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Syrian Rue (all by it's lonesome and in pharmayuascas)

✰hyperobjects✰

✰hyperobjects✰

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Sooo I have some rue extract I got from a local apothecary a while back. Dumbass hippie herbalists who sold it to me had no info on how to work with the stuff, so I'm posting here. How strict of a diet do I need to go on for MAOIs? I hear I can't eat cheese or tofu because of tyramine. Should I just fast for like a day before I taste this? Also was curious and a bit inspired by the legal smoke blends sprayed with synthetic cannabinoids, can I just take some of the extract and put a few drops on some damiana leaf that I have and smoke it?

Also, I have some deemsters lying about and have never tried *huasca what is a good ratio? can I just use 50-100mgs of DMT and mix with a droplet of Rue, or can I smoke a damiana/rue blend and then eat-snort-plug DMT? It's been a while since I messed with ethnobotanicals, my last one was sinicuichi and didn't know if you didn't want muscle toxin effects you need to let the stuff ferment for a day in the sun, so I really want to do this Rue the right way. Thoughts, advice, criticism, always welcome. ^_^ <3

EDIT: ERR, I know, it's pharmahuasca my bad.
 
Not sure what the dosage for rue is as I usually take moclobemide. You'd need more than a "droplet" tho if you were trying to take it with Deemster. You'd have to eat a preparation of the seeds, leave it for 30-45 minutes and then eat the DMT. You might need to eat a little something like buttered toast to help the DMT kick in.
 
I've never been sicker off of a substance than the time I ate rue seeds. I wouldnt fuck with them unless you're ready for some projectile vomiting + delirium lol!
 
✰hyperobjects✰;9549440 said:
it's like 400mg of harmaline a droplet. I think perhaps I should even use half a droplet.
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That's a pretty big droplet then! I see droplet and think about the size of a drop of water, which is about 20-30mg from a pipette. I guess you meant it as like a massive rain drop or something :)

Do you know how concentrated the extract is? I'm sure you can get an idea of the sort of dose needed by searching.

It sounds like diet isn't really an issue, but you should still be careful maybe a day before and after. If you're taking any meds/supplements definitely check for interactions there.

How much did you take Boognish? I guess a lot if it caused delirium!?
 
400mg per drop sounds wrong..is it pure harmalas, or jusy a rue tincture? check the label...stardard dose of pure harmala extract for good mao inhibition is about 100mg..perhaps up to 200mg..any more and you're gonna get too drowsy and increased side effects..
on its own, lower doses like 25 to 50mg is nice for a mood lift..higher doses will generate a trip on its own..its a darkish, cerebral experience..
add 50-75mg Dmitri for a lightish trip..check erowid and Dmitri nexus for more dosing tables under harmala section..
 
I think hyperobjects means ~400mg per dropper (rather than droplet). It comes in a tincture.

In TiHKAL there are reports of using harmaline by itself from 150-500mg. He also states doses of up to 28 grams of rue extract, 20 grams of which is quoted as being "The is equivalent, probably, to a gram or so of the harmala alkaloids."
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal13.shtml


In combo with DMT he finds it getting interesting (significantly active for MAO inhibition) at about 100mg.
 
Damn, there must be some serious autie genetics / INTPs up in this forum ;) <3

I said droplet and meant dropper, TY survived abortion. Any advice on how I should mix the two? Not worried about vomiting if I fast and use a tincture.
 
Ah, that makes much more sense :)

How to mix them? Take the rue, wait 20-30 min, take the DMT?
 
harmala is pretty lenient and forgiving on your diet.
I didn't observe any restrictions and took 3g to augment an eighth of shrooms...borderline ego-death resulted; that said, be careful, but Rue is a short acting/maybe reversible maoi

I'd recommend smoking your (ground) leftovers with some weed...ftw!
 
Harmala can cause a sort of dissociative overload in sensory feedback just on its own; anachronism - for example precognition, or premonition, and perceived time loops - as well as extreme auditory distortion, hallucination, and intensified but blurred emotions, are typical subjective effects. Along with these, in my experience, comes heavy nausea and immobility (due to vertigo).

It's well worth trying in higher doses on its own, but be careful. I only needed 4 grams of ground seeds for the effects described above. Potency varies, start low.

EDIT: I see you've got some pure extract which should be easier to dose, obviously.
 
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