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Ubi

Ubi

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How do I put this. Big sigh, I am wondering if we on a Global level are 'feeling' the rate of change in our natural World surrounding, and I mean 'feeling' it; sensing it is out of control....
I am wondering how many of us stick our heads in the sands because to take it all in is simply too much for the average human heart to bare and this is understandable OR do you take action in ways that you can.

I know we are busy with our lives, our families and often have little energy left to do much of anything else but when Governments of Man dangle veils of deceptions to take our minds and hearts off of the issues that will affect us the most now and in the near future like Air quality, Water supplies, clean dirt to grow with, I ask you, why would we allow that to happen when we have so much power in numbers. Have we forgotten our basic human needs to survive on an elemental level, have we?
I am very curious to read what people's takes are on this subject.

kindly,
Ubi
 
It's not the whole world, it's the western world, which is currently in decay. The colonial brainwashing is coming to its natural conclusion.

Of all the places I've been in the world, Russia and China had the happiest, most stable people. Nowhere is without social problems, but I believe the next seat of civilization will be in that part of the world. That's why the west propagandizes them so much.
 
Interesting it will be to see where we are in say, 100 years from now. I must maintain hope that we will wake up and rather than looking to our right or left to see how other's react, we will look within and react accordingly.

I know we'll always have social bumps, we are human after all. Agree full well with the brainwash agendas.

and to us that are young and still under our parents roof, well, don't underestimate your pull. One day you and your peers will be running aspects of Countries. A blink of the eye away.
 
a mixture of sorts and depends on the size as well as the climate i would imagine. Why?, making one?
 
I work with a lot of children and young people and I have been doing so for over thirty years. There is a level of despair about the planet, species of birds and mammals and ocean creatures etc, that I did not see in the very young a couple of decades ago.

In the adult world I agree with you that it is so overwhelming that the mind simply shuts down and looks for distraction.
 
Agreed herbavore, a coping mechanism no doubt to shut it off as when we bring it in, it's simply too much to bare isn't it. Indeed.

big sigh. Parts of the oceans filled like plastic soup. Skeletons of sea birds found filled with plastic pellets, caps, debris and yet, we throw, throw that shite away without a care so it seems more often than not.

But I have hope too Herb. I know what your talking about in the younger generations. They are caring and knowing more so than us of past generations.
I have hope and i'll keep that going.

Just think, one day, vertical farms will be common in major City Centres; houses outfitted to collect rain water, compost bins in every back yard, every apartment building with roof gardens, major manufacturers using something that 'does' break down and all of us, doing our part. It'll help. I have to believe it will.

have a great day. thanks for offering your two cents to this thread; I am oh so curious what people are thinking about our World.
 
^ I remember shortly after I gave birth to my first child in 1988, I was talking to an old friend that had done civil disobedience events with me in the past around nuclear power plants. I was telling her that almost from the moment of my son's birth I had been unable to participate in politics, read the reams of environmental journals and articles that I normally read, watch news of any sort, etc. I told her that I could not reconcile my terror and raw vulnerability at having brought such an innocent and pure new being into such a mess. It was as if all my fiery optimism of the past had gone up in flames and I was left with a handful of ash--a new and unfamiliar pessimism. She looked at me in horror and said, "The most important job of any generation of parents is to maintain hope, to model hope and to instill hope." I have never forgotten her words.
 
Ubi said:
But I have hope too Herb. I know what your talking about in the younger generations. They are caring and knowing more so than us of past generations.
I have hope and i'll keep that going.
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I imagine some people thought the same about the boomers when they were younger. Personally I don't see much hope. Too much greed, corruption, and faith in materialism. The only thing that will shake this is either a catastrophe or some new jesus popping into existence.
 
Maybe. But I'm talking about the little ones still riding bikes with training wheels having a better understanding of the need for environmental harmony;
when they grow up, I believe, they'll have way more compassion and care for the Grand Wee Globe. More so than my generation and more so than the Boomers.

and while yes, a catastrophe does bring us together, let's hope it won't come to that.

I had a dream once of the EArth shaking us off and we lost our bodies and inhabited old plastic toys and plead to stay on her crumbles.

