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sun gazing

I love how the Guardian writeup refers to NASA a lot to justify this practice.

Two years ago I was friends with a raw vegan who was practicing sun-gazing. He ended up developing a scotoma in his direct field of vision. It took 14 months for it to clear, but he still has visual deficiencies in that field. The sun will irreparably damage your optic disk if you do this, regardless if you do it mid-way or in the evening.

I've tried sun-gazing briefly, out of curiosity. It resulted in a temporary diminishment of night vision, and optical glare for many hours. IMO this practice is koolaid. Humans are not photosynthesizers and our eyes were not designed to gaze at so many lumens for "up to 44 minutes".
 
Foreigner said:
I love how the Guardian writeup refers to NASA a lot to justify this practice.

Two years ago I was friends with a raw vegan who was practicing sun-gazing. He ended up developing a scotoma in his direct field of vision. It took 14 months for it to clear, but he still has visual deficiencies in that field. The sun will irreparably damage your optic disk if you do this, regardless if you do it mid-way or in the evening.

I've tried sun-gazing briefly, out of curiosity. It resulted in a temporary diminishment of night vision, and optical glare for many hours. IMO this practice is koolaid. Humans are not photosynthesizers and our eyes were not designed to gaze at so many lumens for "up to 44 minutes".
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Well I have to admit my bullshit detectors all went off at once when I first saw it :) I.m still very very skeptical, so skeptical that to be honest I haven't fully read all the details, I just skimmed over the article and the vibe it gave me was very iffy lol.

My wife has been friendly with this couple from a healing/new-age kind of forum who describe themselves as "breatharians" they claim to not eat food at all and survive on just a small amount of water, ah ha I though when I first heard of them a couple of years ago, test subjects, I can follow this up and see what happens to these people, find out if it's all bullshit or if there is anything in it, well after 2 years they are still claiming they are eating no food and are alive and healthy, I have not met them in person and of course no one but them will ever really know if they sneak in the odd chocolate bar here and there, to me it all sounds bullshit but then again if someone had tried to explain a psychedelic experience to me before I had actually had one then I would have found that hard to believe or understand too.

So who knows, just how much of this seemingly ridiculous new age poppycock is actually not poppycock at all but has some value or truth to it, McKenna inspired me to "poke around the edges" of life and I have done a fair bit of that just because he's right, it's far more interesting than watching jeopardy or working at the widget factory, travel, psychedelics and poking around investigating the weird are alll valuable tools in the process of just making life interesting and fun, I don't take much of it seriously at all but enjoy the colour, variance and richness that is available outside of the narrow walls of mainstream culture.
 
I'm all in favour of testing out theories like this, but the risk with this method is semi-permanent damage to your eyes. For me that's not a risk I want to take.

As for breathatarianism, I think it must involve some degree of cognitive dissonance. I've been friends with raw vegans who end up eating bits of meat here and there and then feeling extremely guilty about after, but nonetheless they did it. IMO this is how they are able to survive in the seeming absence of things like B12. Their body forces them to eat something that they need and then their mind makes up a cover story. I imagine most breathatarians must be like that. They might even eat food and not be aware of it because the desire to be "pure" is so strong. I think there may be true breathatarians in the world but it's surely not easy to become one, and not in the way new agers describe it so non-chalantly.

McKenna has many fascinating ideas about psychedelics and human development, but I don't think that has much cross over with things like sun gazing and breathatarianism.
 
This sounds like a dangerous tecknic, Gazing at the sun. And cause in the article it's not very well explained how it should be done without damaging your eyes. This makes it even more dangerous as it can make it seem that it is ok to look into the sun directly to some unfortunate readers. Maybe I misread the whole thing and I missed the thorough explanation, so correct me if I am wrong.

Long ago something similar was doing rounds in my area that looking at the last sun from the corners of your vision field/ eye would promote well being. This is the opposite of looking directly in it and probably no more dangerous then the sun that shines in your eyes from the side. The result would be among others, yes, more serotonin. Wouldn't suprise me if it's based around the same idea. But sun indirectly in the eye for a short period of time seems pretty safe right?

Foreigner said:
I've been friends with raw vegans who end up eating bits of meat here and there and then feeling extremely guilty about after, but nonetheless they did it. IMO this is how they are able to survive in the seeming absence of things like B12.
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There are many cases of people having b12 deficiencies who eat meat and/ or dairy so whatever is up with b12 its more then just meat and milk.
 
yea the sun is an important source of health for us.

Do not stare directly at the sun, that is foolish.

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i've had two people in my life try to suggest i do this. One was a burnout stoner I met at the DHHS office, and the other was part of some-psuedo cult. I couldn't believe the audacity they both had to suggest something like this another with such conviction. At least the cult guy said eyes should be close. When I asked both if they actually do it, they both said no.
 
I use a reptiglo lamp to get vitamin d sometimes. Need to more often be cause I basically live in a cave.

B12 deficiency... Some people can go 20+ years without replenishing stores. Some peoples bodies are really good at holding onto it.
 
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