Study shows ecstasy's agony

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People who use ecstasy work their way there by experimenting with an average of 11 classes of drugs.
Many users had been on binges lasting numerous sleepless days and nights, research showed.

And one in four overdosed on an illicit drug in the previous six months; most likely on a substance other than ecstasy and most commonly GHB.

A ground-breaking study into young Victorians' ecstasy use revealed strong links between the drug and other harmful substances.

As well as ecstasy, users are most likely to have recently used alcohol, methamphetamine powder, cannabis and crystal methamphetamine.

The study found almost half the ecstasy users reported better communication and sociability under its influence.

But the majority recognised they were taking risks with their health.

Concerns included memory loss, depression and doubts about the purity of the pills.

The Victorian findings of the Party Drug Initiative (PDI), a national study examining trends in ecstasy and related drug use, showed almost half the Melbourne respondents binged on drugs in the previous six months.

The use of other drugs was common among the 100 ecstasy users surveyed.

Respondents were typically in their mid-20s, lived at home or in rental accommodation and most had post-secondary qualifications.

The most common first-time ecstasy use by respondents was when they were 18.

The users reported having taken between four and 19 different drug types, with a median of 11.

The median length of the non-stop binges was 84 hours, with the longest lasting 10 sleepless days.

Ecstasy users often took other stimulants when the drug wore off to enable them to keep functioning and avoid a depressive let-down.

The National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre report provided a comprehensive breakdown of attitudes and habits of ecstasy users.

It reports on the Tuesday Blues, where users suffer mood downturns after weekend partying.

The report showed an ambulance was most likely to be called out between 4am and 5am on a Sunday -- with the incidence of negative or serious drug reactions requiring ambulance attendance rising steadily after midnight.

Hundreds of people received ambulance treatment for ecstasy-related incidents between March 2001 and December 2003.

One of the side-effects of ecstasy is it can hyper-energise users until the early hours of the day, explaining why complications such as overheating can occur just before dawn.

The NDARC surveyed users who had taken the drug at least once a month in the previous six months. They had to be 16 or older.

Fitzroy's Turning Point Alcohol & Drug Centre research fellow Jennifer Johnston said ecstasy use was widespread, but its harms were often overstated.

The majority of people using the drug did not report serious side-effects.

Ms Johnston said research showed youths were becoming suspicious of strong marijuana, which left users anti-social.

This could partly explain why so many switched to ecstasy.

Most users are likely to be working and/or studying but are unlikely to have been in prison.
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Study shows ecstasy's agony
by John Ferguson
July 19, 2005
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as a news writer, not only was this article horribly written (i could have done better shit faced at 5 am) but is totally false. people average 11 different classes of drugs before they roll? i didn't even know there were 11 different classes of drugs.

especially when it comes to writing about drugs in the news, you can tell the people who haven't even smoked weed when it comes to writing about drugs.
 
^^ I understand your frustration with the article being poorly written, however I posted it more for the questionable findings of this "study".
 
zekethemusicman said:
What the hell is this article supposed to be?


A "Herald-Sun" article.. the newspaper that the vast majority of Victorian (in Australia!) readers take for granted as being their 'news'..

What it's "supposed to be" is exactly what it is.. a piece pointing out how evil these "new designer drugs" are and how "our children" are the victims. Believe me, if this bothers you, you don't want to even contemplate the 'opinion' columns or the editorial! 8(
 
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From what population did they get their sample? probably a hardcore drug rehab program or something...

I've never been to australia but I can't imagine this to be typical behavior.
 
Pretty alien to me. Most ecstasy users I know use it on special occasions only, and do naught but pot, alcohol, and tobacco in addition. Those were the only ones I'd ever done before I tried e, and same for most pillers I know. I for one have never binged (i have never done more than 2 pills in an episode, and always waited weeks or months between episodes) have never ended up in the hospital, and have never taken anything else to remain functional after I've come down.

It's just too special a feeling to ruin.
 
song seven said:
People average 11 different classes of drugs before they roll? i didn't even know there were 11 different classes of drugs.

