"Speed Demons" - How do you deal with them?

Horrux

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Had an encounter with a Speed Demon recently. It's always trying to make me believe that *I* want to do lotsa speed, and today. And I have some staring me in the face as I write this. I have never been addicted to anything, and this really looks like the germinating seed of addiction here.

One thing that makes things worse is that I rarely sleep and I am constantly exhausted, which is the initial reason to do speed in the first place. It lets me function. But now, I'm having thoughts about speed every day and I haven't even had any for about 2 weeks.

So meth peeps, how do YOU deal with your speed demons?
 
I just booted my meth with morphine and/or heroin.... and that's just because I could get away with it due to being some sort of high-powered mutant when it comes to tolerances.

I highly suggest that you don't follow suit, or do any more meth for that matter.

my suggestion? don't become a tweaker.

I've stayed awake just as easily and for as long on nothing but caffeine, nicotine, and boredom.
 
First stop giving it an external status, like its not you that has the urge to use. Then just say fuck it so be there the urge but I dont need to follow it.
 
id agree with not giving it an external status thats pretty important.

If your not a full blown tweaker now you oughta stop now. At least tweak his no serious physical withdrawls but the last 2 years of tweak really fucked my head up more than anything. Starts out fun but once you aint slept for 10 days shit gets pretty fucking whack.

eat/drink/exercise and sleep and you oughta be okay.
Any experimentation with sleeping aids?
 
I only used meth for little over 3-4 months, albeit very heavily with very pure product.

yet I still get more random cravings for that shit, than for my normal DOC.

amps are just bad all around. I'm still rather disgusted with myself for even trying it. when you've crawled around grazing the carpet for hours, trying to find lost shards..... that's pretty low.

although..... it was pretty funny to swipe my hand across a ceiling before leaving, because I knew what would happen :\
 
amps are just bad all around. I'm still rather disgusted with myself for even trying it. when you've crawled around grazing the carpet for hours, trying to find lost shards..... that's pretty low.

LOL at the end of my time tweaking i couldnt even get off of the carpet i would literally look for lost shards for 8 hours at a time. My girlfriend hated me for introducing her to the carpet...(said i ruined meth for her and we used daily for like 9 months together lol)
she thought i was playing a game when she walked in my room (spun as fuck) and i was looking for shards on the ground... from that day on neither of us could do meth without looking at the carpet the entire rest of the high.

knowning if i copped some meth and went to get high i would simply search the carpet for shards actually really dettered me from relapsing in my early days of sobriety hahah
 
First stop giving it an external status, like its not you that has the urge to use. Then just say fuck it so be there the urge but I dont need to follow it.

It's not me. *I* don't want to take meth. I refuse to crave it. But thoughts come to me, suggesting how good it would be and how much fun and that I really want to do more meth today.

Now. I am not insane. I don't want to use meth, and there are thoughts in my mind, FOREIGN thoughts that say I do. They are external. Isn't that why they are called speed demons?
 
The reason why speed demons are so damn sketchy is cuz they feel external, u need to come to realize its completely internal. Just has to do with the addictive nature of meth. Its so addicting even if your cravings arent coming from conscious thought you can crave form unconscious feelings manifested as demons.

resist the demons at all cost because the longer u go the less the demons talk.
 
The reason why speed demons are so damn sketchy is cuz they feel external, u need to come to realize its completely internal. Just has to do with the addictive nature of meth. Its so addicting even if your cravings arent coming from conscious thought you can crave form unconscious feelings manifested as demons.

resist the demons at all cost because the longer u go the less the demons talk.

Yes, I noticed that. And that's good. Something else I'm noticing is, it seems like with every further use, even a couple weeks apart, the comedown is worse. Anyone else experience that? I mean, I thought alcohol was a shitty drug coz it gives a so-so buzz and the day after can be awful, but meth is also pretty hard on ya... :!
 
The reason why speed demons are so damn sketchy is cuz they feel external, u need to come to realize its completely internal. Just has to do with the addictive nature of meth. Its so addicting even if your cravings arent coming from conscious thought you can crave form unconscious feelings manifested as demons.

resist the demons at all cost because the longer u go the less the demons talk.

