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Stoners Against the Prop. 19 Tax Cannabis Initiative

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A little solace for all you Californians out there.
“People think it’s legalization, it’s being sold as legalization—even though it’s the opposite of legalization.” - Dennis Peron, author of Prop. 215 that legalized medical marijuana in California
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When most marijuana activists, growers and consumers first heard about an initiative that would legalize cannabis in California, they thought it was a pipe dream come true. To many, legalization implied that it would no longer be a crime to possess, consume or distribute marijuana. Cannabis consumers rejoiced at the idea of being able to buy from their neighbors or at parties—just as they already do—with no legal retribution. Small-time growers envisioned being free to sell their product to those who sought them out, with no legal repercussions. Marijuana activists thought it meant that people would stop getting arrested for pot, and that the drug war would finally be over. But now that the initiative is headed to ballot, many pro-legalization supporters are coming out against it. Why?
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The late-Jack Herer, legendary marijuana activist known as the father of the legalization movement, vehemently opposed the initiative. In the last words of his impassioned final speech, moments before the heart attack that would eventually claim his life, he urged people not to support it.[1] Proposition 215 author, Dennis Peron, likewise denounced the initiative, saying it is not legalization, but “thinly-veiled prohibition.”[2]

Compared to the present status of cannabis in California, many marijuana activists see this initiative as a giant leap backward. Ironically, it appears that marijuana is more “legal” in California today than it would be if this initiative were to pass.
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With all the good press and the proposition not passing, perhaps you got the best of both worlds?
 
^The greed heads are all against it- growers, dealers, etc because it will make it harder for them to rape everyone's pockets.

There seems to be a stupid assumption among some stoners that when pot gets legalized it will be totally unregulated. When pot is made legal,it'll be regulated like alcohol. That means that of course you won't be able to legally buy it at parties or from your neighbors. But you would be able to go on a "weed run" just like a beer run, and it'd be just as easy. Or you could walk over to the multiple pounds of weed you'd be legally allowed to cultivate and just grab some to smoke up. If you're a pot user and you voted no on this you should be ashamed of yourself.
 
we have be fighting for something like this for how long? And now when it finally comes people still bitch. It may not be everyones ideal legalization but, like medical marijuana, its a step to full blown legalization.
 
^Exactly. Almost 1 million people are locked in cages for marijuana offenses (almost all of them over possession) in this country, and when there's finally a chance to move towards ending this injustice people decide those people should stay locked up because they want to be able to buy pot from their neighbors and at parties and make money off the herb they grow. Fuck them.
 
^@psychomimetic

I'm curious as to how this would have helped the "1 million people locked in cages for possession of marijuana." In California it is a $100 dollar misdemeanor to carry up to an ounce and it is on its way to being decriminalized (i.e. no criminal record). Prop 19 would have made it legal to possess up to an ounce. Who exactly would be getting out of jail?




psychomimetic said:
^The greed heads are all against it- growers, dealers, etc because it will make it harder for them to rape everyone's pockets.

There seems to be a stupid assumption among some stoners that when pot gets legalized it will be totally unregulated. When pot is made legal,it'll be regulated like alcohol. That means that of course you won't be able to legally buy it at parties or from your neighbors. But you would be able to go on a "weed run" just like a beer run, and it'd be just as easy. Or you could walk over to the multiple pounds of weed you'd be legally allowed to cultivate and just grab some to smoke up. If you're a pot user and you voted no on this you should be ashamed of yourself.
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What’s more, if your city decides not to tax cannabis, then buying and selling marijuana in the city limits would remain illegal. You would be permitted to possess and consume marijuana, but you would be required to travel to another city that taxes cannabis to buy it.[13] This is a move towards decreased, not increased, access. And since the initiative is so ambiguous that cities are destined to be tied up in a legal quagmire over how to interpret it, many local governments might find it simpler just to opt-out and send its citizens elsewhere. Indeed, 129 cities did just that with medical marijuana, banning it outright, while still others have established moratoriums against dispensaries. In fact, of the entire state, only the city of Oakland has endorsed the initiative. A vote for the initiative will therefore not ensure local access to purchase marijuana legally.
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