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homeydontplaythat

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i have to take a hair follicle test so i cant use the wicked mendocino county grown weed or bubble hash i have....yeah frustrating. i cant find any spice either. i dont really want to go into nyc, but im not sure if they would even have it. so maybe it is a local thing. anyway, im not even sure what my question is. just frustrated.
 
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ok, so it is available in nyc. im not asking for any sources blah blah. guess im just pissed that i spent 10 bucks on some herbal blend that does NOT do anything. wish i could just take this test and get it over with so i could order some phenazepam and smoke some weed.

i did have a drug dream last night though. i am a recovering heroin addict and it scared the shit out of me that i was dreaming about copping dope in the city i lived in. it was too real. i havent been thinking about dope at all lately but something is at work inside my brain....something wicked is bubbling up to the surface. i take my suboxone every day but i would like to actually catch a buzz now and then. that doesnt mean H, but i know that if i try other drugs that i dont really enjoy i will ALWAYS desire and possibly go back to what i DO enjoy. for me that is heroin and benzodiazapines.

so i figure ill get some phenazepam, do volumetric measurements and use it with some thc. i refuse to start using heroin again.
 
dude. wtf? Go to CD social for this shit, lol.

@ your second, more understandable post... Try TDS for addiction support, they are very helpful there. A lot of recovering people have dope dreams. Hell, I've never used a lot of drugs I dream about coppin'.
 
weekend addiction said:
I would rather be sober than smoke that shit. You will say the same after trying it.
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I enjoy smoking spice..especially when I;ve had to do UA's

Besides that it tastes like shit compared to weed, I think it;s awesome. It feel basically the same as weed, I actually get a little higher but more short lived.

All in all, I think it's awesome and if a gram of jwh-018 lasts you FOREVER for what it costs.

But even goin into nyc and buyin the 3g packs of spice is pretty damn cheap, legal, and super easy to find.

if I couldnt smoke weed becuase of the law or something I would 100% switch to jwh018 in a HEARTBEAT. shits basically the same high IMO and id much rather get high off that then get high off nothing. Look around at some jwh-018 threads and you will see...a LOT of people enjoy it. Just don't overdue it becuase unlike weed, you can smoke "too" much.


Also, you said you are pissed becuase you spent 10 and got ripped.

Well if you go into nyc go to ANY smoke shop around 9th st path, and don't buy ANYTHING except K2 brand. Shop around for a few mins becuase you can get some good deals.

I smoke weed atleats 2 blunts a day. When I used the k2 for about 2 weeks (becuase I had some legal trouble) I bought K2 summit and blonde and some other on with a c.

I would roll blunts with it, about the same size as I would with weed. Each blunt was 2 smoking sessions. Any time I smoked a whole blunt straight off the bat I was too high, but half a .5g blunt seemed to be perfect for these k2 blends. They were all around the same potency.

Now I am back to good old haze. :)
 
stuckinaloop said:
I enjoy smoking spice..especially when I;ve had to do UA's

Besides that it tastes like shit compared to weed, I think it;s awesome. It feel basically the same as weed, I actually get a little higher but more short lived.

All in all, I think it's awesome and if a gram of jwh-018 lasts you FOREVER for what it costs.

but even goin into nyc and buyin the 3g packs of spice is pretty damn cheap, legal, and super easy to find.

if I couldnt smoke weed becuase of the law or something I would 100% switch to jwh018 in a HEARTBEAT. shits basically the same high IMO and id much rather get high off that then get high off nothing
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I've tried it and was unimpressed but to each his own. Most of the people I have heard say positive things about it sound like they don't know what they are talking about. You seem like a pretty smart dude though so I'll take your word for it. I wish Erowid would start a JWH section. I feel as if there needs to be more reliable info about JWH out there.
 
Unfortunately there isn't reliable info about JWH because it is a research chemical that hasn't been tested very well on any human subjects. We are the guinea-pigs here on these RCs.

