Steroid at a very young age

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Wirison

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Hi.

I am a 18 year old man, with a curious question. When i was around 14-15, i experienced first time with steroids. I used several cures, and it was Oxydrolone (oxymethalone) i didn't tho inject, it was all oral. It's a really strong one, to start with, but i did not know anything about it back then. I were young, training, and wanted to be big. And this was my route to it.

Now. I think i'm starting to notice some of those bi-effects i got. When i'm drinking, i am getting in a very odd mood. It's like im turning into a whole new person. And i am very aggressive & provoking everybody. It is tho only, when i am drinking sprits, im getting in this mood. I can drink beer fine.

I am living in a little town. So when i finally is going to the town with my friends, and i get sprits, shit is breaking down. And i hate it. I really does. Specially when everybody in this town know eachother. Right now, i believe that everyone in my town thinks, that i am a psychopatic student, with issue problems. It makes me feel bad. Not just for me, but also for my family. I am creating a reputation i do not like, which also will bring shame on my family. But i just dont know the diagnosis for it? Is there anyone, or am i just catogorized as one of those, who cannot tolerate alcohol?

And ya'all are probably thinking, that i just could stop drinking. But it's not that simple for me. I've never tried to be drunk, like i think you guys have. So when my friends are drinking, i am getting really beefed up and wants to party with'em.

I have been smoking marijuana, daily, for almost 1½ year. I have never experienced anything ''bad'' on it. Tho, the first time i tried it, i had a bad trip, but nothing serious. It's a drug i can control, and i like the buzz in my body and brain.
 
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It sounds like alcohol just makes you aggressive/moody and might have nothing to do with your past oral steroid use. Alcohol fucks peoples minds up bad. Most of my family drink every day. I have seen the effects, daily alcohol use will make you erratic and crazy.

Although there is only one way to find out if it was due to the steroids, get blood work done and see what your hormone levels are like. I couldn't tell you what levels you are looking for so maybe someone else will chime in.
 
Ok this has nothing to do with anabolic steroids or training or anything in that category buddy

Your natural testosterone will be well back to normal levels,

I don't mean to talk down to you, but your not a grown man yet so your past steroid use unless totally fucking abused will not have any negative effect on you now

If you did abuse them, the only way it would mess with your head now is through depression, feeling tired all the time, limp dick etc because it would be basically shut down

But that cannot be the case because high Test = aggression side effect with some people due to the androgenic activity of the hormone therefore your testosterone is either normal or naturally high , In which case it would be easy for you to body build without the use of AAS

Having said all this..... YOU CAN NOT HANDLE THE DRINK :( (neither can I it's a good thing keeps me out of trouble lol
 
Hmm yeah. I've heard something about it, Liftedgift.

Benzoman:
Are you sure about that? I am sure, i didn't abuse them tho. But everything i've read on the net, and talked with guys about, they are saying that I should be dead. But again, i do not have any of those bi-effects you mention. Maybe the only thing i've got, is a feeling of loneliness. Buy okay, i can see your point in mostly everything you wrote.
 
benzoman12345 said:
because high Test = aggression side effect
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There is absolutely no reliable evidence that testosterone causes “’roid rage” or any type of violent, aggressive or uncontrollable behavior. No violence, aggression or unpredictable behavior has been seen in studies where men were administered testosterone, even at extremely high doses. In fact, the opposite appears to be true; many men with low T describe being more irritable, or having a short fuse, and this often improves with normalization of testosterone levels.

So no, Benzoman is not right at this point.

If I were you, try to understand what makes you feel aggressive when you are drunk and work on that, what does it make you think and feel?
 
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Elevated test can disrupt the balance of dht and estrogen which are linked with aggression. So yes in a sense high test is linked to aggression.
 
When I say that there is no evidence for it, I mean there is enough evidence of sufficient strength to justify the view that the general population has to steroids results in rage, anger, aggression, outbursts and even violence. The myth of roid rage is "understandable" - we see a big, strong man be angry about something, quickly the generel population of sheeple will draw conclusions that this is because of the use of hormones. Correlation without causation - a size that ordinary people generally do not understand the abstract context of. That a person has used steroids and may exhibit violent behavior does not mean that there is a causal relationship between intake of steroids and behavior.

Prejudices include arising from (especially Swedish) case studies which look at criminals with drug addiction in general. We're not talking about an abuse of steroids, but drugs in general - amphetamines, drugs, etc. It is basic science and have been for a long time that, to the extent possible, to control variables. It is bad science to conclude anything with such a guarantee from case studies / case. It is actually not science. By the same token, one could conclude all sorts of things.

So what does the science tell us? Let's have a look.