^^ This

yeh can use the same dopamine reward-system that cravings originate from, against them.

when a jones hits.... do something else that is rewarding, isn't triggering, and has nothing to do with drugs.
music is often too triggering, so a way I've heard of it done, is to get oneself off every time a drug craving popped up. lol.
that kind of thing naturally ups the depleted endorphins/dopamine which are at the root of drug cravings. once you've reestablished the natural reward-cycle, the jones will disappear. usually.
Meth is particularly insidious.... and I'd bet that's in large part a result of it's high potency, especially so because of the part of the brain it focuses on.
 
Speed demons annoy me, i was driving along doing the speed limit the other day and low and behold here comes a speed demon flying past me, he came so close to my car i could touch it.

then a little later down the road he was pulled over by highway patrol, i was glad..hope he got an expensive ticket.
 
It's not me. *I* don't want to take meth. I refuse to crave it. But thoughts come to me, suggesting how good it would be and how much fun and that I really want to do more meth today.

Now. I am not insane. I don't want to use meth, and there are thoughts in my mind, FOREIGN thoughts that say I do. They are external. Isn't that why they are called speed demons?

Please stop this "speed demon" bullshit now, it ain't helping you. Have you been in AA/NA/12step brainwashing meetings? They are brainwashing you to believe that you are helpless and have no control over yourself. Thats huge bullshit. It's all up in you're head. Addiction is behavior control problem and to get rid of it you have to learn to control you're actions, behaving, thoughts and yourself. It's time to get past over this "drug victim" propaganda, it ain't helping anyone, thats why there is so much relapses, because you are taught to think that you are victim and what you can do when you are victim?

Every time you say there is this demon that want me make to do it, you give it huge power. How can you have control over things that are not in you? You can't, and every time you think that it gets more power to manifest. You have to realize that it's in you, give it love and accept it, because you can not love and accept yourself if you don't accept every part in you.

There are lots of behavior therapy that works with addictions much more successfully than any these victim propagandas. You can start you're own by meditation.
 
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Please stop this "speed demon" bullshit now, it ain't helping you. Have you been in AA/NA/12step brainwashing meetings? They are brainwashing you to believe that you are helpless and have no control over yourself. Thats huge bullshit. It's all up in you're head. Addiction is behavior control problem and to get rid of it you have to learn to control you're actions, behaving, thoughts and yourself. It's time to get past over this "drug victim" propaganda, it ain't helping anyone, thats why there is so much relapses, because you are taught to think that you are victim and what you can do when you are victim?

Every time you say there is this demon that want me make to do it, you give it huge power. How can you have control over things that are not in you? You can't, and every time you think that it gets more power to manifest. You have to realize that it's in you, give it love and accept it, because you can not love and accept yourself if you don't accept every part in you.

There are lots of behavior therapy that works with addictions much more successfully than any these victim propagandas. You can start you're own by meditation.
You will be surprised but I mostly agree, on the victim and brainwashing parts anyway. I am not addicted to meth or to anything else for that matter, I simply REFUSE to get addicted to anything. And if I get thoughts of "oooooh speeeeed... Would be sooooooo gooooooood right now" I tell them to fuck the hell off and it works.

You guys never do this with annoying thoughts? Or songs that "won't go away"? What I mean is, based on extremely sober zazen sesshin (zen meditation weekends) and other experiences, I have very reluctantly come to the conclusion, and I kid you not that I am a smart and very balanced person, that thoughts in general are of a telepathic nature. Now in many spiritual walks of life, the "cosmic self" or "higher self" or "ethereal self" or even "the holy spirit" in christian faiths, is said to continuously attempt to communicate with us.

I find that extreme genius inspiration (I've had those) comes when the mind is EXTREMELY QUIET and that a mind with much activity in it will more often than not, be filled with useless garbage. That is, in any case, my observation of myself and with some friends, most of whom never do any drugs at all.

