Bupe suboxone questions (need your help/advise)

[xxsicknessxx]

I get 16mg a day. I snort it in 4mg lines 4 times a day.

I have bad pain from a surgary, and abused drugs for 9 years im sober 6months now. I have been on and off box for 3 years. This time im staying on.

questions.

1. Would taking all 16mg at the start of the day be better then 4 times a day as in. Crave the drug less, feel better, feel less the need to redose (I often feel I need more and more sometimes over taking my pills so I run out early)

2. Would taking it under the tounge work better for me seeing how im looking to just use the drug have it last as long as possible, not abuse it, not get high, not feel the desire to take more and more. I just want to feel normal and I snort it becasue I feel I get more out of the drug, also often I feel bad or my stomache starts to hurt so I dose again.... is it in my head? I have a huge issue here... I know.

3. What advise would you give? I really want to take 12mg a day.. whats the best way to do this? I need to or I will run out to fast... I only need to do it for a few days then I can go back to 16mg.

I am a addict, old habits die hard... I like snorting drugs... I don't do anything else.. I often find my self not eating becasue i worry it will casue pain (my sugary) or becasue I worry it will numb the drug and I will desire more... this often happens.. I eat then take the drug again then eat then take the drug... its a stupid habit.. its 4am I already took 8mg snorted... I really should only take 4mg more.. but dam... I want more.. I want more and more and more and the more I take the more I want... what will it take to just take this drug like normal.. or skip a day.. just self controll? Its really my pain that is my main trigger I had gastric by pass I deal with a lot of complications as a result... sure I lost 255 pounds bug constant pain, going to the bathroom all the time sucks.. the more of the pill in me the better I feel.. *sigh* sometimes I think I would do better on a real pain killer.. but I don't desire other drugs on box like I would on a normal opiet so I stay on it. what are your thoughts.. thank you

 

[xxsicknessxx]

I read that snorting is not good becasue your nose is acidic and it won't absorb then I here you absorb more through the nose then the mouth... which is true? I am not trying to get high but I do like snorting... it keeps me happy in a way I can't explain. I feel like if I take it like normal I may want to do other drugs... its like ... I dunno.. confusing to me my self

 

[RunRunRun]

Sub is something you really can't get any euphoria on or anything after a while it seems. When I was prescribed sub, I was getting mostly strips and was ordered to take 3 a day, at 3 different times. I used to snort and even slam sub. Did both routes for a while, and I mean almost a year. But just about a month or two after snorting, but mostly slamming them, I wish i had never started because after a while it didn't seem near as affective as when I used them properly.

And I used to look for ways to intensify the sub. And it seemed I always saw that St John's Wort helped a lot of people feel more of a 'buzz' with their sub. So I gave it a try and I'd say it didn't help give me a stronger buzz or anything, it just helped make me feel better or more 'normal', like a little more energetic and a better mood, which helped me out a lot. You can find SJW at walgreens or somewhere similar. It is an herbal extract that is just used for a mood enhancer. It isn't that expensive either. I took two a day with my sub dose.

Hope that helps.

 

[Tommyboy]

1. I would split it into 2 doses instead of 4. The half-life is long enough that 4 doses a day isn't really necessary. 16mgs insufflated at once would surely be difficult.

2. I had always taken mine under the tongue. The nasal BA is only a little higher, and it seems that people report it wearing off quicker when they sniff it. I think that taking it 2 times a day is good for helping with the cravings. If you take one in the morning, at least you will have something to look forward to in a second dose later on in the day. If you were to take it all at once in the morning, then you might get bored later in the day, and think about getting high, although it would be near impossible to break through that dose of bupe with another opiate.

3. Have you looked into rubbing some alcohol under your tongue before dissolving the bupe under there? It increases the BA, and may help your 12mgs feel closer to the 16mg dose. From my experience with bupe, lowering the dose for a few days is not difficult at all, especially when you are on a pretty high dose. You should easily be able to take 12mgs instead of 16, and likely wouldn't notice much of a difference, and I don't think that you will experience any withdrawal symptoms. I used to be fine dropping to 8mgs from 16 for a week or so.

 

[OEandricearoni]

16mg a day is a pretty large dose. Luckily, tapering suboxone doses is really easy, and basically painless. I know you didnt say anything about having an intention of lowering your dose, but i would strongly recommend it as it would be easy and would be helpful in the long run.

You said you snort the sub, and often feel like you need more throughout the day. I was in pretty much the same situation as you when i was first prescribed. 16mg a day, would snort it throughout the day. I found that if you do a smaller dose, say first day tryin this 12 milligrams, you can just do smaller lines, perhaps more frequently through the day. That way, if your ever craving some you can always do another line. Try doing 2 milligram lines, and see how many times a day you have to dose to feel alright. For me, when i was taking 16mg a day, i could take 10mg in a day and not really notice a significant difference.

Also, when you snort 4mg in a line, its actually rather wasteful in my experience. I think that theres a certain amount of powder your nasal membranes can handle at one time. If you snort a huge line all at once it would be less effective than say if you had snorted 2 2mg lines or 4 1mg lines. As the above poster said, many people notice the drug wearing off quicker when you snort it. This is true in my experience as well.

For convienence sake, you could always go back to the sub-lingual route. I would suggest taking 8mg 2X a day. Once in the morning when you get up and once at night before you go to bed. If you need to get by 12mg for a few days just take 6mg in the morning and 6 at night. Judging from my experience, you probably wont even feel any discomfort or anything from the 4mg jump, at least not at that high of a dose. Suboxone seems to be easy to taper down from with virtually no discomfort until you get down to a small dose, like less than 2mg.

just my thoughts on the matter. If you have any more questions feel free to ask, I've been on suboxone for 2 years and have successfully tapered down from 16mg a day to 0.5mg a day with pretty much 0 discomfort.

 

[paper planes]

theres already been good points but ive been on almost two years and i started tapering about a yr ago...and from experience you'll prolly feel much better once you get your dose down...but i also think that you should stop snortin it cuz thats what you were doing when you were using and in a way your just substituting and still feedin that addiction cuz ive also met ppl who just like to snort shit....but look up how to dose with the alcohol solution and try to taper down to like 2 mgs twice a day...stay positive and be honest with yourself

 

[uno22]

my advice would be to take 4 mg once a day under your tongue soon after you wake up in the morning

i seriously think they only reason people are on doses above 4-8 mg is because subs are ridiculously overprescribed

 

[opiatekrzy]

for me if i take more then 4mg of bupe at once, i get negiative side effects, such as anxiety/ irritability, spacey feeling..thats why i shoot maybe 1-2mg of suboxone, cuz i will get 100% of the 1-2mg, verse sublingual taking 2mg ur body only takes in like 33% of 2mg?

 

[xxsicknessxx]

thank you for the info. I will try 6mg at the AM 6mg at night.

Really the problem is I had surgary (gastric bypass) I eat food then feel sick or my stomach hurts and I am so used to taking drugs to feel better that I turn to box and even though it doesn't help (well not past 12mg I will keep taking it) its odd.. I guess I got mental things to look out.. becasue I have taken as little as 2mg a day and been ok when I ran out before... I went from 16 to 8 to 4 to 2... as soon as I got more I went right back to 16... I think I could do a lot less and under the tonge I just have to get my head strait.