Bupe Subjective differences in effects of Subutex vs. Suboxone

[somnilicious]

I have never taken Subutex but I have taken Suboxone and it never seemed to work for me. I still had some withdrawal symptoms and it gave me horrible headaches. I think this was due to the Naltroxone. I took 50mgs of Naltroxone for about a month and also had the headaches. When I got the narcan shot I experienced severe headaches. Has anyone taken both or had these problems? I want to know if Bupe by itself works better. I know that the amount of Naltroxone in Suboxone is supposed to have no effect. So could these headaches be caused by the Bupe? Could I be sensitive to Naltroxone?

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Yes there are people that have negative side effects, especially headaches, due to naloxone (it's not naltrexone. That's a different drug).

 

[Snakevillon]

Also if u shoot them subutex feels a lot closer to a full agonist opiate and people who have experience doing this will vouch for this it's buzzare becasue I've always been a believer that naloxone is inactive but after trying subutex I actually felt a "high" and I simply can't get high on sub no matter wHat I take because of my tolerance and years of takeing it huh

 

[PKPro]

^ you haven't tried shooting Zubsolv. It fees like a full agonist as well. (And it has naloxone)

 

[Snakevillon]

^^fuckin weird man well I guess if I take your word for it than it is not the naloxone and must have something to do with inactives that would really be the only other explanation

 

[subutex_junkie]

IMO, I like subutex more, subutex always feels a lot stronger to me, if I switch from suboxone to subutex at the same dose I can actually tell that subutex has more of an effect. As far as the headaches go, naloxone is probably the cause, I've experienced headaches from it too.

 

[deidara]

Subutex is way better. I've done both(IV) plenty of times and suboxone always felt lesser somehow. I just like that straight on bupe