Now I ask you, if our minds are filled with useless "thoughts", why don't we stop? BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY CONTROL OUR MINDS. We can keep our bodies immobile, but not our minds? If we don't control our minds who controls it? Realize for a second HOW MUCH POWER we give "our thoughts" over ourselves in thinking that they are inherently ours. And yet, since we can't control our thoughts nearly as easily as we can control our bodies, it begs the question why should something that is out of our control dominate our persons and our lives? Such is not the way to happiness.

I have discovered, and you can test this yourselves, that by seeing thoughts as telepathic communications, mostly from the garbage zone of the plane of thought, the astral plane, we can make them stop. Truly. Reply to them "BE SILENT! I ORDER YOU TO STOP COMMUNICATING WITH ME! I AM CLOSING THE DOOR TO YOUR COMMUNICATIONS!", ideally out loud and with as much might and willpower as you can muster, and whatever thought you have will stop.

Now if seeing thoughts as internal makes them mostly uncontrollable, and seeing them as external and telepathic makes them very controllable, then I believe that the way to self-control, happiness and life-mastery lies in seeing thought as one big telepathic experience, one that can be shut off if one puts enough will and determination into it... And from the void of that great silence will come the subtlest of all impulses, pure, authentic, infinitely unique, infinitely intelligent, purely loving, of your cosmic self, whose communication is so pure and subtle that garbage thoughts completely smother it.

This explains mediumnity, telepathy among humans, and many people who encounter non-physical entities during trips, as well as age-old legends of "angels and demons". I don't have a religion, yet there is too much in old texts about non-physical beings, for us to dismiss them entirely without any consideration whatsoever. Yes, our world wants us to be fully rational and materialistic, but where is that taking us? Certainly, it is taking this world into a chaotic, dangerous direction...

Perhaps, the "internal nature of thought" is something that would deserve being revisited. Are you closed-minded? Are you brainwashed into believing that only that which can be observed with the 5 senses can be real and that anything else CANNOT be real?
 
Yo forreal, I think the meth might be getting to your mind or something. Our thoughts and bodies aren't separate. The brain controls your bodies movements and the way you think. Not some "telepathic entity".
 
Yo forreal, I think the meth might be getting to your mind or something. Our thoughts and bodies aren't separate. The brain controls your bodies movements and the way you think. Not some "telepathic entity".

Proof, please?
 
No well mine WERE (as in past tense) hallucinations mixed with thoughts. I don't get them anymore now however they stopped like 5 years ago.

When they first started happening I honestly had no idea they were hallucinations. I thought I had merely lost control of my own thoughts. After a while it developed into full blown hallucinations on all of my 5 senses. But it started off as auditory. What happens first is your mind will just race all day long, and you start thinking crazy/random shit. I'd think people were after me, the cops were coming, I was going to die, but that was merely paranoia at that point.
Once I started hearing voices that WEREN'T my own voice, demons, devils, w/e you wanna call it, thats when I took to some serious therapy and was enlightened about the whole psychosis. I didn't stop using at that point, and went hard for another year, and the hallucinations got worse and worse and spread to other senses. It was mainly visual/auditory in the begining, but towards the end it was everything.

Its almost impossible to help you on here though which kind of sucks. Because I can tell you for the first 6 months or so I had NO IDEA I was having hallucinations. It wasn't till they progressed and things got worse, that I started to realize what was happening to my brain.

I have some SERIOUS fucking empathy for you bro, because its not till your clean for a while and your brain starts to heal, where you actually realize how bad it is. I'm not saying this to scare you, I'm saying so you can hopefully decide to get off crystal for good. I was manufacturing my own (unlimited supply) which is why my particular condition got bad as quickly as it did.
 
Would you be able to give more details about your level of speed use?

I think you have some interesting insights into the nature of thoughts, similar to Buddhism which you say you have practiced. If we pay attention to the constant stream that flows through our mind, we can see how much of it is bullshit/repetitive/inaccurate/automatic/etc. I think the ability to observe this stream of thought without getting caught up in it, as well as the ability to direct our thoughts into the direction that we want them to go, are things that the majority of people are unable to do. We're usually caught in a series of automatic reactions and thought patterns that end up determining our behaviour.

I don't know anything about you, or how much speed you use, but after reading your post I did not have the impression you were in some sort of psychosis or hallucinating...
 
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