even if I had a low tolerance. I prefer the high and not having to do the cold water extractions.

But I could easily say fuck both of these and just pick heroin if it was a choice.
 
Man ive never done pills,but id like to.Im new the site btw,.I heard the people who do oxy'suusally end up on heroin.
 
Bigfanofthemdrugs said:
Heroin.
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Yeah, well the thing is I can't go to my pain clinic and ask for heroin.

Did get some oxycodone just tonight. They're only 5mg. I took 3 and I'm still disappointed about how much less exhilarating the high is. Maybe it's just me. 8)


I guess if they made 100mg Hydros with no APAP some of you guys might know what I'm talking about.
 
With no Opiate tolerance, Ive gotten a nice energetic buzz from 7.5mg of Oxycodone. Ymmv.


Ill take Oxy to have fun, Hydrocodone to get fucked up (granted I have to take more of that).

PS. Editing thread title to make it more clear. At first glance, some people could think Oxy = Oxymorphone and Hydro = Hydromorphone.
 
Spackeradder said:
Now see there's your issue. 15mg is barely a buzz.

Not that I've done hydro, just Oxy.
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No, that's not my issue particularly. My opiate tolerance right now is where the equivalent dose of hydro would have given me some pep. That's what I'm saying. I accept that obviously for people with high tolerance, hydrocodone just isn't an option anymore, but honestly with low enough tolerance that it still works well it seems to work better than an equal dose of oxy...at least for me.

If you ever get the opportunity to get a bunch of hydros, I recommend it just to try it. Take whatever would be an equivalent dose to your oxy dose, cold water extract the APAP out and drink it up. For the most part they're very similar but truthfully it is a different high, it has this fiery quality that I can't describe to it.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Anyone with a low tolerance from moderation or anyone that can remember back to their early days if they tried both hydro and oxy? Certainly I can't be the only one who got that fiery sensation.
 
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