I hope that never happens; but I'd understand why
 
"You only live once"~~~~



I like to do cool things like recycle when it's convenient for me.
 
herbavore said:
^ I remember shortly after I gave birth to my first child in 1988, I was talking to an old friend that had done civil disobedience events with me in the past around nuclear power plants. I was telling her that almost from the moment of my son's birth I had been unable to participate in politics, read the reams of environmental journals and articles that I normally read, watch news of any sort, etc. I told her that I could not reconcile my terror and raw vulnerability at having brought such an innocent and pure new being into such a mess. It was as if all my fiery optimism of the past had gone up in flames and I was left with a handful of ash--a new and unfamiliar pessimism. She looked at me in horror and said, "The most important job of any generation of parents is to maintain hope, to model hope and to instill hope." I have never forgotten her words.
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couldn't agree with you more and applaud your efforts to regain a sense of hope for our future generations, one of those people being your own child and blessings on the house regarding this.

It is not easy to keep a level of optimism when the news comes on is it? yet, personally, when I look around I see nothing but mostly goodness and positive good people.

Keep the hope alive.
Congrats on being a parent and in more ways that I, being a part of that 'hope'

warm regards and all the best for you and yours.
 
Foreigner said:
It's not the whole world, it's the western world, which is currently in decay. The colonial brainwashing is coming to its natural conclusion.

Of all the places I've been in the world, Russia and China had the happiest, most stable people. Nowhere is without social problems, but I believe the next seat of civilization will be in that part of the world. That's why the west propagandizes them so much.
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1) It is not the whole world that's destroying the environment, only the western part.

2) The western world and its way of life are in decay.

3) This is the expected conclusion of colonial brainwashing.

4) I've been to many places in the world and feel my experience is very representative, and the time I spent in Russia and China is very statistically significant even if not all that extensive, and I can claim these countries have the happiest, most stable people of all. I've been most anywhere, and of that i'm sure.

5) Any part of the world has social problems.

6) The main world power in the future will be in the russian-chinese asian side of the world.

7) This is why the west propagandizes this so much.

8 ) Are any of the above points not baseless speculation, meaningless outdated jargon, historical fallacies and ridiculous factual inaccuracies?

Answer: Number 5 isn't.
 
Right on SexnCandy. So uh, what would be your opinion on how 'we' over yonder in the West can do a better job?
What's your take on simple things like community's supporting community's. ie. locally grown foods, backyard chickens, collecting rainwater off our roofs, nano technologies improving for solar power collections as well as harnessing the winds? Think if enough of us got into this, we'd have an impact? Meaning, less of an impact on the so called 'grids'?

really wondering what thoughts are on this for people. Lots of us here. Surely we have power in numbers.

I keep hoping that one day every house will have some stationary bike they'll have to ride if they want to power up any of their stuff like tv's or pc's. things like that.
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
What sort of wasteland do you think we OUGHT to be striving for?
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There is nothing wrong with 'Hope'. Nothing changes overnight in people. Generations get set in their ways and that's allot to go up against especially when we have multi billionaire brothers ie. The Koch Brothers buying elections and ruling the Worlds supplies via corporate bullying.

This is the age of the Consumer as well let us not forget that.
I do not live in the States. I'm sure we could all take a good man apart as we all have our flaws but I choose to believe in the goodness of man. I think our powers lie in our hearts. Naive? perhaps. But i'll take having 'hope' over giving up any day.
 
Ubi said:
I keep hoping that one day every house will have some stationary bike they'll have to ride if they want to power up any of their stuff like tv's or pc's. things like that.
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How much cycling will it take to power your average television? How much food has to be grown to fuel a human to be able to cycle for a few hours a day?

Ubi said:
What's your take on simple things like community's supporting community's. ie. locally grown foods, backyard chickens, collecting rainwater off our roofs, nano technologies improving for solar power collections as well as harnessing the winds? Think if enough of us got into this, we'd have an impact? Meaning, less of an impact on the so called 'grids'?
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Unfortunately I went full doom a recently and can see no solution that doesn't involve horrible suffering for the majority of humanity or Ninae's alien invasion complete with carbon sequestration technology from the Gods.

Derek Jensen mentioned once that people don't hope for outcomes that are within their control, but only those outcomes out of their control. So effectively hope is useless for achieving anything. Best use action as an antidote to despair.
 
@ubi

I think that's all great, but it does take quite a bit of work and isn't convenient. With advances in technology it might become much easier to live in a more sustainable way. It wouldn't really have a considerable worldwide impact, even if millions of people were doing it. Most people are too selfish and care a lot more about the money in their pockets and convenience than about any of these issues. The majority of people in the world are poor and just want to get more money or up to a reasonable standard of living, and sustainability is usually not an issue to them.
 
I agree, most people are poor and only wish to feel their babies, have shelter from the storms.
But, what if we had no choice? What if 'shit' (pardon the expression) truly hit our global fans and systems went down. Do you think 'we' as a species would rebuild the old way or tap into something new and improved?
 
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