#1: The effects of supraphysiological doses of testosterone on angry behavior in healthy eugonadal men–a clinical research center study.
The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism – R Tricker, R Casaburi, T W Storer, B Clevenger, N Berman, A Shirazi and S Bhasin. Volume 81 Issue 10 | Oct 1, 1996.
Conclusion: Supraphysiological doses of testosterone, when administered to normal men in a controlled setting, do not increase angry behavior. These data do not exclude the possibility that still higher doses of multiple steroids might provoke angry behavior in men with preexisting psychopathology.

Tricker R, Casaburi R, Storer TW, et al. The effects of supraphysiological doses of testosterone on angry behavior in healthy eugonadal men–a clinical research center study. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1996;81(10):3754-8. http://press.endocrine.org/…/10.1210/jcem.81.10.8855834

Anecdotal reports of “roid rage” and violent crimes by androgenic steroid users have brought attention to the relationship between anabolic steroid use and angry outbursts. However, testosterone effects on human aggression remain controversial. Previous studies have been criticized because of the low androgen doses, lack of placebo control or blinding, and inclusion of competitive athletes and those with preexisting psychopathology.

To overcome these pitfalls, we used a double-blind, placebo-controlled design, excluded competitive athletes and those with psychiatric disorders, and used 600 mg testosterone enanthate (TE)/week. Forty-three eugonadal men, 19-40 yr, were randomized to 1 of 4 groups: Group I, placebo, no exercise; Group II, TE, no exercise; Group III, placebo, exercise; Group IV, TE plus exercise. Exercise consisted of thrice weekly strength training sessions.

The Multi-Dimensional Anger Inventory (MAI), which includes 5 different dimensions of anger (inward anger, outward anger, anger arousal, hostile outlook, and anger eliciting situations), and a Mood Inventory (MI), which includes items related to mood and behavior, were administered to subjects before, during, and after the 10 week intervention. The subject’s significant other (spouse, live-in partner, or parent) also answered the same questions about the subject’s mood and behavior (Observer Mood Inventory, OMI).

No differences were observed between exercising and nonexercising and between placebo and TE treated subjects for any of the 5 subdomains of MAI. Overall there were no significant changes in MI or OMI during the treatment period in any group.

Note - this study used 600mg of testosterone per week. This is a dosage used by bodybuilders

I can find more studies in this manner.
 
Bone14 said:
There is absolutely no reliable evidence that testosterone causes “’roid rage” or any type of violent, aggressive or uncontrollable behavior. No violence, aggression or unpredictable behavior has been seen in studies where men were administered testosterone, even at extremely high doses. In fact, the opposite appears to be true; many men with low T describe being more irritable, or having a short fuse, and this often improves with normalization of testosterone levels.
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In reference to the above post and the dated studys... Serotonin is indeed correct when he states elevated testosterone can disrupt DHT and estrogen balance, this can correlate to aggression in some people... I've previously posted comprehensive studys showing links to aggressive behaviour due to androgen:estrogen ratio being out of whack..
19-nors show a greater effect on aggression in some people...

We've had this debate before, the general consensus is, if you're an arsehole without AAS, you are more likely to be a bigger arsehole on AAS....!!!
 
^^^ Exactly as I've said before - AAS don't turn normal people into arseholes; they turn arseholes into bigger arseholes :P

That being said, Tren shortens my fuse a little. I don't get aggressive though, that's just not in my nature; I do however get very irritable and grumpy haha
 
Ever since starting hormones my dreams have become more violent and vivid compared to before as well. They're never nightmares as I'm the instigator every time lol.
 
Testosterone does cause aggression it is a fact, maybe not in everybody but it is a fact.
 
This is the exact reason alot of people in society blame steroids for many other issues. I think its good to see someone here asking this question, because it shows he's not being an ass, he's genuinely considering that it "might" have something to do with his issue when it does not. And alot of American's think this way because they are loaded with propaganda that weed or steroids is horrific when both can be used safely.

Oxandrolone aka Anavar is so mild and very minimally suppressive to say the least, so you would not have been even close to shut down to begin with, not to mention your natural HPTA would be recovered at latest within 6-12 months.

Alcohol and drugs have various effects such as aggression, anger and violence in certain people. Its a fact. If you have an issue with alcohol, then I would steer clear of it completely.

In regards to AAS, I'm personally more calm on pure test..Im calm to begin with, but it mellows me out. If I use dbol or tren, Im ready to beat the shit out of someone within a seconds notice. So I never use either of those because I do know that I do not respond well mood wise and it's not worth it. HALO is another big oral drug people have aggression issues with, as well as Epistane the PH.
 
I can concur with Wesley's point regarding feeling calmer on test. The confidence it brings doesn't become aggression unless you're already a cockhead - personally it just makes you care less. Why would I want to be in a fight when I already feel like I'm the motherfucking MAN :D hahaha
 
Just like alcohol doesn't make you a cockhead. I get stubborn, and angry if someone tries to cut of my supply of alcohol but thats it. The regret is too much for me, which is why I stopped. I doubt you can drink in moderation either. Stop drinking, or further your reputation as a cunt.
 
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