(stacker 2 [caffeine, germanium, yerba mate, others] 412mg) - inexperienced - bleh

[Expansion420]

(CAFFEINE + HERBAL ALKALOIDS / 412mg) - new to this stuff - bleh

INTRODUCTION​

Decided to try something I knew from the get-go would be relatively disappointing. Herbal caffeine supplement. Why not experiment?

As you can see, the pills (each) contained a relatively modest dose of caffeine and caffeine bearing organic alkaloids, amongst other ingredients whose effects were researched before ingestion.

SUBJECTS​

R- 150LB MALE, (experienced with stimulants, hallucinogens, opiates, benzodiazapines, and dissociatives)
I- 155LB MALE, (experienced with stimulants, hallucinogens, opiates, benzodiazapines, sedatives, tranquilizers, CNS depressants)

SETTING​

Controlled environment in my room for the entirety. Qualitative comments and a psychoactive/physical dose response scatter plot graph were assembled through the duration of the experience.

EXAMPLE A​

This is our response to the substance, physically, in relation to the attached side effects legend, and psychoactively, in relation to the understood "Shulgin Scale" (though looking at the graph and reflecting on the experience, I would say my highest rating of a 0.9 was even generous).

EXAMPLE B​

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This is a comparative analysis of R and I's heart rate (BPM) throughout the duration of the experience. BPM was recorded ever thirty minutes for a total of seven hours.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS​

Throughout the experience, R and I each took notes as to any physical/mental effects that were to be noted. The following has not been altered in any way:

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[td]MY RESPONSES [/td]
[td]R's RESPONSES[/td]
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[td]7:40Headache, alertness, mild stimulation.[/td]
[td]7:40Light headed, alert, motivation to move.[/td]
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[td]7:54Alert, mild trembling, time lag.[/td]
[td]7:54Clear vision, sinus relief.[/td]
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[td]8:00Postural hypotension, tinnitus, increased BPM[/td]
[td]8:00Sweating, memory lag, increased BPM[/td]
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[td]8:05Spacey, fidgety, feeling loose, need to move.[/td]
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[td]8:30Decreased BPM, angst, focus.[/td]
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[td]8:40Agitation, nystagmus.[/td]
[td]8:40Agitation.[/td]
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[td]8:45Ataxia, dysphoria.[/td]
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[td]9:05Lethargy, depression, chest pain, decreased BPM.[/td]
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[td]9:10Nausea, maintenance of attentiveness.[/td]
[td]9:10Drowsiness, lethargy, relaxation.[/td]
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[td]9:15Sweating, shallow breathing.[/td]
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[td]9:20Clammy hands, tremors.[/td]
[td]9:20Sensitivity to light.[/td]
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[td]9:30Heart palpitations, mild bruxism, general discomfort.[/td]
[td]9:30Bradycardia is observed (heart rate falling at a resting rate below 60BPM). *[Highly fortified breakfast cereal and water administered in an effort to oxygenate red blood cells].[/td]
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[td]9:35*[Oral administration of 25mg meclizine, 400mg ibuprofen, and fortified breakfast cereal+water.][/td]
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[td]9:42Strong dysphoria, sweating, vertigo.[/td]
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[td]9:55Blurred vision, less nauseous.[/td]
[td]9:55Vertigo, fatigue.[/td]
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[td]10:00BPM restored to normal. Feeling generally optimistic.[/td]
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[td]10:15:Alert. Relaxed. Energized (weed?). Blood is flowing, I can feel it.[/td]
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[td]10:20I am calm. I feel pleasant. Fractal art is beautiful and Papadosio is excellent .[/td]
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[td]10:30Feeling happier and healthier. Weed is very nice.[/td]
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[td]10:35Tinnitus[/td]
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[td]10:50I feel great! Music appreciation and clear head. Floaty.[/td]
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[td]11:00Increased BPM, fatigued.[/td]
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[td]11:20General sense of alertness/upliftedness. Analgesia observed.[/td]
[td]11:20Analgesia and sedation from cannabis, but overall head-space is uplifted and stimulated.[/td]
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[td]11:40Palpitations observed. Feeling draggy up; like mixed with the weed this experience is like speed balling on a very, very mild scale. They seem to want to cancel eachother out, but stimulation remains.[/td]
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[td]12:05Dehydrated. Feeling lethargic again.[/td]
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[td]12:15Ate more enriched cereal and drank more water. I needed it. I feel less fatigued. Minor tightness in the chest.[/td]
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[td]12:50Basically back to baseline. Very little going on.[/td]
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[td]1:00*sublingual administration of 0.5mg clonazepam[/td]
[td]1:00*sublingual administration of 0.5mg clonazepam[/td]
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[td]1:50Baseline. [/td]
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CONCLUSION
This was in essence an intentional caffeine overdose. Overall there would be one world to describe the experience. Boring. More side effects than mental stimulation. Waste of packaging. Nobody needs these. Do not eat caffeine in high doses for stimulation. It is nasty to the bodu in large amounts. Amphetamines work much better.​

Thoughts/comments/questions/feedback always welcome!
Stay safe

 

[johannes kreisler]

as you are capable of writing profound papers about a caffeine overdose I hereby advice you to take a drug like methoxetamine or dmt! (->instant nobel prize) :D

 

[Expansion420]

as you are capable of writing profound papers about a caffeine overdose I hereby advice you to take a drug like methoxetamine or dmt! (->instant nobel prize) :D

Heh, this was about a 0.002 on the level of recreation I've experienced.
I have had literally countless (over one hundred)DMT breakthroughs and I have used Ketamine a few dozen times.

Haven't tried MXE yet.

The purpose of this report was to help spread harm reduction information. To show that no children, you can NOT get 'high' or anything else from this, and here is my in-vitro analysis to prove it.
I am trying to spread a message of accuracy and information. Not "haha i got high on these pills lol"

Stay safe
-Chris

 

[lcrlover]

I don't like the list of reasons to not take these,
seems like everything under the sun is on there

 

[Expansion420]

I don't like the list of reasons to not take these,
seems like everything under the sun is on there

Most of the listed contraindications are printed for liability purposes.