Testosterone replacement therapy

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So i just got off the phone with my doctor and apparently my test levels are low. This was unexpected as i managed to pack on quite abit of muscle this past year and a half with just using whey protein. I am either getting the gel form of test or the injection whichever is the cheaper option. I am thinking the fucking zyprexa i am on is fucking with my hormones.

I have to admit i am way out of my depth here as i dont know a whole lot about performance enhancing drugs. Is there anything in particular that i have to watch out for when taking test? I guess the side effects i am most worried about are going bald and testicular shrinkage. I think i may have already have gotten some minor testicular shrinkage when i was on invega or abilify or maybe im just being paranoid and imaging it. My sex drive was non existant for about 2 fucking long years though because of invega and abilify. Both are poison.

How much will TRT help in my goal to get jacked? Can i work out harder with test then without it? I am kind of looking at this as a blessing now because i can get a legal prescription for test now lol. If its good enough for robert kennedy its good enough for me i guess
 
There's depot shots of 250 mg which you take monthly, and gel sachets of 40.5 mg which you apply to your skin daily. The shots are more effective in terms of absorption. Price depends.

The thing is that HRT is literally to correct a hormone imbalance and should NOT be used for performance enhancement purposes, as side effects are unpredictable. Excess testosterone (above normal male range) also puts you at increased risk of cardiac issues and stroke. You will need regular blood work in order to check your levels.
 
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TheUltimateFixx said:
There's depot shots of 250 mg which you take monthly, and gel sachets of 40.5 mg which you apply to your skin daily. The shots are more effective in terms of absorption. Price depends.

The thing is that HRT is literally to correct a hormone imbalance and should NOT be used for performance enhancement purposes, as side effects are unpredictable. Excess testosterone (above normal male range) also puts you at increased risk of cardiac issues and stroke. You will need regular blood work in order to check your levels.
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I checked online and the shots are covered not the gel so most likely im getting the shots. Ill know monday when i call the pharmacy. The dose for TRT is lower then for anabolic purposes i think so i shouldnt get many side effects i guess?
 
I'm almost 58 & been on Sustanon for 8 years at 125mg twice weekly, without any undesirable side effects. I still have a decent head of hair although it has thinned a little since my youth, but I'm pretty sure this is common for most men. Also, I have'nt noticed any noticeable testicular shrinkage (never had huge balls anyway)

It's certainly been a positive thing for me & I have no wish to stop anytime soon. Lean mass & strength is up, as is energy & libido. Also, I generally sleep really well
 
maoriwarrior said:
I'm almost 58 & been on Sustanon for 8 years at 125mg twice weekly, without any undesirable side effects. I still have a decent head of hair although it has thinned a little since my youth, but I'm pretty sure this is common for most men. Also, I have'nt noticed any noticeable testicular shrinkage (never had huge balls anyway)

It's certainly been a positive thing for me & I have no wish to stop anytime soon. Lean mass & strength is up, as is energy & libido. Also, I generally sleep really well
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Good to hear that your 58 and still have hair. Im 42 so hopefully i wont go bald either lol. Dont worry if your getting abit of thinning hair at your age thats normal.

If your only getting positives theres no need to give it up certainly. I plan on lifting alot of weights and getting jacked. I already put on 30lbs of muscle with only protein powder
 
Best luck, if you need any further questions answered I'm happy to help (based on my own anecdotal evidence of course)
 
Got my testosterone today. It's testosterone cypinate and im prescribed 150mg's bi weekely. The pharmacist made out like injecting this is a big deal but ill try and get the pharmacist here to inject me with it and if they cant ill have to do it myself. We will soon have to fucking diy everything in this province cause we have no in person doctors anymore.

Is this a good dose to start with and what is the usual dose anyway?
 
paranoid android said:
Got my testosterone today. It's testosterone cypinate and im prescribed 150mg's bi weekely. The pharmacist made out like injecting this is a big deal but ill try and get the pharmacist here to inject me with it and if they cant ill have to do it myself. We will soon have to fucking diy everything in this province cause we have no in person doctors anymore.

