Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DET Thread

[Esperighanto]

How would people here advise combining ethocin with other compounds (especially other psychedelics) to make it less boring?

 

[Pfafffed]

I actually quite liked it on its own. I enjoyed its character, especially compared to things like 4-HO-DiPT.

 

[Listening]

What did you take? No way we can tell, but you can send them off for analysis if you want to know for sure.

Unfortunately, most labs won't be able to ID what's in a gummy, and I don't have the spare cash that would be required for the ones that do.

I've used pure ethocin, and it's ambiguous enough to where I'd likely have a tough time telling it apart from just a low dose of other 4-substituted tryptamines.

Interesting that you're saying that... My first thought was "this isn't even a tryptamine" but obviously I can't really know that. Still, doesn't seem at all similar to any of the tryptamines that I'm very familiar with (4-aco-dmt, 4-pro-dmt, 4-ho-met, 4-aco-mipt)...

4-ACO-MET or 4-HO-MET? No way of knowing but those are both very gentle. "Clear and mellow" as you described

Nope. FWIW, I don't find 4-ho-met to be particularly clear/mellow but perhaps I'm anomalous. Fun and easy, yes, but not clear-headed for me.

 

[Didgital]

Unfortunately, most labs won't be able to ID what's in a gummy,

Why do you say this? you dissolve the gummy in water basify and then extract with a non polar solvent like ethyl acetate. The process is a little more intense than say testing a powder, but it's still very simple, especially in regards to identification. Quantifying what's actually in the gummy is definitely harder.

 

[Esperighanto]

Why do you say this? you dissolve the gummy in water basify and then extract with a non polar solvent like ethyl acetate. The process is a little more intense than say testing a powder, but it's still very simple, especially in regards to identification. Quantifying what's actually in the gummy is definitely harder.

Tragically many labs just refuse to do this amount of work, despite how minimal it is. Many of these recent gummies too have tested negative for any indoles upon extraction which I find strange, makes me wonder what's in them. Experience reports are highly entactogenic, makes me wonder if a small amount of a benzofuran is in there or something, idk.

 

[Listening]

Why do you say this? you dissolve the gummy in water basify and then extract with a non polar solvent like ethyl acetate. The process is a little more intense than say testing a powder, but it's still very simple, especially in regards to identification. Quantifying what's actually in the gummy is definitely harder.

Admittedly I'm limiting myself to the almost free (by donation) Canadian lab that does FTIR. I'm know other labs could do better. They have tested many gummies and most (all?) turned up nothing which is surely a limitation of their method/equipment.

Tragically many labs just refuse to do this amount of work, despite how minimal it is. Many of these recent gummies too have tested negative for any indoles upon extraction which I find strange, makes me wonder what's in them. Experience reports are highly entactogenic, makes me wonder if a small amount of a benzofuran is in there or something, idk.

Oh that's pretty interesting. In my test though I had strong first alerts at 10 minutes which I assume would rule out a benzofuran? I've never done any so I couldn't comment one way or the other about comparison to what I took.

What I did notice was that what I took was surprisingly light on the visuals, which is unusual for me with most psychedelics...

 

[Esperighanto]

Oh that's pretty interesting. In my test though I had strong first alerts at 10 minutes which I assume would rule out a benzofuran? I've never done any so I couldn't comment one way or the other about comparison to what I took.

6-APB took something like 60-90 minutes to finish coming up, with first alerts ~45-60 minutes after oral administration. Intranasally it was faster, but really stressed my heart to an extensive degree, I had this whacked out batch that was widely reported by other users on that DNM as being overwhelmingly active ~75mg, with threshold doses as low as 5-10mg, but reagent tests, drugsdata's mass spec, and experienced effects all aligned with 6-APB. To this day I think back on that as a highly peculiar batch of an RC.