Everyone should know that if they are ingesting any RC -- they are UNTESTED so we don't know of any long-term effects yet, or how carcinogenic it may be. Erowid usually has drugs which have had more extensive research. They also update pretty slowly ;P
 
weekend addiction said:
I've tried it and was unimpressed but to each his own. Most of the people I have heard say positive things about it sound like they don't know what they are talking about. You seem like a pretty smart dude though so I'll take your word for it. I wish Erowid would start a JWH section. I feel as if there needs to be more reliable info about JWH out there.
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Well I will tell you right now that I just recently opened my mind and tried this JWH shit when I ran into some legal shit and didn't wanna have any weed burning in my apartment out of fear that cops could be coming lol.

Whenever I heard of these "fake or immitation weeds" I basically shrugged it off as bull shit. Why would anyone want to somke that shit..why not just get weed.

After trying some K2 summit my mind changed. I got fucking HIGH, and like I said, I regularly smoke high grade weed so mytolerance is up there. Anyway, I got HIGH, very fuckin high, not like placebo shit, like eyes red as shit and munchies..the usual high. For the 2 weeks I used it, it was a perfect substitute for weed, honestly the two highs are very similar.

Now some friends have loved it, but 1 of my friends had some bad anxiety when he smoked it.

Honestly though, the plant matter you smoke doesnt mean shit, it's the active ingredient (usually jwh-018) that gets you high.

You can obviously buy this pure and get the same effects (and better your health too) but you need an accurate scale that can weigh out around 5mg (1 dose). So you can imagine 1 gram (1000mg) would last you a while dosing around 5mg a dose.

Beleive me though, the shit isnt smoke and mirrors, you really get high. I persoanlly like weed better, its more predictable ,sometimes I was TOO high with the k2 shit. I would be driving smoking a blunt of it and be like damn I am way to high almost had to pull over once lol
 
chainer3k said:
Unfortunately there isn't reliable info about JWH because it is a research chemical that hasn't been tested very well on any human subjects. We are the guinea-pigs here on these RCs.

Everyone should know that if they are ingesting any RC -- they are UNTESTED so we don't know of any long-term effects yet, or how carcinogenic it may be. Erowid usually has drugs which have had more extensive research. They also update pretty slowly ;P
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You are def right about that, which is the MAIN reason I am back to smoking regular weed.

Honestly, if I knew jwh-018 had the same amount of research etc.. and wasn't detrimental to your health, I would probably switch over permanently to it.

On a side note, if you are smoking pure jwh the amount smoked each dose is SO minimal compared to say..smoking a joint. It's barely like a 1/1000th the amount of smoke aha
 
chainer3k said:
Unfortunately there isn't reliable info about JWH because it is a research chemical that hasn't been tested very well on any human subjects. We are the guinea-pigs here on these RCs.

Everyone should know that if they are ingesting any RC -- they are UNTESTED so we don't know of any long-term effects yet, or how carcinogenic it may be. Erowid usually has drugs which have had more extensive research. They also update pretty slowly ;P
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I know medical info isn't available. But some well-written first hand accounts would be interesting.

EDIT: And to the other poster I know its not bullshit. I tried the stuff and was definitely high as balls. Just unpleasantly so.
 
@weekend addiction, I can feel you there (about being high as balls..unpleasantly so.) There was a few times I was driving around or doing wahtever and wasn't really paying attentioned and ended up smoking the whole blunt before I knew it was done. I experienced a few bouts of anxiety and stuff, but as long as I cut my self off and didn't overdue it, I came to enjoy the high.

Unless I have to get drug tested or something, I am probably going to stick with my trusty old weed. I like being able to smoke a blunt for my whole 30 min drive to work and not be totally buggin out when I get there.

On another note though, it's also nice to be able to basically smoke a blunt up until the door and walk rith in work not smelling ANYTHING AT ALL like weed (when you smoke the spice).

It's a trade off ;)
 
yeah, i have to take a hair follicle test, so spice/k2/jwh would be ideal. i may be going into the city soon anyway. its like 25 bucks for a g, right?
 