Is this a good dose to start with and what is the usual dose anyway?
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Is that 150mg twice a week or 150mg every other week? If it's the former, then yes that's a fairly high (for TRT purposes) dose but if it's the latter its a low to standard dose
 
It's 150mg's every 2 weeks so a standard dose i guess? I may have to give myself the injection as the nurses up here no longer administer injections. Like wtf?
 
paranoid android said:
It's 150mg's every 2 weeks so a standard dose i guess? I may have to give myself the injection as the nurses up here no longer administer injections. Like wtf?
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Ok, once you get used to pinning, it's really no biggie... I do mine into the outer upper portion of the glute, alternating between left & right sides
 
paranoid android said:
Just did my first injection. Test is a bitch to get in the needle though
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Try warming the vial prior to extraction, warm water will suffice..
Fill with a blue or green, and inject with a 1" long orange needle 25G (I think)..

Have you considered Progesterone only applied to the inside of your lips.? Applied to skin wont work as it gets converted to a useless metabolite.
Apparently that's a new method of TRT to induce higher levels of natural testosterone, via Progesterone.
 
Genetic Freak said:
Try warming the vial prior to extraction, warm water will suffice..
Fill with a blue or green, and inject with a 1" long orange needle 25G (I think)..

Have you considered Progesterone only applied to the inside of your lips.? Applied to skin wont work as it gets converted to a useless metabolite.
Apparently that's a new method of TRT to induce higher levels of natural testosterone, via Progesterone.
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Awesome thanks for the tip! I havent heard of progesterone being used thats a new one for me.
 
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Genetic Freak said:
Have you considered Progesterone only applied to the inside of your lips.? Applied to skin wont work as it gets converted to a useless metabolite.
Apparently that's a new method of TRT to induce higher levels of natural testosterone, via Progesterone
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Can you provide any sources with info?
I'm very curious, but can only come up with info about women's HRT :|

@Genetic Freak
 
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I was diagnosed low T about 9 months ago and currently I'm taking 100mg testosterone cypionate IM, once weekly. As per your goal of getting jacked, I can say that just through normal daily living, without even taking the time to work out period, I noticed my body over time sort of "reorganizing," and toning up, muscle groups shifting and swelling slightly, so I surely can't see it hurting your goal.

Like Genetic Freak said, I fill with an 18g and administer with a 25, certainly makes the draw way easier.
 
Psychlone Jack said:
I was diagnosed low T about 9 months ago and currently I'm taking 100mg testosterone cypionate IM, once weekly. As per your goal of getting jacked, I can say that just through normal daily living, without even taking the time to work out period, I noticed my body over time sort of "reorganizing," and toning up, muscle groups shifting and swelling slightly, so I surely can't see it hurting your goal.

Like Genetic Freak said, I fill with an 18g and administer with a 25, certainly makes the draw way easier.
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I might have to pick up some bigger needles then. Never thought of using bigger then 25's for it thanks for the tip.

Im gonna see what my blood levels are after i get my next injection and go from there. I might ask my doctor for a bigger dose
 
27 gauge needles, which are typically dispensed for injecting HCG would also work for injecting testosterone, but you would need gauge 18-19 needles for drawing up testosterone.
 
Just learned the hard way to not use cheap needles that come with the narcan kit for testosterone. The needle bent when i took it out of my leg im damn lucky it didnt crack off in my fucking leg
 
paranoid android said:
Got my testosterone today. It's testosterone cypinate and im prescribed 150mg's bi weekely. The pharmacist made out like injecting this is a big deal but ill try and get the pharmacist here to inject me with it and if they cant ill have to do it myself. We will soon have to fucking diy everything in this province cause we have no in person doctors anymore.

Is this a good dose to start with and what is the usual dose anyway?
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I’ve been on Cyp injections for about four years, I take 50cc (50mg) of 200mg/ml strength Cyp (it comes in 2 different strengths, 100mg/ml and 200mg/ml), once a week (a standard dose for TRT). Mine was due to 15 years of pain management (oxy destroys your body’s ability to make its own T). Injecting is so easy you can do it in your sleep. It’s IM (intra-muscular), not IV or subcutaneous, so multiple muscle options exist. Many use their butt cheek but you need a mirror and it’s awkward. Your thigh muscles are preferred, and many/most MD’s will nowadays steer you towards using your thigh. I’m 56 and have a full head of hair and no shrinkage issues. Average T levels for my age are roughly 250-750, and when I first went to my urologist, my number was double-digits, 67 I think. After just one 13-week cycle, my number was back in the “normal” range. And has stayed there ever since. It’s now anywhere between 600 and 1,000 whenever I get tested. Happy to answer any questions, just reach out to me.
 
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