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Stop Wanking!

As far as i'm concerned it's seriously dodgy probably christian moral propaganda.

If someone is masturbating so frequently it affects their life negatively because they don't have time to do more important things, or are suffering from excess chaffing, then sure, cut down. If you have an obession with porn that means no real women will ever live up to your standards in terms of appearance or easy availability at the click of a mouse button then maybe cut back on that and try and reconnect with real people and it will do you some good.

I just don't see that not masturbating for 3 months or whatever is actually going to be any real benefit to anyone. The body clearly isn't designed to repress basic desires like eating, sleeping, sex or whatever and there is a good deal of medical evidence to suggest that occasional masturbation lowers the risk of things like prostate cancer and is basically healthy.

There's even evidence to suggest that stress is such a health risk that bad habits like smoking and drinking (especially light smoking and drinking) can be healthier on balance if they reduce your stress than the health risks of the stress itself. Given that masturbation is probably one of the easiest, quickest and (compared to smoking and drinking) healthiest things that you can do to lower stress, it must be good for you.

The kinds of people that go for stuff like this are usually either moralising christians who think sex outside marraige is somehow wrong or else anoying new agey types who go for reiki and transcendental meditation and only eat raw foods that want to be eaten and crap like that.
 
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The bottom line for me is that if I'm not hurting anyone, I'll do what I want. Wanking is not harmful and there's no reason not to do it. Whose life is it anyway? Sheesh.

Same thing with drugs... they're essentially a victimless crime, and the main reason they're damaging to society is their illegality. If they were accepted as a normal part of life and integrated into society, there would be very few problems with them, IMO. The usual consequences would still be there, i.e. drive while high and you get thrown in jail... cuz your activity is hurting others. But the drugs would be legal.
 
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Dedbeet said:
The bottom line for me is that if I'm not hurting anyone, I'll do what I want. Wanking is not harmful and there's no reason not to do it. Whose life is it anyway? Sheesh.
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I don't think the idea is that anyone is telling you to stop wanking.

The idea is that it can somehow be healthy not to masturbate or look at porn and quitting both these activities will somehow make you a healthier happier better person.

Which i think is total bullshit.

Public//Enemy said:
So who wants to go halfers on a rape charge.
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I remember reading somewhere that the different states of America got widespread internet access at different points in time due to the quickness or slowness of the various different local state telephone network companies (in the UK we got it slow because BT is shite).

This means that you can actually look at the statistics for when the different states got to the point where more people had internet than didn't, which are all stagered. The interesting bit of information i remember is that in all cases rape statistics actually went down very slightly in each state as people got general access to the internet in their homes - the theory was internet porn ment that at least some of the nastier sados out there were staying at home and consuming internet porn rather than heading out to rape someone.

just did a quick google - i didn't imagine it!

Northwest university school of Law Public Law and Legal Theory Research Paper Series - Porn up, Rape down
 
MrM said:
I don't think the idea is that anyone is telling you to stop wanking.

The idea is that it can somehow be healthy not to masturbate or look at porn and quitting both these activities will somehow make you a healthier happier better person.

Which i think is total bullshit.
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I agree. Why would feeling pleasure be unhealthy, and not feeling pleasure make you into a healthier, happier or better person?

It's true that pleasure-seeking as a whole can be a way to avoid the basic realities of life, but that's really an entirely different matter, IMO... it doesn't follow that not seeking/feeling pleasure means not avoiding the basic realities of life.
 
Dedbeet said:
It's true that pleasure-seeking as a whole can be a way to avoid the basic realities of life, but that's really an entirely different matter, IMO.
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All things in moderation.

I have no doubt that if you spend all day every day masturbating and looking at porn (probably whilst on mephedrone) quitting would make you a healthier, happier and better adjusted person (well, healthier and better adjusted anyway).

But that's completely different to suggesting wanking is bad because as you say any kind of pleasure seeking escapism taken too far is not good.
 
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Im pretty sure shootin yer load is good for the prostate. I skimmed through it and it does seem like there is an agenda somewhere
 
Jesus, I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought that thread title was aimed directly at them. Ten minutes ago you would've really spooked me out. ;)

I'm sure masturbation (albeit not constant wanking) is a wholly natural and healthy part of our lives. The porn industry, however is a different kettle of fish. While there's obviously a massive spectum of erm... 'material' out there but it tends to shift towards the more sinister and degrading material all the time.

I can only think that (depending on the content of the porn the guy was watching) that it was likely to be having a far more damaging effect.

Interesting about the internet access / sex crimes figures, but I think there's also evidence (though it'd be a bugger to approach as any kind of scientific study) that porn has had a massive influence on general sexual behaviour too, not always exactly positive in nature.

Tangled web, can of worms, Legion of Doom etc.
 
I agree that there are some concerns regarding certain kinds of porn and perhaps also in the way the porn industry tries to produce a certain kind of material it thinks will sell the best that is not exactly uplifting in the way it treats the subject matter.

I would counter by saying there has always been this element (even if it's easier to get hold of now) and the important difference now as opposed to 30 years ago is that we all have search engines and a hell of a lot more choice than we did back when most people's experience of pornography was a dodgy probably second hand magazine featuring women with large tits.

I will admit that 90% + of the stuff i see (and avoid) online, when the mood takes me, falls into the catagory of 'vaugely unpleasant looking pornstars doing nasty stuff' rather than anything approaching erotic art or decent pornography. When the female actor looks and sounds like she's trying to look and sound like she's enjoying herself whilst doing things clearly no one could enjoy - that's a no. I can't complain though - i don't pay for it and i'm good at filtering.
 
MrM said:
back when most people's experience of pornography was a dodgy probably second hand magazine featuring women with large tits.
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And the mac-wearing recipient was lucky if the crumpled pages weren't additionally bound with another man's bio-adhesive.
 
SamhainGrim said:
Legion of Doom
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legion-of-doom-hawk-and-animal.jpg
 
^ Now there we see two men who wanked their way to countless tag team titles.

Nice one, Crackhead.

Off-topic, I remember seeing a British wrestling poster in the early 90s, clearly trying to cash in on the WWF boom. Among the shitty attempts at conning the public was a guy who looked like Hawk (but with a beer gut and jowls) in a cheapo version of the LOD attire shown above. He was billed as "Legend of Doom".

While I was pissing myself laughing at the poster, some scouse guy walks up to it with his mate, initally with great interest, before tutting and announcing to his mate "They're all copieeeesss" in an indignant-but-whiny scouse accent.

Thanks for bringing that back. :D

Now, back to wanking. The thread I mean.
 
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