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NeighborMike

NeighborMike

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So seeing as ive been gone for 3 years im sure the supplements game has changed up recently. Can someone help me with these few things?

I need a fast acting protein for after I work out, a slow acting cassein for before I go to sleep, and a pre-workout drink I used to ue superpump because it has bcaas and creatine in in

thanks for the help fellas
 
Right now I'm using Champion protein throughout the day and Dymatize M.P.ACT for my pre-workout. For casein why not just eat some cottage cheese before you go to bed? Also, I wouldn't get too hung up on the idea that you need protein immediately after your workout if you're getting enough food and protein throughout the day. I used to be really rigid as far as meal timing and having a protein shake right after I worked out, but now I'm not and haven't noticed any negative effects.
 
I grind oatmeal in a coffee grinder and add it to my protein shake at night. I was told just recently that this slows down protein synthesis. Fact? Fiction? Don't really know but thought I'd pass that on
 
OverDone said:
I grind oatmeal in a coffee grinder and add it to my protein shake at night. I was told just recently that this slows down protein synthesis. Fact? Fiction? Don't really know but thought I'd pass that on
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You wouldn't want to slow down protein synthesis, you'd want to slow down digestion, which adding oatmeal and fibre (psyllium husk) and some oils would do. Whole oatmeal would be more effective for this purpose than grinding it first.
 
NeighborMike said:
So seeing as ive been gone for 3 years im sure the supplements game has changed up recently. Can someone help me with these few things?

I need a fast acting protein for after I work out, a slow acting cassein for before I go to sleep, and a pre-workout drink I used to ue superpump because it has bcaas and creatine in in

thanks for the help fellas
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Not a lot has changed in 3 years :)

You don't necessarily need a fast acting protein in your diet really - most protein you eat will digest quickly enough to maximise protein synthesis. The issue is usually how to slow digestion to facilitate a more continuous MPS. And you don't need casein to slow digestion, just adding additional ingredients, oils, fibre etc will do that.

FYI my non-stimulant pre-workout (1) contains 300mg phosphatidylserine, 1g Taurine, 2g creatine, 2g glutamine, 3g EAAs, 3g Leucine per scoop.

Non-stimulant shake (2) contains: Taurine, glutamine, creatine, AAKG, D-Maleate, Citrulline, DMAE, Tyrosine, Grapeseed extract, Guarana (0.4g), Glucuronolactone, beta-alanine, psyllium husk powder.
 
CFC said:
Not a lot has changed in 3 years :)

You don't necessarily need a fast acting protein in your diet really - most protein you eat will digest quickly enough to maximise protein synthesis. The issue is usually how to slow digestion to facilitate a more continuous MPS. And you don't need casein to slow digestion, just adding additional ingredients, oils, fibre etc will do that.

FYI my non-stimulant pre-workout (1) contains 300mg phosphatidylserine, 1g Taurine, 2g creatine, 2g glutamine, 3g EAAs, 3g Leucine per scoop.

Non-stimulant shake (2) contains: Taurine, glutamine, creatine, AAKG, D-Maleate, Citrulline, DMAE, Tyrosine, Grapeseed extract, Guarana (0.4g), Glucuronolactone, beta-alanine, psyllium husk powder.
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the fact acting protein is for after the work out...you dont think you need that? Like would you use a cassein after a workout? What protein do you use?

I see youre a fan of the large custome shake lol
 
NeighborMike said:
the fact acting protein is for after the work out...you dont think you need that? Like would you use a cassein after a workout? What protein do you use?

I see youre a fan of the large custome shake lol
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Haha. Yeah the custom shakes allow me to remove all the fillers, colours, flavours and other chemical crap that I'm sure goes against my goal of having a healthy muscular body, and save lots of money at the same time.

I actually do use whey, because it's cheaper. And I modify the speed of digestion by what I add to it, but to be honest research has mostly moved on from the supposed need for an super-acute post-workout protein surge. As long as you eat some good protein, be it a steak, whey, casein, or whatever, within a reasonable time-frame, you'll be good.

I forgot to say that when I'm cutting, I tend not to take the pre-workouts with any aminos because leucine (at least) inhibits fat loss.
 
CFC said:
Haha. Yeah the custom shakes allow me to remove all the fillers, colours, flavours and other chemical crap that I'm sure goes against my goal of having a healthy muscular body, and save lots of money at the same time.

I actually do use whey, because it's cheaper. And I modify the speed of digestion by what I add to it, but to be honest research has mostly moved on from the supposed need for an super-acute post-workout protein surge. As long as you eat some good protein, be it a steak, whey, casein, or whatever, within a reasonable time-frame, you'll be good.

I forgot to say that when I'm cutting, I tend not to take the pre-workouts with any aminos because leucine (at least) inhibits fat loss.
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what type of diet do you follow
 
Bro CFC means you buy the ingredients individually and mix them all up yourself as opposed to just buying one already mixed up from a supplement company .. ??
 
NeighborMike said:
what type of diet do you follow
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It depends what I'm doing. Right now I'm about to go into a cut, so it's going to be periodised carbs, 1-2 days fasting per week, 1-2 days high carb/refeed days, high protein throughout (300-400g), mixing up the fats for calorie targets. Except on fast days, calories between 2600 - 4400 (refeed).
 
CFC said:
It depends what I'm doing. Right now I'm about to go into a cut, so it's going to be periodised carbs, 1-2 days fasting per week, 1-2 days high carb/refeed days, high protein throughout (300-400g), mixing up the fats for calorie targets. Except on fast days, calories between 2600 - 4400 (refeed).
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do you have a diet you follow or you just eat based on those guidelines
 
I usually follow a specific plan when dieting, with a few choices built in if I'm getting bored. When bulking I'm looser and tend to just hit macros for most of the diet. However I've done it for so many years that I guess even my 'loose' eating pretty much follows a plan.
 
Are we allowed to give brand names around here these days for (non-steroid) supplements? I think most pre-workouts are garbage, but there are a few that I actually like and will buy.

I try and get 100% of my protein from food. Haven't bought a tub of protein in months. I will occasionally buy bottled single-serving protein shakes on the go, though, if I packed light for the day or whatever.

I take a daily vitamin, fish oil, use creatine mono 5g/day pre-workout, EAAs intra-workout, cycle DAA 4 weeks on, 2 off (morning doses), then take fenugreek, muira pauma and saraparilla root each morning. I also supplement glutamine daily.
 
RedLeader said:
Are we allowed to give brand names around here these days for (non-steroid) supplements? I think most pre-workouts are garbage, but there are a few that I actually like and will buy.
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Sure, there's a world of difference between explaining what you use and commercially promoting a product.
 
What's everyone else's favourite pre-workout?

I see so many different flourescent coloured drinks at the gym I've long lost track of what people like lol
 
Dymatize M.P.ACT because it doesn't make me jittery. Before that it was BSN's N.O. X-Plode but since they upped the caffeine from the original formula it would make me too jittery sometimes. Honestly I'd probably be ok with it now because I have a mild tolerance for caffeine. And as bad as it might sound, I take my pre-workout mostly just for caffeine because I don't really drink coffee anymore. But even if it works out to be a buck per serving that's still a lot less than if I were to buy a Rockstar everytime I worked out.
 
I never use a preworkout drink anything
I used to use garpari superpump i believe..cause it has bcaas and creatine in it

other then that my supplement use is very very limited..i use protein and creatine thats it, i try to get everything else from food
 
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