I don't think we are allowed to discuss prices but that is kind of a rip. if you shop around you will find 3gram packets for an extra 5 or ten bucks on top of your "g" price.

don't go to the BIGGEST head shops, go to the little shitty lookin ones that don;t have shit, they seem to have teh cheapest k2 in my experiences. for the price you quoted a g, i've gotten 3g
s of k2 summt for 5 bucks xtra
 
price Qs on RCs aren't allowed, nor are ze drug test questions... but a simple google search can help you with info on both, they are legal so the info is readily available, just BL isn't the place to look.
 
weekend addiction said:
I know medical info isn't available. But some well-written first hand accounts would be interesting.

EDIT: And to the other poster I know its not bullshit. I tried the stuff and was definitely high as balls. Just unpleasantly so.
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So you go around saying it's a very unpleasant high because you smoked too much and got sick? You say " Most of the people I have heard say positive things about it sound like they don't know what they are talking about."

But in reality they knew what they were dealing with and you just smoked until you got sick. If anyone doesn't know what they're talking about, it's you.
 
bluehairman said:
So you go around saying it's a very unpleasant high because you smoked too much and got sick? You say " Most of the people I have heard say positive things about it sound like they don't know what they are talking about."

But in reality they knew what they were dealing with and you just smoked until you got sick. If anyone doesn't know what they're talking about, it's you.
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I have tried smoking small amounts as well several times. The only reason I smoked too much in the first place was because small amounts suck balls. I get a mild high but its unpleasant as well. Zero euphoria. This stuff is unpleasant at every dose level for me. Everyone I have talked to has said its a terrible high except a couple of idiots (who only smoke it cause they get tested)...so I try to recommend against it. Maybe my last post wasn't very clear. And it made my throat hurt like HELL. That alone is enough for me to recommend against it The taste is terrible. Its a shit drug IMO. If it were good everybody would be doing it.

EDIT: I threw the stuff away because it was so bad I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy.
 
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weekend addiction said:
I have tried smoking small amounts as well several times. The only reason I smoked too much in the first place was because small amounts suck balls. I get a mild high but its unpleasant as well. Zero euphoria. This stuff is unpleasant at every dose level for me. Everyone I have talked to has said its a terrible high except a couple of idiots (who only smoke it cause they get tested)...so I try to recommend against it. Maybe my last post wasn't very clear. And it made my throat hurt like HELL. That alone is enough for me to recommend against it The taste is terrible. Its a shit drug IMO. If it were good everybody would be doing it.

EDIT: I threw the stuff away because it was so bad I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy.
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Lol it was so bad you wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy? You've tried the stuff probably once maybe twice?...some random brand probably some bull shit.. Okay you've made your point (I guess) no need to keep bashing and bashing jwh. If you like weed better, smoke weed.

To each their own but try jwh-018 for your self..don't let this dude ruin it for you. It is a VERY similar high to weed. If you buy some bull shit blend noones ever heard of you might end up smoking some bad tasting shit that doesnt do anything. But I ensure you, if you don't wanna buy pure jwh-xxx buy a respected brand..like k2 summit, and you will DEFINITELY get high.

I didn't beleive it my self until I got a bag...and the shit was even slightly more potent then weed, a half of a blunt and I was GOOD. I usually smoke a whole blunt with weed.

i dunno what the hell he smoked..probably some bull shit

The dose of jwh-018 is so small..like 5-10mg is such a small pile of powder, its a tiny little puff of smoke, which by no means burns your throat..it hardly even feels like theres anything in your lungs.

Here is about 50 pages of people with nothing but good things to say about it
http://forums.joerogan.net/showthread.php?t=97844

bluehairman said:
So you go around saying it's a very unpleasant high because you smoked too much and got sick? You say " Most of the people I have heard say positive things about it sound like they don't know what they are talking about."

But in reality they knew what they were dealing with and you just smoked until you got sick. If anyone doesn't know what they're talking about, it's you.
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i agree
 
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