I think they should list the 11 stage agony drugs so I can truly experience ecstacy ;)
 
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Jimmy the Gun said:
From what population did they get their sample? probably a hardcore drug rehab program or something...

that is the KEY question that should be asked about any such study, I just saw an ad in my local paper , some organization is conducting research on ecstasy users and one condition among others are:

You have used ecstasy on 50 seperate occasions during last 12 months

So if this is their sample REQIREMENT , ie average of 6 occasions per month, you can imagine what kind of results this study will produce as well, as most of these subjects will be hardcore abusers and bingers...

8)
 
median binge of 10 sleepless nights, im not buying it, not one bit, total bullshit, where the fuck did they get this?

do the same study with meth, and even then you wont find it to be true. this article was fraught with propaganda, but 240 sleepless hours is when most human bodies competely shut down. Ive only known one person to do it this long, and it was on meth. in the movie spun, the hardcore guys say 10 days is the longest. besides, that means some people have to go 20 days on it. it has to be a highly biased study.

this makes "dr." ricaurte sound like an addict in denial
 
fruitfly said:
I am SO TIRED of these writers who think they're being really clever by pairing the words "agony" and "ecstasy." :X
seriously what the fuck!!!! im sooo fuckin sick of people using "the agony of ecstacy" for titles of reports on ecstacy.

it seems like every god damn shitty drugs in the media report about ecstacy is titled something along the lines of "the agony of ecstacy"

jesus think of something new peoples
 
median binge of 10 sleepless nights, im not buying it, not one bit, total bullshit, where the fuck did they get this?

do the same study with meth, and even then you wont find it to be true. this article was fraught with propaganda, but 240 sleepless hours is when most human bodies competely shut down. Ive only known one person to do it this long, and it was on meth. in the movie spun, the hardcore guys say 10 days is the longest. besides, that means some people have to go 20 days on it. it has to be a highly biased study.

I'm not saying the study was well-done, but it doesn't add anything to pull out facts incorrectly...the article says:
The median length of the non-stop binges was 84 hours, with the longest lasting 10 sleepless days.
 
The median length of the non-stop binges was 84 hours, with the longest lasting 10 sleepless days.
There are 3 types of average: Mean, Median and Mode.

The use of the phrase "of the non-stop binges" implies that this statistic was derived from a SUBSET of the full set of people studied. No mention is made of the size of this subset, but it is quite likely that out of
the 100 ecstasy users surveyed
who had taken the drug at least once a month in the previous six months
there were 3 idiots who responded that they HAD binged on ecstasy for over 24 hours, one of whom said he binged for 36 hours, one who claimed to binge for 84 hours, and the prankster of the bunch who bragged about his 10 day binge on his survey form.

Thus 84 hours is quite obviously the MEDIAN length of the binges reported.

Now the one thing in life which depresses me more than any other is the fact that the vast majority of humanity is willing to blindly accept as truth a 2nd-hand non-scientific scare-story by a biased reporter rather than to find the original research for themselves. It took 2 seconds to enter "Party Drugs Initiative" into my desktop search bar, and find on the first page of google's results this link to the ORIGINAL STUDY performed by the group, and links to much of their other research!

http://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/ndarc.nsf/website/Research.current.cp30
Read it for yourselves, and see what was REALLY learned by surveying 100 victorian regular (>1/month) ecstasy users. We all know that until either drugs or humanity no longer exist there will be scare-stories published in the media to spoon-feed those lazy sheep out there, so in my opinion, articles such as these are not novel enough to belong on the front-page, but the release of a new, highly publicised scientific study by a major govt funded organization that can provide a new perspective on a certain subset of drug-culture and the avoidable harms and risks which they are undertaking IS novel enough to belong on the front-page.

I guess what I'm saying is I'd like to see more scientific studies like the primary source for this article on the front-page, and fewer idiotic secondary sources that are sure to inspire a bunch of :X faced replies. Maybe we could actually foster some new discussion and insight about the harms and benefits of MDMA and other drugs, and how to benefit those who choose to use them.
 
my bad fizzy. the line above it said median of 11 drugs too. I speadread and there were too many uses of the word "median" in a row. next time I'll re-check my facts before I click submit
 
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