Open Discussion Subforum for cognitive science?

[JohnBoy2000]

We have a neuroscience and pharmacology sub, but it's heavily weighted toward the discussion of drugs.

Basically since 2016 I've used this site to tremendous effect, negotiating my way through neurological issues on the path to recovery.

I started off in 2009 with self applied cognitive intervention to manage unknown and challenging situations (to remarkable effect), that crashed out in 2014, I started drug therapeutics in 2015, and really began to get a handle the concepts of drug inventions around early 2016 - when I joined this site.

Now in 2021 it appears my journey using drug assisted therapy has come to an end, as over the course of drug therapy, they provided sufficient reinstatement of neurological function for me to cognitively get back in the drivers seat.

i.e. drug therapeutics were like a life support machine, or push start to a car whose engine had failed.

And now the engine managed to come back online and has started to run of its own volition, I wish to continue to explore the neural mechanisms for this happening, and how it will continue to improve.

.......

Now bluelight has a vast number of subforums, but none that cater specifically to the psychological/cognitive based aspects to neurology.
There's the "science" sub, "relationships" sub, "words" sub (technically could say this is linguistic'esque?) etc., but I am at this point firmly of the belief that cognitive intervention will be the next major step for nervous system science;

As we've seen the major pharmaceutical platforms have largely withdrawn from further CNS drug research and development - possibly because the primary options and targets have been explored and exhausted.

Cognitive understanding I firmly contend is the next step.

Just as with drug therapeutics and the learning curve on that journey, BL was a fantastic resource for links, literature, discussing effects and outcomes.

I would very much like to continue that process, only now transferring it to cognitive science and what that entails.
Subforums on reddit are fairly okay but, that sites layout and dynamic is really not conducive to in depth exploration as threads get flooded with irrelevant view points and it's too large and impersonal in its outlay.

I have attempted to broach this in some of the aforementioned subforums above, but they're not really intended for cognitive specific discussion and for that reason they tend to get lost in the fray and don't materialize into worthwhile discussion.

I'd certainly be happy to contribute to subforum intention description, sticky thread descriptions and conveying the general purpose of what the subforum can achieve;

 

[TheLoveBandit]

First, let me congratulate you on your successful journey, and give kudos for the desire to follow it further in helping others. Neither of these should be taken for granted or dismissed easily.

As to your request for a sub-forum specific to this content, the way we manage what sub-forums to have is largely dictated by the membership's needs. Specifically, as some forums generate much less traffic, they are reviewed for a kill or merge-into option. As some forums generate growing traffic, we look at splitting the content out to different forums (BDD and more specifically OD frequently face this question). Quite frankly, we are years overdue for such a review and I'm working through our historical traffic data now to get us a more current assessment. For us to consider creating a new sub-forum, generally there needs to be enough traffic on the subject to warrant a full dedicated sub-section, which thus far you appear to be a lone voice.

You mention 'I have attempted to broach this in some of the aforementioned subforums above', is this a reference to the reddit subs, or to our 'science' 'slr' and 'words' subs? It sounds that if your journey has been from broken, to rehabilitated via cognitive and drug assissted therapy, perhaps trying in one of our Recovery&Support forums would give your topic a more nurturing home - one that can help others AND draw in more discussion from those either facing a similar path or having navigated themselves through it? Then, with growing discussion over time we could justify such a sub getting split out? And in the meantime, any such threads and discussions can surredly help others, whether they particpate or lurk. In looking at our R&C forums, I'd recommend the following:

The Dark Side - likely not, as this is more crisis management
Health & Recovery - possible, but may get lost in the 'healthy living' aspects? Idunno.
Mental Health - looks like a great candidate forum to start fostering such discussion, no?

 

[JessFR]

If we're requesting subforums. I've been asking for one for opioid users for years.

We shouldn't have to share with the tweakers. They.. Just... Won't.. Stop.. Talking!

I still think it's weird that we have a steroid forum but stims and opioids gotta share with others under the "other" banner.

 

[Jabberwocky]

We shouldn't have to share with the tweakers. They.. Just... Won't.. Stop.. Talking!

All that talk is work keeping this place awake and functioning as the fascinating and vibrant community it is. And bloody glass houses! But yeah. Steroids. What’s up with that?

 

[JessFR]

All that talk is work keeping this place awake and functioning as the fascinating and vibrant community it is. And bloody glass houses! But yeah. Steroids. What’s up with that?

Endlessly pulling out all your shit into a big mess so you can "organize" it back where it was to start with is NOT productive work. :D

As for glass houses, at least our posts are coherent, when we're not half asleep on the keyboard anyway :D.

More to the point it's really hard to enjoy your nods when damn tweakers won't shut up.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

More to the point it's really hard to enjoy your nods when damn tweakers won't shut up.

Are they typing too loud?

 

[JessFR]

Are they typing too loud?

Yeeeees?

Actually while I am prone to huge tldr posts even on opioids, I'm even worse on amphetamines. :D

I once spent 2 hours on a post that was then so long I spent another 2 hours trying to get it down to size (while still intermittently adding new stuff) only to throw it away when it was clear it couldn't be salvaged. :D

 

[dalpat077]

I still think it's weird that we have a steroid forum but stims and opioids gotta share with others under the "other" banner.

Your problems are your own! How do you think I feel i.e. Cocaine not having it's own little special place and also being relegated to "other"? Fucking druggies!

As for glass houses, at least our posts are coherent, when we're not half asleep on the keyboard anyway :D.

I always knew you had a sense of humor but you outdid yourself on this one!

I once spent 2 hours on a post that was then so long I spent another 2 hours trying to get it down to size (while still intermittently adding new stuff) only to throw it away when it was clear it couldn't be salvaged. :D

Sounds familiar. Try 6 - 8 hours though! Sober! Amateur!


On a serious note:

I read the OP's post when it was first posted. And it seems to be well thought out and very well intended. I'm not entirely sure that I understand the concept though. So from that perspective: I hope the OP does start a thread somewhere on the topic. That's about as much support as I can give without being familiar with the concept I'm afraid. Probably doesn't count for much (my support). But there it is for posterity anyway.

 

[JessFR]

Your problems are your own! How do you think I feel i.e. Cocaine not having it's own little special place and also being relegated to "other"? Fucking druggies!

Pfft, nobody wants to play with the coke heads, we know they see themselves as superior to the rest of us.

The stoners do it too, but not as loudly. :D

It's possible the psychedelic users also think they're better than us junkies and tweakers, I'm not entirely sure. Always a bit difficult to work out what's goin on in their head.

 

[December Flower]

Pfft, nobody wants to play with the coke heads, we know they see themselves as superior to the rest of us.

The stoners do it too, but not as loudly. :D

It's possible the psychedelic users also think they're better than us junkies and tweakers, I'm not entirely sure. Always a bit difficult to work out what's goin on in their head.

There's always the self-proclaimed psychotrope guru/shaman/spiritual guide

If they're not full of brown stinky matter, I don't know who is :D
Met a bunch of cooks IRL that would babble on about nonsensically, thinking they're just giving me the key to life, lucky me, but it's all just incoherent jibberjabber.

During my psychotrope times I too was certainly of a specifically arrogant breed. Not because I willed it so, but because I was deep in psychosis without being aware of it. Takes a certain kind of snootiness to think you're actually the moon and made up a fake reality where you are part of the world below, so you don't feel so alone from being seperated by the sun. I took life itself as a big joke, made up by myself for amusement. Haha. Sounds so silly now, but back then I was trapped in that construct I built