Subcutaneous Detatestryl 200mg/week for methadone hypogonadism and its Sx

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Alright, after 11 months on methadone blood tests revealed something obvious : my body's hormones are fucked up. So I was switched to suboxone which is nowhere as "fun" as methadone but I guess it keeps wd at bay. Now the main point of this question : it took about 6 weeks for the effects to be felt, and holy shit did it kick in last sunday when I last SC'd the detatestryl. I couldn't contain with myself by doing nothing in front of the computer. I used to be a hockey player and baseball player until 20 years old but not being drafted to the professional junior hockey league of my province I stopped caring about my health. Except for a little stint in 2004-2005-2006 where I started using my stepdad's sitting bench and also having chosen 2 out of 3 possible (and mandatory 3 phys ed classes in college...canada's colleges are a lot different, especially in Qc) which were "Physical Conditioning" and then "Musculation". I didn't lose all of the muscle I gained then but I did get fat again because of the methadone and it's sugar munchies.

Is it normal that once this thing kicks in I cannot sit still and I suddenly picked a 15 lbs weight and did 3 series of 15 on each arm and it was like I was enjoying it, something I never achieved even when I was in top shape. It felt like I HAD TO FUCKING LIFT. So I did. Now 2 days later my arms hurt so badly, reaching for a glass in the pantry is painful, nevermind the bupe, it's a crappy painkiller, I understand now why the Buprenex 0.3mg ampoules are more than often used on kids rather adults.

Also, any tricks to prevent hurting so badly next time I sc that testosterone ? I still feel energetic but a bit anxious the 2 days after, the Hulk feeling vanished after the MUST LIFT day heh. Also does SC'ing it in your weed belly on the front performs better ? Because I sc'd in my love handles at first but I lost most of the fat on these sides already so I went for the front thinking it would destroy that ugly fat there fast too.
 
Why sc ? You're supposed to IM steroids. Is this a special kind made for sc ?
It has the enanthate ester attached so site growth/fat loss is very unlikely. You should get leaner overall.
Edit : just found out it's like regular test, so IM.
 
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flyhighk said:
Why sc ? You're supposed to IM steroids. Is this a special kind made for sc ?
It has the enanthate ester attached so site growth/fat loss is very unlikely. You should get leaner overall.
Edit : just found out it's like regular test, so IM.
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This doctor here can tell you why.



This doctor explains why and does it to himself too. The reason is not to get huge spikes in test levels at first and then have it go down till the next sc injection. I'm thankful, if I had to take it IM and have it spike like crazy for more than one day like that, it wouldn't be sustainable heh. SC makes the whole graph more sinusoidal. Now my couple of questions...
 
He discussed how to give the injections while minimizing the pain. Don't pinch, don't use a tiny needle etc...
And regarding fat loss, no I don't see any benefit in injecting in your abdominal fat.
You described a "hulk feeling", and that indicates a spike in test levels. So maybe SC injections don't really limit spikes ?
If I were you I'd try IM to compare the two.
 
Lol.

My doctor scripted me to use it SC, so the pharmacy gave me SC needles. There's no way around that. I just think that the methadone's bad effects are totally gone now and I don't need to inject testosterone anymore, I'll see soon, I took a blood test this morning.

Also just google "subcutaneous testosterone", it seems to be getting very common.
 
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Well you can use those needles to inject IM if you're lean enough. Or just tell him it's hurting too much...
 
Fuck your doctor and any other doctor that recommend subcutaneous steroid injections.Never ever inject a steroid subcutaneously, that's the reason it's hurting. They are meant to be injected intramuscularly. Subcutaneous injections of oil hurt, can become infected, or can develop into an abscess.

Bodybuilders and TRT patients have been injecting Testosterone and other anabolic androgenic steroids intramuscular for decades. There is a reason for that. If subcutaneous injections worked so well every bodybuilder would be injecting steroids that way instead.

There is a way around it Oblivion- Google gpz services and click the site. Go to products, select needle only. Add the desired amount of 25g x 1 needle to your cart. Go back, select syringe only. Add the desired amount of 5cc syringes to your cart. Checkout. Pay by credit or debit. Wait for a package.

For the record steroids will not cause fat to vanish in the area they are injected. Testosterone Etanthate is a good steroid bro. I use it every week at 250mg weekly during the Spring, Summer and Fall. During the Winter I bump it up to 500mg. Testosterone revolutionized my recovery as well bro. It gave me energy, fixed my libido, and gave me my lean muscle mass back. After 6 weeks on it I felt normal, like I felt before I started using heroin.
 
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It doesn't hurt me though?

But yeah, I'll consider doing it IM a bit later when I consider my arms to be very lean, and I'm already getting close to it. Been lifting every 3 days since the testosterone has started to have effect. I do indeed feel 80% normal now but I attribute that to the bupe which I have to use with the alcohol solution technique to get any feeling from it (it isn't that great but it does kill pain at those 2mg and less dosages. I can't use these SC syringes for the Detatestryl right ?

I still have no idea about the cortisol since I am not getting a call from the endocrinologist the Men's Health Doc I saw who scripted the testosterone said he would refer me to. They indeed have my name but haven't called and it's been 3 months since they have my doc's request to see me. I'm getting blood tests done monday, I'll see where things are now. I didn't lose much weight (5-8lbs max) but I still lost a moderate amount of abdominal fat and have been wanting to exercise (which is unlike me...well, unlike me since a while...I'm still in recovery....thing is I want to be back on a full blown mu agonist in the future, I got where I was because I needed an opiate painkiller and was messed with by doctors giving me non renewable scripts for my very painful jaw/nerve damage problem (combo of TMJ Disorder/some kind of localized nerve damage my neurologist never really specified what it was).

Thanks guys, I'm only wondering, if SC sucks, why is it noticeably working (not after all shots though).
 
SC sucks but I never said it doesn't work. It works, but it can be more dangerous than IM injections...
 
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